Ankit_sharma03 Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 Ever since his comeback he has played good but only good cameos , With jadhav n pandya already their we cant afford one more. Pandya offers bowling n fielding, jadhav offers bowling.......karthik has no other dept to contribute . I think his incredible shot range and small target left in last few overs help his game which is why he has been very success-full with cameos but never when team was under collapse. This also works gr8 in t20s as well but as the game gets longer he gets tested As an experienced player he is expected to control the innings but i dont remeber him doing it ever since his comback and the guy has good technique Didnt in England in test matches Didnt do it against SL in dharamshala Against eng in 3rd odi last yr velu, nevada, Laaloo and 2 others 5 Link to comment
flamy Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 This is over #45 player who came in at over 10. Not his game. So he gave for putting him in that position velu and Stan AF 2 Link to comment
Popular Post Gollum Posted January 31, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted January 31, 2019 He is strictly a T20 finisher, playing him in ODIs makes no sense. 90 ODIs ke baad avg 31.6 (despite 21 not outs), SR 73.8, zero hundreds... this guys won't fit in our 70s, 80s, 90s crap ODI teams. If Kohli expects to win a damn WC with guys like DK and Rayudu in the middle order, he needs medical assistance. velu, GolGappe, Stan AF and 9 others 2 2 8 Link to comment
Mosher Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 Fidget spinner doesn't have the mindset to play out so many overs. He is good for playing in the death overs or when you need 30-40 runs to win the game. speedheat, Suhaan, maniac and 1 other 4 Link to comment
ShoonyaSifar Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 Absolutely. Can't remember the last time he hit even a 50. Yes he's mostly batted at 5,6,7 still there have been some opportunities to at least score a 50. But never upto it, good enough for 20s and 30s nothing beyond. Keep him for the T20s where he still has some utility as that finisher Link to comment
test fan Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 Spot on .I don't know why India still include him ,should have long back discarded permanently .we need solid player who know how to build a inning in pressure situations like these but instead of this they play rakeless shot & got out, Just pathetic Link to comment
Temujin Khaghan Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 Superb opportunity for him or jadhav to make 50+ scores. A young MSD in this situation would have grinded a 75 (110) kind of innings. Wouldnt have converted this disaster into a win but surely would have elevated the team from "humiliation zone" Link to comment
ShoonyaSifar Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 5 minutes ago, Temujin Khaghan said: Superb opportunity for him or jadhav to make 50+ scores. A young MSD in this situation would have grinded a 75 (110) kind of innings. Wouldnt have converted this disaster into a win but surely would have elevated the team from "humiliation zone" Dhoni has had a grand total of 7-8 such knocks, almost in each innings outscored by some other batsman. Failed so many times in similar situations (check Tri series in Malaysia in 2006, 2007 WC and 2007 Eng ODIs) before he actually played the first real rescue innings of sorts (where we lost 3 wickets for less than 50 runs) in 2009 in WI. Adi BB 1 Link to comment
SK_IH Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 DK ideally should never have been part of the squad. He was rightfiully dropped after the Asia Cup and then suddenly he came back for the Aus-NZ tours. What improvement he made in that intervening period or was his selction made solely on basis of his T20 performances. WTF has gone here is difficult to fathom. Pant was discarded at the earliest. Gollum, sandsaims and Ankit_sharma03 3 Link to comment
rtmohanlal Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 Spot on ....A 31 avg:ing player with very low str: at the age of 34 still playing after 91 matches of mediocrity..... That too in a nation with a vast talent pool w.r.t batting!!!!!!!!!! Simply unbelievable and can't digest... BlueBee and GolGappe 1 1 Link to comment
Khota Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 7 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: Ever since his comeback he has played good but only good cameos , With jadhav n pandya already their we cant afford one more. Pandya offers bowling n fielding, jadhav offers bowling.......karthik has no other dept to contribute . I think his incredible shot range and small target left in last few overs help his game which is why he has been very success-full with cameos but never when team was under collapse. This also works gr8 in t20s as well but as the game gets longer he gets tested As an experienced player he is expected to control the innings but i dont remeber him doing it ever since his comback and the guy has good technique Didnt in England in test matches Didnt do it against SL in dharamshala Against eng in 3rd odi last yr Everyone and their brother screwed up but let us just pick on DK. Can you hate little less. The Dark Horse 1 Link to comment
