SK_IH Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 India lost but a what a match it was. Still remember this great series. Below article is a great read, especially bits about Sachin's back issues and his thought process. http://www.thecricketmonthly.com/story/1172609 Link to comment
Jimmy Cliff Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 This match never happened. Mods please close the thread . maniac, Laaloo, Stan AF and 6 others 3 2 4 Link to comment
cric_fan Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 I have the DVD! What a match. sandeep, Adi BB, Rightarmfast and 1 other 4 Link to comment
cric_fan Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 I have the DVD! What a match. Link to comment
SK_IH Posted January 31, 2019 Author Share Posted January 31, 2019 4 minutes ago, Jimmy Cliff said: This match never happened. Mods please close the thread . Tbh Ind never should have even got close to that target in 4th innings but just the utter will of Sachin got Ind close.However, these kind of matches highlight the fact test matches are never won till the last moment and ironically Poyz know it better than most now Link to comment
Popular Post sandeep Posted January 31, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted January 31, 2019 This was the time when Sachin fans could genuinely believe that the guy can deliver miracles. He came so close. Desert Storm in Sharjah, 2 single-handed back to back victories against Aus. And add another one in Dhaka(?) with a 5-fer in another ODI. The 155 and dismantling of Shane Warne - preceded by a FC double playing for Mumbai in the warm-up game. Here was a batting genius, a 5'6" colossus who indisputably dominated the world stage. To me, this innings, and the 175 in an ODI chase against Australia - are classic examples of Tendulkar's unfulfilled potential as a "matchwinner". All those morons who argue this myth with a straight face, who haven't seen in-prime tendulkar bat, and only have the latter day shadow of himself to go by, along with archived scorecards, are the ignorant ones who missed out. Stradlater, AuxiliA, Stan AF and 11 others 9 5 Link to comment
Gollum Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 (edited) Sachin choked, plain and simple. Kapil won us the 1981 MCG test with a serious shin injury which later became a stress fracture, so serious was the pain that in the 4th innings he came to bowl after all the others...target was a mere 140. Kumble bowled with a fractured jaw, Laxman won us the Mohali test with serious back spasms, UV played a big role in the 2011 WC with a golf ball sized tumor, Ashwin played the 2017 Australia series despite sports hernia pain, Clarke played a number of great knocks on days he would take 3 hours just to get off the bed, Arjuna defeated us with a fractured hand, Pataudi and Chandra played their whole lives handicapped. Amarnath took on the WI quicks with a broken collar bone, bruised jaw, broken ribs, concussion and knocked off teeth . The excuses Sachin's bhakts make are cringe worthy. His failure in crunch moments are well documented. A mental midget his whole life who could never take charge and lead his troops, always playing second fiddle or relying on others to get the team wins. Great great batsman from technical/artistic standpoint but lacked guts, character, bloody mindedness. His failure in the Chennai test best exemplifies his weak mental strength, no amount of justifications or fairy-tale stories will convince me otherwise. Elite athletes at that level are expected to break the pain barrier. Edited January 31, 2019 by Gollum speedster, Tendulkar1996, AuxiliA and 6 others 2 1 1 5 Link to comment
SK_IH Posted January 31, 2019 Author Share Posted January 31, 2019 1 minute ago, Gollum said: Sachin choked, plain and simple. Kapil won us the 1981 MCG test with a serious shin injury which later became a stress fracture, so serious was the pain that in the 4th innings he came to bowl after all the others...target was a mere 140. Kumble bowled with a fractured jaw, Laxman won us the Mohali test with serious back spasms, UV played a big role in the 2011 WC with a golf ball sized tumor, Ashwin played the 2017 Australia series despite sports hernia pain, Clarke played a number of great knocks on days he would take 3 hours just to get off the bed, Arjuna defeated us with a fractured hand, Pataudi and Chandra played their whole lives handicapped. Amarnath took on the WI quicks with a broken collar bone, bruised jaw, broken ribs, concussion and