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prasen82 Rookie

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Rohit

Dhawan

Kohli

Dhoni  & Rayudu/ {Gill - outside chance}

Jadhav & Pant

Karthik

Pandya

Jadeja/ Vijay shankar

Kuldeep & chahal

Shami & Bhuvi

Bumrah

 

Pant will defly make squad due to x factor .

 

This is a 17 member squad. 2 out of this extra 4 would make it

 

Vijay Shankar/ jadeja -- give VS the edge here

 

Rayudu/ Gill - Thinking gill will get chances in NZ series. There is no backup for top 4 . So Gill/Rayudu will fight for a place. I am going to give Gill upside here.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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speedheat Enthusiast

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31 minutes ago, sandeep said:

id you watch them bowl side by side today with the new ball?

Absolutely! This is the best I have seen shami bowl after his come back.

Don't forget he is still making his comeback,  never was given consistent run like this post injury.

Bhuvi is also good and one such bowler with immaculate control is needed in Odis but if the choice is inevitable I would pick shami coz of his wicket taking abilities. Loi cricket is all about taking wickets tbh.

35 minutes ago, sandeep said:

Why do you think Zaheer Khan says that if Shami plays in ODI, his quota has to be finished before the 35th over?

He also once said indian bowlers can't bowl fast. 

Nevertheless, a fully fit shami can do much more damage within those 35 overs than bhuvi and his death bowling skills are not as bad.

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sandeep Grand Master

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1 minute ago, speedheat said:

Absolutely! This is the best I have seen shami bowl after his come back.

Don't forget he is still making his comeback,  never was given consistent run like this post injury.

Bhuvi is also good and one such bowler with immaculate control is needed in Odis but if the choice is inevitable I would pick shami coz of his wicket taking abilities. Loi cricket is all about taking wickets tbh.

He also once said indian bowlers can't bowl fast. 

Nevertheless, a fully fit shami can do much more damage within those 35 overs than bhuvi and his death bowling skills are not as bad.

Both Bhuvi and Shami played all 3 ODIs right? Who took more wickets?  Perception != Reality.  "speedheat" says it all.

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zen Grand Master

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7 minutes ago, speedheat said:

Absolutely! This is the best I have seen shami bowl after his come back.

Don't forget he is still making his comeback,  never was given consistent run like this post injury.

Bhuvi is also good and one such bowler with immaculate control is needed in Odis but if the choice is inevitable I would pick shami coz of his wicket taking abilities. Loi cricket is all about taking wickets tbh.

He also once said indian bowlers can't bowl fast. 

Nevertheless, a fully fit shami can do much more damage within those 35 overs than bhuvi and his death bowling skills are not as bad.

Shami, the pace bowler :dance:  .... I would not judge trundlers like Bhuvi, Praveen Kumar, etc., based on how they bowl in bowler friendly conditions. On batting friendly pitches, a firing Shami is likely to be more useful  

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speedheat Enthusiast

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9 minutes ago, zen said:

Shami, the pace bowler :dance:  .... I would not judge trundlers like Bhuvi, Praveen Kumar, etc., based on how they bowl in bowler friendly conditions. On batting friendly pitches, a firing Shami is likely to be more useful  

Absolutely!lWe will never be a bowling powerhouse in odis unless we get rid of all those condition dependent trundlers or restrict them to maximum one per match. 

 

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1 minute ago, speedheat said:

Absolutely!lWe will never be a bowling powerhouse in odis unless we get rid of all those condition dependent trundlers or restrict them to maximum one. 

 

My issue with playing trundlers is that if one does well, flood gates automatically open for others .... then we will have Kaul, Chahar, etc., in the reckoning  :lol:  .... which is why I try not to support trundlers as much as possible 

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bendit100 Newbie

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I haven't seen Vijay Shanker bat or bowl...but I have been flirting with this team

 

1 Rohit

2 Dhawan

3 Virat

4 Shubman Gill

5 Dhoni

6 Jadhav

7 Pandya

8 Vijay Shanker

9 Chahal

10 Bhuvi/Shami

11 Bumrah

 

Gives us great batting depth till no 8.

In bowling we get 3 full time bowlers, 1 almost a full time bowler in Pandya and 2 part time bowlers.

So the 20 overs in the middle will be shared like Pandya 8, Jadhav 6 and Vijay Shanker 6.  This is only possible if the 3 part time bowlers keep it really tight. No loose or hit me deliveries. This combo is worth a try. 