Number Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 6 hours ago, rtmohanlal said: Spot on ....A 31 avg:ing player with very low str: at the age of 34 still playing after 91 matches of mediocrity..... That too in a nation with a vast talent pool w.r.t batting!!!!!!!!!! Simply unbelievable and can't digest... 6 hours ago, test fan said: Spot on .I don't know why India still include him ,should have long back discarded permanently .we need solid player who know how to build a inning in pressure situations like these but instead of this they play rakeless shot & got out, Just pathetic Him and Parthiv were never discarded as they were useful jokers to make MSD look undroppable. Jimmy Cliff 1 Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted January 31, 2019 Author Share Posted January 31, 2019 40 minutes ago, Khota said: Everyone and their brother screwed up but let us just pick on DK. Can you hate little less. everyone n their brother has done something, DK has nothing to show apart from cameos . Remind me when was the last time he played a big inning ....not cameos ? Not much to expect from an experienced player with a sound technique M also picking on rayudu Switchblade 1 Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 His average, strike rate didn't give us a clue? Selecting a guy just to play last 5 overs is criminal. SK_IH 1 Link to comment
SK_IH Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 50 minutes ago, Number said: Him and Parthiv were never discarded as they were useful jokers to make MSD look undroppable. Indian cricket is not a grand conspiracy to make Dhoni look good, c'mon you have gone over board here Real McCoy, flamy and Jimmy Cliff 3 Link to comment
Khota Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 10 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: everyone n their brother has done something, DK has nothing to show apart from cameos . Remind me when was the last time he played a big inning ....not cameos ? Not much to expect from an experienced player with a sound technique M also picking on rayudu DK has done plenty. Talk about your blond hair boy who has nothing to show for. Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted February 1, 2019 Author Share Posted February 1, 2019 7 hours ago, Khota said: DK has done plenty. Talk about your blond hair boy who has nothing to show for. blond hair boy played 70+ knocks in chennai last yr against, 70+ against Pak....90+ in SA and he is dynamite in field n bowls as well Now show me whats has dK has done apart from 30s cameos and he doesnt contribute anything Infact being an experienced player he never helped in collapses, blone boy isnt an experienced player yet played crunch knock in Sa where as the cameo king feet froze in england Link to comment
The Dark Horse Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 28 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: blond hair boy played 70+ knocks in chennai last yr against, 70+ against Pak....90+ in SA and he is dynamite in field n bowls as well Now show me whats has dK has done apart from 30s cameos and he doesnt contribute anything Infact being an experienced player he never helped in collapses, blone boy isnt an experienced player yet played crunch knock in Sa where as the cameo king feet froze in england Last 20 matches he played, the so called cameo King didn't bat in 3 matches, was not out in 8 innings, all those 8 matches India won. So out of 17 innings, he was not out more than 50% of the matches and guided the team home. Don't talk about tests in England, we're discussing ODIs here. Noone is claiming he's Gilchrist in tests. Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted February 1, 2019 Author Share Posted February 1, 2019 7 minutes ago, The Dark Horse said: Last 20 matches he played, the so called cameo King didn't bat in 3 matches, was not out in 8 innings, all those 8 matches India won. So out of 17 innings, he was not out more than 50% of the matches and guided the team home. n most were cameos which suited his game check the number of times he was there needed in crisis of collapse n he failed, ull find every time Point is can we afford a cameo player who doesnt offer any other skill- NO Im not taking anything away from his cameos - m calling him king of that which is good , thats a good thing in t20 not in odi most days 7 minutes ago, The Dark Horse said: Don't talk about tests in England, we're discussing ODIs here. Noone is claiming he's Gilchrist in tests. why its not that he lacked skills in test, he was selected in all formats and understand the patterns........needed huge number of runs he isnt the guy Small amount - he is the guy We can say same about jadhav n pandya but they offer more skills Link to comment
The Dark Horse Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 2 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: n most were cameos which suited his game check the number of times he was there needed in crisis of collapse n he failed, ull find every time Point is can we afford a cameo player who doesnt offer any other skill- NO Im not taking anything away from his cameos - m calling him king of that which is good , thats a good thing in t20 not in odi most days why its not that he lacked skills in test, he was selected in all formats and understand the patterns........needed huge number of runs he isnt the guy Small amount - he is the guy We can say same about jadhav n pandya but they offer more skills I agree he may not be in every match, but he is a must in the squad given what he has done. Point is - You gave three instances in which he didn't perform, I gave you several where he did. Link to comment
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