mancalledsting Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 Dhoni's credentials as a saviour in ICC tournaments, discuss: India vs West Indies, group game, 2007 World Cup: http://www.espncricinfo.com/series/8039/scorecard/247464/bangladesh-vs-india-8th-match-group-b-icc-world-cup-2006-07 India vs Sri Lanka, group game 2007 World Cup: http://www.espncricinfo.com/series/8039/scorecard/247476/india-vs-sri-lanka-20th-match-group-b-icc-world-cup-2006-07 India vs Pakistan, group game 2009 Champions Trophy: http://www.espncricinfo.com/series/8037/scorecard/415278/india-vs-pakistan-6th-match-group-a-icc-champions-trophy-2009-10 India vs Australia, 2011 World Cup QF http://www.espncricinfo.com/series/8039/scorecard/433601/india-vs-australia-2nd-quarter-final-icc-cricket-world-cup-2010-11 India vs Pakistan, 2011 World Cup SF http://www.espncricinfo.com/series/8039/scorecard/433605/india-vs-pakistan-2nd-semi-final-icc-cricket-world-cup-2010-11 India vs England, 2013 Champions Trophy Final http://www.espncricinfo.com/series/8037/scorecard/566948/england-vs-india-final-icc-champions-trophy-2013 India vs Pakistan, 2017 Champions Trophy Final http://www.espncricinfo.com/series/8037/scorecard/1022375/india-vs-pakistan-final-icc-champions-trophy-2017 All I can say is, if this guy is the saviour. Then God help us all!! Laaloo, saik, bahubali and 1 other 1 1 1 1 Link to comment
R!TTER Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 5 minutes ago, mancalledsting said: All I can say is, if this guy is the saviour That was probably tongue in cheek whoever said that, or maybe he's a CSK fan. Dhoni's record is awful in crunch games, everyone knows that. Laaloo and mancalledsting 2 Link to comment
velu Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 if a player plays 300 odd games , he/she will have some obvious failures .. what about the games in which dhoni bhai did indeed rescued india ? it will be easier to come to a conclusion by comparing both set of stats 25/3 to 381/6 http://www.espncricinfo.com/series/10732/scorecard/1034821/india-vs-england-2nd-odi-england-tour-of-india-2016-17 Link to comment
ShoonyaSifar Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 In fact other than 2011 WC final and a match vs Zim in last WC where Raina also scored a 100 in a chase, can't remember any significant contribution from Dhoni in 3 WCs, 4 CTs and 6 T20 WCs..must have played more than 50 matches if not more across these ICC tournaments. He's played a few good knocks like one vs WI in 2009, another one in a tri series final again in WI, 100 vs Pakistani in the Aane do series. But thats about it. Only that Tri series final knock was a match winning, every other match was lost in the end anyways. Suhaan, Stan AF, Laaloo and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment
ShoonyaSifar Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 10 minutes ago, velu said: if a player plays 300 odd games , he/she will have some obvious failures .. what about the games in which dhoni bhai did indeed rescued india ? it will be easier to come to a conclusion by comparing both set of stats 25/3 to 381/6 http://www.espncricinfo.com/series/10732/scorecard/1034821/india-vs-england-2nd-odi-england-tour-of-india-2016-17 Yuvraj scored 150 (126), was going at run a ball all through the inings while Dhoni was doing tuk tuk at a SR of 50 on the other end. IIRC he played out first 19-20 balls without scoring a run while Yuvi was hitting 4s at will. bahubali, mancalledsting and Laaloo 3 Link to comment
R!TTER Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 END OF OVER:21 | 3 Runs | INDIA: 95/3 | RR: 4.52 MS Dhoni 21 (45b) Yuvraj Singh 50 (56b) BA Stokes 3-0-12-0 MM Ali 2-0-9-0 END OF OVER:33 | 7 Runs | INDIA: 190/3 | RR: 5.75 Yuvraj Singh 100 (98b) MS Dhoni 62 (75b) LE Plunkett 6-1-34-0 BA Stokes 6-0-46-0 END OF OVER:42 | 6 Runs | INDIA: 274/3 | RR: 6.52 MS Dhoni 93 (101b) Yuvraj Singh 150 (126b) BA Stokes 8-0-67-0 CR Woakes 8-3-39-3 Link to comment
Gollum Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 Dhoni's greatest ODI knock was against Pakistan in Chennai in the Aane Do series. We were 20/5 and the ball was hopping around crazy. He had 2 rearguard partnerships with Raina, Ashwin....got a brilliant ton and salvaged some pride. GoldenSun, Real McCoy and Adi BB 3 Link to comment
Trichromatic Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 velu, Real McCoy, flamy and 1 other 1 1 1 1 Link to comment
