maniac Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 (edited) Team with the best pace attack India Australia South Africa Team with the best spin attack India Afghanistan England Team with the best opening combo+1 down India Australia ( If Warner returns and Smith bats 3) else Newzealand England/ Newzealand depending on the above criteria Best fielding units Newzealand England India Most well rounded and all round overall bowling attack with most bases covered India England Pakistan Team with strongest middle order Newzealand England India Team with the best power hitting in lower middle order Australia England Newzealand Team with most batting depth England Pakistan( controversial yes but even though their tail is at the same level as their top order, they can all contribute) Australia Team with the best keeper-bat England Bangladesh South Africa Team with the best mental strength India Australia( in big tournaments) Newzealand Most unpredictable team Pakistan Westindies Newzealand Team with the best bench strength South Africa (most starting players might have to sit out due to quotas) New zealand England Team most flexible with their approach Srilanka Newzealand Pakistan Team most rigid/ conservative with their approach India Westindies ( they only play one way) South Africa Edited February 11, 2019 by maniac Link to comment
maniac Posted February 11, 2019 Author Share Posted February 11, 2019 So right now here is how I would rank the teams for the WC 1.England ( home conditions give them the edge) 2.India 3.Newzealand 4.Australia 5.Pakistan 6.South Africa 7.Bangladesh 8.Westindies 9.Afghanistan 10.Srilanka Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 My top 3 teams for WC 1. India Top 3 batsman are best best bowling attack - pace, spin, variety, consistency has it all . Infact part timer jadhav has also been a headache for Opp 2. England Powerhouse batting lineup Number of all rounders Depth in batting 3. Pakistan always does well in england unpredictability Subcontinent team have better nerves then overseas apart from australia . Sarfraz as captain is good in those pressure games. 4th position is open Link to comment
SecondSlip Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 3 hours ago, maniac said: Team with the best pace attack India Australia South Africa Team with the best spin attack India Afghanistan England Team with the best opening combo+1 down India Australia ( If Warner returns and Smith bats 3) else Newzealand England/ Newzealand depending on the above criteria Best fielding units Newzealand England India Most well rounded and all round overall bowling attack with most bases covered India England Pakistan Team with strongest middle order Newzealand England India Team with the best power hitting in lower middle order Australia England Newzealand Team with most batting depth England Pakistan( controversial yes but even though their tail is at the same level as their top order, they can all contribute) Australia Team with the best keeper-bat England Bangladesh South Africa Team with the best mental strength India Australia( in big tournaments) Newzealand Most unpredictable team Pakistan Westindies Newzealand Team with the best bench strength South Africa (most starting players might have to sit out due to quotas) New zealand England Team most flexible with their approach Srilanka Newzealand Pakistan Team most rigid/ conservative with their approach India Westindies ( they only play one way) South Africa Team India has the best bench strength. India A just walloped England Lions 4-1 this past month. Before that, India A whitewashed New Zealand A 3-0 in NZ. How can you say that these teams have better bench strength than us? Link to comment
flamy Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 NZ don't have a great opening combo. That's in fact their weakness. Also, WI have some great power hitters. That's their basic team strategy - hit sixes Stan AF 1 Link to comment
maniac Posted February 12, 2019 Author Share Posted February 12, 2019 47 minutes ago, SecondSlip said: Team India has the best bench strength. India A just walloped England Lions 4-1 this past month. Before that, India A whitewashed New Zealand A 3-0 in NZ. How can you say that these teams have better bench strength than us? I am not talking about potential for future. Shaw,Gill, Kishan,Aggarwal (ODIs) , Iyer, Saini etc etc are not bench strength yet. we only have good backup for keeper-bats. what if god forbid one or 2 of our fast bowlers or spinners get injured? Who is our backup opener ready to take over? Don’t say Rahul. its our bowling that is winning us games but it is only the 3-4 bowlers. Even if 2 of them are injured we are screwed. Look at Nzl for example they have Boult,Southee,Henry,Ferguson,Milne,Mcleneghan and the 2-3 guys they tried recently. England have stokes,woakes,willey,wood, archer,the other name that is skipping me the guy who hit a last ball 6 against Srilanka etc etc. I am not saying they are better bowlers than the Indian attack, I already said India has the no.1 pace attack but I am talking about ready made backups. Link to comment
philcric Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 India's fielding is not particularly good. Virat, Hardik are top class. Rohit, Shikhar, Karthik, Bhuvi are decent. Rayudud, Jadhav, Shami, Bumrah, Kuldeep, Chahal are below average. I'd imagine Eng, Aus, NZ, SA are better than us. Even WI, Pak, SL, Bang, Afg may be about the same level as us. Link to comment
Stan AF Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 Indian team strength is in it's bowling & not batting. If the team wins the cup this time it will be because of its bowling. flamy 1 Link to comment
SK_IH Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 8 minutes ago, Stan AF said: Indian team strength is in it's bowling & not batting. If the team wins the cup this time it will be because of its bowling. i agree with you, top bowling side would win the WC this year Link to comment
Stan AF Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 It's not just that. The captain has to make sure they bowl in tandem. Bowlers hunt in pairs like tiger cubs. Shami & Bumrah is the ideal opening pair. They bowl in the right areas, have pace that hurries up the batsmen and make batsmen play false shots. Kuldeep and Chahal should be used well in the latter stages of the tournament when the summer is at its peak and helps in turn. IMO, 40 overs from them is as good as 100s from opening bats. Pandya and Jadhav can be used sparingly. Pandya must work on his line and lengths and must not give freebie wides. IMO, he is the weakness in the bowling unit as everyone else is far superior. SK_IH 1 Link to comment
Stan AF Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 Out of the top 5 ODI teams since 2017 CT, only Indian bowlers have dismissed the entire opposition 20(21???) times. The remaining 4(SENA) teams have done a collective effort of 31or 32 times in the same time frame. BOWLING is india's key. They make the job easy for our batsmen. Link to comment
Gollum Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 1 hour ago, Stan AF said: Indian team strength is in it's bowling & not batting. If the team wins the cup this time it will be because of its bowling. 1983, 2011, even 2013 CT we won mainly on the back of our bowling and not batting. Even though our bowlers may not have the same quality as others, they do well as a unit and have been tremendously clutch in our great triumphs. Even in 2015 WC our bowlers got all sides all out in the group stage, taking load from the batsmen...Umesh, Shami, Ashwin and Mohit were among the best bowlers on display. In SF that legend Smith took charge of the match when Warner was dismissed early and Finch was struggling.....more than blaming our bowlers we must appreciate Smith who scored one of the greatest ODI 100s of all time. Remove him and we would have dismissed them under 260. All the world cups I remember watching, if I have to grade the performance by Indian batsmen and bowlers....the latter would score higher in most WCs. Link to comment
Stan AF Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 (edited) http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=2;filter=advanced;opposition=6;orderby=start;qualmin1=10;qualval1=team_wickets;spanmin1=21+jun+2017;spanval1=span;template=results;type=team;view=innings India!!!!. Plus our top 3 are the highest wicket takers in ODI's in the same time frame. http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=2;filter=advanced;orderby=wickets;spanmin2=1+jul+2017;spanval2=span;template=results;type=bowling Edited February 12, 2019 by Stan AF Link to comment
tweaker Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 India main problem will be bowling of Bhubaneswar. With Bumrah, Shami ,Kuldeep, Chahal bowling well, batsman will try to get the maximum runs from Bhubaneswar overs. If Bumrah , Shami are not able to take wickets upfront , Bhubaneswar, Pandya jadhav bowling will be the weak link. Link to comment
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