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Like I said earlier on the forum, South African bowlers are not as much a threat abroad. Least of all, Philander. Even Rabada would be rendered toothless in subcontinent.

Indian bowling is at a different level. Would be interesting to see how they fare against the trio of Imran, wasim, waqar, and the duo of waqar and wasim in away records. I am guessing our bowlers are better.

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SA fast bowling attack is probably the best but beyond SENA they would struggle...even in SA the Aussie attack over performed until last years tour. India on other hand have an attack that can challenge in SENA and totally dominate in SC conditions including Windies. SA needs good spin twin (Warne/Gill like combination to be world beater)  

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Overseas avgs are helped by playing in SA, Eng and Aus, which was w/o a couple of key batsmen

 

In Ind, pitches are tailor made for Ashwin and Jadeja 

 

Though with Bumrah and Shami, we have two wkt taking bowlers. Kuldeep can be developed in tests too to bring in the element of mystery 

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1 hour ago, zen said:

Overseas avgs are helped by playing in SA, Eng and Aus, which was w/o a couple of key batsmen

they will play who is put in front of them

 

ABDV did not playy in SA - but that was known. Smith and Warner is a big impact agreed. But i would say this bowling attack would have still fared well even with all the above batsmen played in all the games. 

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1 minute ago, Vilander said:

they will play who is put in front of them

 

ABDV did not playy in SA - but that was known. Smith and Warner is a big impact agreed. But i would say this bowling attack would have still fared well even with all the above batsmen played in all the games. 

Hard to say that as for e.g. w/o Pujara, we would have lost the series (and Aus bowlers could have had much better averages) .... Similarly, key batsmen of the other team could have made impact too 

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2 minutes ago, zen said:

Hard to say that as for e.g. w/o Pujara, we would have lost the series (and Aus bowlers could have had much better averages) .... Similarly, key batsmen of the other team could have made impact too 

yeah, there is trouble in w/0 Pujara corollary, if not Pujara someone who is similar would have been identified for the position, maybe Mayank would have played in place of Pujara in an alternate universe. And similarly for Aus Indian bowlers would have found a way to get the wickets of smith and warner for lesser than how much it cost for Indian wickets.  meaning its not happenstance that Indian team did well in Aus they had the game plan and execution for it. 

 

 

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5 minutes ago, Vilander said:

yeah, there is trouble in w/0 Pujara corollary, if not Pujara someone who is similar would have been identified for the position, maybe Mayank would have played in place of Pujara in an alternate universe. And similarly for Aus Indian bowlers would have found a way to get the wickets of smith and warner for lesser than how much it cost for Indian wickets.  meaning its not happenstance that Indian team did well in Aus they had the game plan and execution for it. 

Point is that we have seen everyone bat. And it was difficult to score those runs esp. in the first two tests .... If we had lost at Adelaide, we could have lost the series .... Let's not discuss for the sake for it! 

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see these sats are for past 3 year period the whole cycle of away tours, they are the only team that averages lesser away than home and almost similar averages( so no home advantage really). There is remarkable consistency in this, just because they are Indians and we self-loath we should not belittle this.

Even our drunk cheerleader did not have the awareness to hype them as best in the world, he must have thought "they are Indians so must be crap #hick# - i will say best ever from india that should be 150% of what i think they are so we are good - #hick#"

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3 minutes ago, zen said:

Point is that we have seen everyone bat. And it was difficult to score those runs esp. in the first two tests .... If we had lost at Adelaide, we could have lost the series .... Let's not discuss for the sake for it! 

agreed. But then pujara played and smith and warner did not - my point is you can not statistically analyze which does not exist just extrapolate what can be from a derived trend.

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they will play who is put in front of them
 
ABDV did not playy in SA - but that was known. Smith and Warner is a big impact agreed. But i would say this bowling attack would have still fared well even with all the above batsmen played in all the games. 
Abdv Saved SA otherwise it would have been 3-0.

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5 hours ago, Vilander said:

 

 

ABDV did not playy in SA - but that was known.

 

He played.

 

5 hours ago, Vilander said:

Smith and Warner is a big impact agreed. But i would say this bowling attack would have still fared well even with all the above batsmen played in all the games. 

Agree.

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6 hours ago, Vilander said:

they will play who is put in front of them

 

ABDV did not playy in SA - but that was known. Smith and Warner is a big impact agreed. But i would say this bowling attack would have still fared well even with all the above batsmen played in all the games. 

ABDV did play in SA.

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12 hours ago, CG said:

Abdv Saved SA otherwise it would have been 3-0.

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10 hours ago, express bowling said:

 

He played.

 

Agree.

 

9 hours ago, rkt.india said:

ABDV did play in SA.

oh nice its ODI he did not play few games. he came back for a game and won if i remember. This means India played a full strength SA except for Steyn ?

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2 hours ago, Vilander said:

 

 

oh nice its ODI he did not play few games. he came back for a game and won if i remember. This means India played a full strength SA except for Steyn ?

Steyn played first test.  ABDV played 3 ODIs, we won two of them, lost one.

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AB was the difference , like Kallis was in 2011.Without these two India would have won both series.But if want to be the best you have to beat the best.India was not good enough in both cases.

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11 hours ago, Khota said:

I think he has been flat lately. Offspin is a difficult trade to begin with unless you cheat like Ajmal or Murali.

Lately as in Aus. Yeah thats a problem he should probably not be in starting 11 in Aus. 

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5 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

decent, he is a damn good bowler 

u call stokes a ranji player

now lyon a decent player

whats next

I am comparing them for spot in Indian team. I don't think both of them can crack the Indian team.

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1 minute ago, Khota said:

I am comparing them for spot in Indian team. I don't think both of them can crack the Indian team.

Stokes easily , if stokes was in India,....pandya cud have easily played domestic for few yrs before graduating to test level. Stokes will get into any team of world currently

lyon with his overseas bowling he wud to over ashwin .....but ashwin scores over him in batting

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21 hours ago, putrevus said:

AB was the difference , like Kallis was in 2011.Without these two India would have won both series.But if want to be the best you have to beat the best.India was not good enough in both cases.

SRT was out injured in 2004 and Aus won that series in India.

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Boomrah, Shami good. Peesant is crap. So is

Phatwin. We need chuck him out and try Kuldeep, Jadeja and Chahaal. Also where are the super phasst I keep hearing about. All I saw was Jaleel and Siraj ... next! Maybe they are like Bigfoot, everyone talks about them, but nowhere to be seen.

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