sergio04 Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 1 minute ago, Trichromatic said: https://twitter.com/PradipMsd7/status/1090816987008126976?s=19 in half of those matches he was in supportive role. bahubali and mancalledsting 2 Link to comment
velu Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 56 minutes ago, ShoonyaSifar said: Yuvraj scored 150 (126), was going at run a ball all through the inings while Dhoni was doing tuk tuk at a SR of 50 on the other end. IIRC he played out first 19-20 balls without scoring a run while Yuvi was hitting 4s at will. just gave a sample .. pick both the stats and then compare .. simple Real McCoy 1 Link to comment
velu Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 20 minutes ago, Trichromatic said: Link to comment
velu Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 47 minutes ago, R!TTER said: END OF OVER:21 | 3 Runs | INDIA: 95/3 | RR: 4.52 MS Dhoni 21 (45b) Yuvraj Singh 50 (56b) BA Stokes 3-0-12-0 MM Ali 2-0-9-0 END OF OVER:33 | 7 Runs | INDIA: 190/3 | RR: 5.75 Yuvraj Singh 100 (98b) MS Dhoni 62 (75b) LE Plunkett 6-1-34-0 BA Stokes 6-0-46-0 END OF OVER:42 | 6 Runs | INDIA: 274/3 | RR: 6.52 MS Dhoni 93 (101b) Yuvraj Singh 150 (126b) BA Stokes 8-0-67-0 CR Woakes 8-3-39-3 thats how to build a partnership .. both batsmen should never go full retard Link to comment
ShoonyaSifar Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 6 minutes ago, velu said: thats how to build a partnership .. both batsmen should never go full retard Any examples where in such situations, Dhoni was the aggressor :P velu, philcric, mancalledsting and 2 others 5 Link to comment
velu Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 9 minutes ago, ShoonyaSifar said: Any examples where in such situations, Dhoni was the aggressor :P good commander will avoid unnecessary war dhoni is the master of percentage cricket Real McCoy and flamy 2 Link to comment
Dil Dil India Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 Let's compare Tendulkar and Dhoni in the biggest match(es) they have played (WC final) since we are cherry picking? Real McCoy 1 Link to comment
bahubali Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 1 hour ago, velu said: if a player plays 300 odd games , he/she will have some obvious failures .. what about the games in which dhoni bhai did indeed rescued india ? it will be easier to come to a conclusion by comparing both set of stats 25/3 to 381/6 http://www.espncricinfo.com/series/10732/scorecard/1034821/india-vs-england-2nd-odi-england-tour-of-india-2016-17 Check out yuvraj..He actually started assault and we all know due to this fake inning they got selected for ct17 only to screw us in final. velu 1 Link to comment
bahubali Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 1 hour ago, ShoonyaSifar said: In fact other than 2011 WC final and a match vs Zim in last WC where Raina also scored a 100 in a chase, can't remember any significant contribution from Dhoni in 3 WCs, 4 CTs and 6 T20 WCs..must have played more than 50 matches if not more across these ICC tournaments. He's played a few good knocks like one vs WI in 2009, another one in a tri series final again in WI, 100 vs Pakistani in the Aane do series. But thats about it. Only that Tri series final knock was a match winning, every other match was lost in the end anyways. That Tri series final knock was against sl and bowler whom he bullied was the great Lokohutugey. Link to comment
R!TTER Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 It wasn't those two that lost us the final, it was the bowlers & Kohli with his fake "we back ourselves to chase anything" bravado! Link to comment
bahubali Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 1 hour ago, Trichromatic said: Where he dominated primarily was against wi, SL and one against Pak whereas on other he played supporting role. One more thing 80 Percent of those are on home pitches especially against tougher opponent. mancalledsting 1 Link to comment
bahubali Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 1 hour ago, R!TTER said: END OF OVER:21 | 3 Runs | INDIA: 95/3 | RR: 4.52 MS Dhoni 21 (45b) Yuvraj Singh 50 (56b) BA Stokes 3-0-12-0 MM Ali 2-0-9-0 END OF OVER:33 | 7 Runs | INDIA: 190/3 | RR: 5.75 Yuvraj Singh 100 (98b) MS Dhoni 62 (75b) LE Plunkett 6-1-34-0 BA Stokes 6-0-46-0 END OF OVER:42 | 6 Runs | INDIA: 274/3 | RR: 6.52 MS Dhoni 93 (101b) Yuvraj Singh 150 (126b) BA Stokes 8-0-67-0 CR Woakes 8-3-39-3 Amazing. Link to comment
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