I would have extra batting depth for atleast the knockout  games where our top 3 has a higher chance of failure and it will be upto Dhoni and middle order to stage a recovery with the balance 5 bats. 

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vijay50 Newbie

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We need 3 genuine pacers to have a chance to win WC  outside India  or atleast reach semifinals and beyond (e.g:2003 WC,2013 CT and 2015 WC). Play no more than 2 bits and pieces cricketer in playing 11.

 India must play the following for WC

1. Rohit

2. Dhawan

3. Kohli

4. Dhoni

5. Karthik/ Rayudu

6. Jadhav ( our suresh raina equivalent).

7. Bhuvneshwar

8. Shami

9. Bumrah

10. Kuldeep/ Chahal

11. Specialist bowler or Another batter ( if its weak) then followed by Pandya/ Jadeja.

 

Play Bhuvi as genuine allrounder who can bowl 10 overs and get 20 runs instead of Pandya as all rounder.

 

if Pandya plays he must play as 4 th seamer and not as 3 rd seamer.

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bendit100 Newbie

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In a pressure game if our top 3 get out early there is no way we can stage a recovery with Dhoni, Karthik and Jadhav.  We need more batting depth. The problem with Indian team is that they are playing great in round robin stage and even topping their group with dominant performances. 

But when under pressure in knockout stages, they suffer a mini collapse and get knocked out of the tournament. So having batting depth is critical for knockout stages.

 

Consider the pressure of a knockout game and further pressure of chasing a 300+ score. We are 50/3 at the end of 12 th over and asking rate is over 6.  Can our team handle this kind of scenario ?  Becoz we are definately going to face this situation somewhere in the business end of the tournament. If we can't handle this, then we will definitely not win the World Cup.

 

In World Cup 2015 we were chasing 327 against Australia in the semifinals and we could only get to 233. Australia went on to finals and win the World Cup against New Zealand. The reason we lost that game was becoz we played only 6 batsmen and 5 full time bowlers.

 

Again in Champions Trophy 2017 finals,  we had to chase 338 against Pakistan and we scored a grand total of 150. Btw Pakistan was playing 8 batsmen in that game.

 

If the objective is to just qualify for the knockout stages then 6 or 7 batsmen is ok but if we really want to win then we need 8 batsmen in the team becoz we are not going to need them in every game but we will definately need them for that one special game.

 

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motomaverick Newbie

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This should be the squad:

 

Kohli

Rohit

Dhawan

Gill

Dhoni

DK

Jadhav

Pant

Pandya

Bhuvneshwar

Bumrah

Shami

Jadeja

Kuldeep

Chahal

 

Covers all basis. 6 frontline batsmen (including Dhoni) with Pant as backup/aggressor. Jadeja as backup for Kuldeep and Chahal (Jaddu is a brilliant fielder so can be used as a substitute). And since Pandya will play all games we won't need more than the three front line fast bowlers. Please no more biryani Rayudu, he offers nothing.

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prasen82 Rookie

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9 hours ago, motomaverick said:

This should be the squad:

 

Kohli

Rohit

Dhawan

Gill

Dhoni

DK

Jadhav

Pant

Pandya

Bhuvneshwar

Bumrah

Shami

Jadeja

Kuldeep

Chahal

 

Covers all basis. 6 frontline batsmen (including Dhoni) with Pant as backup/aggressor. Jadeja as backup for Kuldeep and Chahal (Jaddu is a brilliant fielder so can be used as a substitute). And since Pandya will play all games we won't need more than the three front line fast bowlers. Please no more biryani Rayudu, he offers nothing.

Most likely the team. Only thing is Vijay Shankar could be a dark horse replacing pandya. 

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Tendulkar1996 Newbie

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Pacers- shami,bumrah,bhuvi 

Spinners -kuldeep,chahal

Allrounders-pandya,jadeja

Wktkeeper- dhoni,pant

 For me these 9 are lock..that leaves 6 spots open.3 of which are lock.

rohit,dhawan,kohli

kedar is also lock as 6th bowling option.

 

This leaves 2 slots for middle order /finisher and reserve opener.For me 

gill and karthik/rahul

 

Ultimately 15 man squad should be -

rohit

dhawan

kohli

gill

dhoni

kedar

pandya

kuldeep

chahal

bhuvi

bumrah

 

shami

pant

jadeja

karthik/rahul

 

To get to this team a few things need to happen...

1.gill needs to fire in whatever chances he gets

2.pandya must play

3.rayudu must flop

4.one of rahul or karthik must flop in remaining odis or ipl

5.pant must have good t20s and ipl

 

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