knocked off teeth . The excuses Sachin's bhakts make are cringe worthy. His failure in crunch moments are well documented. A mental midget his whole life who could never take charge and lead his troops, always playing second fiddle or relying on others to get him wins. Great great batsman but lacked guts, character or bloody mindedness. His failure in the Chennai test best exemplifies his weak mental strength, no amount of pain or fairy-tale stories will convince me otherwise. Elite athletes at that level are expected to break the pain barrier. Reasoning Sachin has given is stiff back, apparently he was struggling to stand but I agree with you that he somehow choked there. In the same article , they have cited Lara's match winning effort two months later just to rub it into Sachin fans Switchblade, velu, Real McCoy and 1 other 4 Link to comment
Gollum Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, SK_IH said: Reasoning Sachin has given is stiff back, apparently he was struggling to stand but I agree with you that he somehow choked there. In the same article , they have cited Lara's match winning effort two months later just to rub it into Sachin fans Stiff back is the lamest excuse I have ever heard from a sportsperson's mouth. What a wuss !!! I laugh when the irrational Sachin fanboys bring up this knock to talk about his greatness. And he wasn't a rookie, that was his 10th year in international cricket plus some 80 odd test matches under his belt. Edited January 31, 2019 by Gollum Real McCoy 1 Link to comment
Gollum Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 @Harsh Thakor wanted to know which 2 batsmen to combine to get the perfect batsman. I nominate Sachin plus a random batsman who had a spine...beat that. Link to comment
SK_IH Posted January 31, 2019 Author Share Posted January 31, 2019 4 minutes ago, Gollum said: @Harsh Thakor wanted to know which 2 batsmen to combine to get the perfect batsman. I nominate Sachin plus a random batsman who had a spine...beat that. @CSK Fan velu, Switchblade and Real McCoy 3 Link to comment
Popular Post Jimmy Cliff Posted January 31, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted January 31, 2019 13 minutes ago, Gollum said: Sachin choked, plain and simple. Kapil won us the 1981 MCG test with a serious shin injury which later became a stress fracture, so serious was the pain that in the 4th innings he came to bowl after all the others...target was a mere 140. Kumble bowled with a fractured jaw, Laxman won us the Mohali test with serious back spasms, UV played a big role in the 2011 WC with a golf ball sized tumor, Ashwin played the 2017 Australia series despite sports hernia pain, Clarke played a number of great knocks on days he would take 3 hours just to get off the bed, Arjuna defeated us with a fractured hand, Pataudi and Chandra played their whole lives handicapped. Amarnath took on the WI quicks with a broken collar bone, bruised jaw, broken ribs, concussion and knocked off teeth . The excuses Sachin's bhakts make are cringe worthy. His failure in crunch moments are well documented. A mental midget his whole life who could never take charge and lead his troops, always playing second fiddle or relying on others to get the team wins. Great great batsman from technical/artistic standpoint but lacked guts, character, bloody mindedness. His failure in the Chennai test best exemplifies his weak mental strength, no amount of justifications or fairy-tale stories will convince me otherwise. Elite athletes at that level are expected to break the pain barrier. So he hit a couple of fours to reduce the target from 25 to 17 but then choked on the next ball? One expects such comments from some of the resident idiots but not from you dude. I am assuming you think Gavaskar "choked" when he got out for 96 in his last Test as well. And Lara "choked" too when he nicked a couple of deliveries from Gillespie and McGrath in the latter stages of his 153. Number, Adi BB, GoldenSun and 8 others 11 Link to comment
