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In the group stages, a team will play nine games. If we take the 315 as avg score per game, a team will score 2835 (say 2,800) runs. 

 

India

  • It is said that its batting strength revolves around the top 3 of Rohit-Dhawan-Kohli. If Ind gets 315 avg score, the chances are that the top 3 would need to make around 175-200 runs. Over the 9 games, it translates in to 1500-1800 runs. It can be difficult to average 500-600 runs among the 3 in the tourney esp. when you consider having to score big vs 5-6 good teams. Against lesser teams, other batsmen can do well too  
  • If these 3 play cautious cricket, the other batsmen may need to start hitting from ball 2 or 3, which means that consistency could be sacrificed leading to occasional collapse 
  • On the bowling front, specialist bowlers such as Bhuvi, Khaleel, and Chahal can be hit for big runs. The workload in a long tourney could be a negative factor esp. after the IPL  

 

Pakistan 

  • The key question for them is how are they going to score 315 runs consistently. Hafeez-Malik-Babar-etc need to have splendid games to be able to do that. It would be hard to do that on consistent basis esp. since the overall quality is lacking. Pak may need to bat deep with most batsmen scoring good to mitigate such risks  
  • Bowling is ok if the pitches are relatively flat  
  • Fielding is an issue too

 

AFG / BD / SL 

  • Consistency is a concern 

 

 

In a long tournament, teams, in general, need depth to be successful. In terms of batting, it needs a bunch of players to score 300+ runs (vs a couple scoring 400+ and rest only contributing here and there). Over 9 games, you need to have a bowling unit that can be consistent too 

 

In the recent tourneys, Asian teams have been good when the group size has been relatively small and there are a bunch of pressure / KO games (2011 WC, CT, ....). In a long round robin based group, such pressure situation are relatively less and usually surface at the end of the group stages when qualifying equations are clear 

 

The point is that the work is cut out for these teams. In a way, the group stages are going to like S8 of 2007 WC .... i hope that they can overcome the challenges and do well .... BOL! :angel:

 

 

 

 

 

 

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5 minutes ago, Vilander said:

I expect Ind to do well and  BD and Afg to do better than expected. 

That would mean beating many of the key non-Asian teams .... For e.g if SL beats BD, AFG, Pak and Ind but loses to other 5 teams, it would not gain much and dent other Asian teams' chances :lol: 

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1 hour ago, zen said:

In the group stages, a team will play nine games. If we take the 315 as avg score per game, a team will score 2835 (say 2,800) runs. 

 

India

  • It is said that its batting strength revolves around the top 3 of Rohit-Dhawan-Kohli. If Ind gets 315 avg score, the chances are that the top 3 would need to make around 175-200 runs. Over the 9 games, it translates in to 1500-1800 runs. It can be difficult to average 500-600 runs among the 3 in the tourney esp. when you consider having to score big vs 5-6 good teams. Against lesser teams, other batsmen can do well too  
  • If these 3 play cautious cricket, the other batsmen may need to start hitting from ball 2 or 3, which means that consistency could be sacrificed leading to occasional collapse 
  • On the bowling front, specialist bowlers such as Bhuvi, Khaleel, and Chahal can be hit for big runs. The workload in a long tourney could be a negative factor esp. after the IPL  

 

 

 

The other challenge for India is the schedule.

 

India's first 3 matches are against RSA, Aus, and NZ. 3 very strong ODI teams in English conditions. India needs to ideally win 2 of first 3 or at least 1. You lose first 3, all of sudden you are under enormous pressure to win remaining matches to get to semi final.

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1 minute ago, GolGappe said:

The other challenge for India in the schedule.

 

India's first 3 test matches are against RSA, Aus, and NZ. 3 very strong ODI teams in English conditions. India needs to ideally win 2 of first 3 or at least 1. You lose first 3, all of sudden you are under enormous pressure to win remaining games to get to semi final.

 

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17 minutes ago, GolGappe said:

The other challenge for India in the schedule.

 

India's first 3 matches are against RSA, Aus, and NZ. 3 very strong ODI teams in English conditions. India needs to ideally win 2 of first 3 or at least 1. You lose first 3, all of sudden you are under enormous pressure to win remaining games to get to semi final.

In that case it would practically be out as these teams are expected to beat some of the lesser teams as well .... have to rely on AFG or BD or SL creating upsets 

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1 hour ago, Vilander said:

I expect Ind to do well and  BD and Afg to do better than expected. 

This current NZ series will also give us a hint on how BD will do in WC. From the first odi scorecard, doesn't look promising for them. 

I can see AFG troubling alot of teams. MAy not win many but will come very close. 

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Here is the points table for 1992 World Cup. 2019 World Cup follows the same format but has one additional team. If you win 6 out of 9, you are in pretty good shape.

5 out of 9 wins, you may have to rely on favorable results from other matches.

 

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15 minutes ago, GolGappe said:

Here is the points table for 1992 World Cup. 2019 World Cup follows the same format but has one additional team. If you win 6 out of 9, you are in pretty good shape.

5 out of 9 wins, you may have to rely on favorable results from other matches.

 

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The competition in 92 was healthy esp among 4,5 and 6, and there were NR games as well .... Here, strong teams are expected to not lose to AFG, BD and SL. So of the remaining 6, if you beat 3, you could still run into NRR scenario. Teams should aim for 7 wins unless AFG, BD and SL beat a few top teams, which should make it interesting!

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12 hours ago, zen said:

In the group stages, a team will play nine games. If we take the 315 as avg score per game, a team will score 2835 (say 2,800) runs. 

 

India

  • It is said that its batting strength revolves around the top 3 of Rohit-Dhawan-Kohli. If Ind gets 315 avg score, the chances are that the top 3 would need to make around 175-200 runs. Over the 9 games, it translates in to 1500-1800 runs. It can be difficult to average 500-600 runs among the 3 in the tourney esp. when you consider having to score big vs 5-6 good teams. Against lesser teams, other batsmen can do well too  
  • If these 3 play cautious cricket, the other batsmen may need to start hitting from ball 2 or 3, which means that consistency could be sacrificed leading to occasional collapse 
  • On the bowling front, specialist bowlers such as Bhuvi, Khaleel, and Chahal can be hit for big runs. The workload in a long tourney could be a negative factor esp. after the IPL  

 

Pakistan 

  • The key question for them is how are they going to score 315 runs consistently. Hafeez-Malik-Babar-etc need to have splendid games to be able to do that. It would be hard to do that on consistent basis esp. since the overall quality is lacking. Pak may need to bat deep with most batsmen scoring good to mitigate such risks  
  • Bowling is ok if the pitches are relatively flat  
  • Fielding is an issue too

 

AFG / BD / SL 

  • Consistency is a concern 

 

 

In a long tournament, teams, in general, need depth to be successful. In terms of batting, it needs a bunch of players to score 300+ runs (vs a couple scoring 400+ and rest only contributing here and there). Over 9 games, you need to have a bowling unit that can be consistent too 

 

In the recent tourneys, Asian teams have been good when the group size has been relatively small and there are a bunch of pressure / KO games (2011 WC, CT, ....). In a long round robin based group, such pressure situation are relatively less and usually surface at the end of the group stages when qualifying equations are clear 

 

The point is that the work is cut out for these teams. In a way, the group stages are going to like S8 of 2007 WC .... i hope that they can overcome the challenges and do well .... BOL! :angel:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Specialist Bowler such as Jaleel??:phehe:I really hope selectors don't considers him for WC squad...what a waste of one spot...

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