sarcastic Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 18 minutes ago, Gollum said: Sachin choked, plain and simple. Kapil won us the 1981 MCG test with a serious shin injury which later became a stress fracture, so serious was the pain that in the 4th innings he came to bowl after all the others...target was a mere 140. Kumble bowled with a fractured jaw, Laxman won us the Mohali test with serious back spasms, UV played a big role in the 2011 WC with a golf ball sized tumor, Ashwin played the 2017 Australia series despite sports hernia pain, Clarke played a number of great knocks on days he would take 3 hours just to get off the bed, Arjuna defeated us with a fractured hand, Pataudi and Chandra played their whole lives handicapped. Amarnath took on the WI quicks with a broken collar bone, bruised jaw, broken ribs, concussion and knocked off teeth . The excuses Sachin's bhakts make are cringe worthy. His failure in crunch moments are well documented. A mental midget his whole life who could never take charge and lead his troops, always playing second fiddle or relying on others to get the team wins. Great great batsman from technical/artistic standpoint but lacked guts, character, bloody mindedness. His failure in the Chennai test best exemplifies his weak mental strength, no amount of justifications or fairy-tale stories will convince me otherwise. Elite athletes at that level are expected to break the pain barrier. Tendulkar had brought India as close as he could. India needed 16 runs to win when he got out. "The tail should have got those runs and finished the match for India" says many experts including Anantha Narayanan from CI. Fair point I will say, a mearge 16 runs.... maniac 1 Link to comment
velu Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 17 minutes ago, Jimmy Cliff said: So he hit a couple of fours to reduce the target from 25 to 17 but then choked on the next ball? One expects such comments from some of the resident idiots but not from you dude. I am assuming you think Gavaskar "choked" when he got out for 96 in his last Test as well. And Lara "choked" too when he nicked a couple of deliveries from Gillespie and McGrath in the latter stages of his 153. he is sarcastic Link to comment
Gollum Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 9 minutes ago, Jimmy Cliff said: So he hit a couple of fours to reduce the target from 25 to 17 but then choked on the next ball? One expects such comments from some of the resident idiots but not from you dude. I am assuming you think Gavaskar "choked" when he got out for 96 in his last Test as well. And Lara "choked" too when he nicked a couple of deliveries from Gillespie and McGrath in the latter stages of his 153. That was a bad choke dude, worst part is the string of excuses about his bad back. I quoted several examples of cricketers playing through pain and winning matches...the 'stiff back' nonsense (he played the next test, nothing major) doesn't do justice to anyone with an iota of intelligence. That sorry excuse makes me react worse when I think about that loss. Gavaskar's knock came on a rank turner and he was barely surviving (quite a few umpiring reprieves), '99 Chennai pitch played better and SRT was in complete control. Lara was dropped but got the job done in the end, had he failed he too should have received criticism. And he didn't give a chance with a mad swipe like SRT. Anyhow if it makes you happier I don't rate Lara highly in the mental department either. 7 minutes ago, sarcastic said: Tendulkar had brought India as close as he could. India needed 16 runs to win when he got out. "The tail should have got those runs and finished the match for India" says many experts including Anantha Narayanan from CI. Fair point I will say, a mearge 16 runs.... Close doesn't cut it. If you want to be hailed as the greatest batsman of your era you should finish the job. And it wasn't an unplayable ball that did him in, he played a gully mohalla level ghatiya shot and perished. He did the same in that Hyderabad 175 which sandeep mentioned. Switchblade, Laaloo and Real McCoy 1 1 1 Link to comment
Gollum Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 Chennai 1999 Calcutta 1999 (they were 6/26 on day 1 morning ) Mohali 2005 escape Bangalore 2005 (couldn't bat out final day on a patta against Sami, Razzaq, Afridi, Kaneria) Karachi 2006 (0/3, 6/39....lost by 350 runs !!!) The CT final disaster pales in front of these 5 heartbreaks, so many close matches we were thwarted by them. Link to comment
sandeep Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 47 minutes ago, Gollum said: Sachin choked, plain and simple. A century in the 4th innings against a top class attack. Your definition of "choke" is quite interesting. Stradlater, Rightarmfast and GoldenSun 3 Link to comment
Stan AF Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 14 minutes ago, velu said: our tail cant bat Same frickin story continuing 20 years later. velu 1 Link to comment
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