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44 personnel martyred in terror attack on CRPF convoy in Jammu and Kashmir's Pulwama

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Statement from US department of state.

J&K here is called an Indian state and not some disputed territory as some Pakistanis would have us believe. Someone show this to those chest thumpers who cry randi rona of 'disputed region' whenever the name of Kashmir is mentioned.

 

The United States condemns in the strongest terms the terrorist attack today on an Indian Central Reserve Police Force convoy in the Indian state of Jammu and Kashmir. We extend our deepest condolences to the victims and their families, and wish a speedy recovery to those injured. The United States is resolutely committed to working with the Indian government to combat terrorism in all its forms. The UN designated, Pakistan-based terrorist group Jaish-e-Muhammad has claimed responsibility for this heinous act. We call on all countries to uphold their responsibilities pursuant to UN Security Council resolutions to deny safe haven and support for terrorists.

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Have been angry about such incidences happening .... But Ind (politians) lacks backbone and strategic vision. At times, people will also speak about how an action vs Pak could hurt trade with that country (some morons think $$$ are everything for everyone). And times, ppl will even say we are not USA and work towards convincing others how Ind’s hands are tied 

 

The pattern in Ind has been to show anger and pain when such incidences happen, then move on to enjoy life (cricket and films in particular, while destroying the environment. If you care so much about your country, the least you can do is safeguard the environment and not pollute it), and when such incidences happen again, repeat the process 

 

Ind display courage and self respect to be taken seriously  :hitler:

 

 

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Libtards more worried about safety of Kashmiri students outside the valley than condemning the terror attack and Pakistan. So now the Kashmiri piglets studying/working elsewhere can talk smack, celebrate the attack, burn the flag...but the others are supposed to keep mum and let it be. So many Kashmiris live outside their state probably in lakhs, but only a few handful who provoked post the tragedy were taken to task by their colleagues and patriots. Why should the entire Hindu community be made to feel apologetic at this moment? Blood boils.....time for a solution, hunt down the traitors within.

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Some of those tweets :facepalm:

 

How  insensitive was that so called “reporter” . Hope this bitch never gets work ever again. Need to make sure this doesn’t die out and she is brought back as if nothing happened.need to keep this rage burning.

 

Baffles me to even think how soomeone can have this point of view at this stage.

 

to add to my above point, you have to be absolutely burning with hatred or an absolute idiot  to say something so stupid at this situation.

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India should be ruthless in dealing with these terrorist bastards.   They should take a leaf out of Israel and Srilanka  in dealing with such anti national groups. SL is such a small country when compared to India. India has the largest Hindu population in the world.Yet when the emergency situation arrived, SL didn't take into account that  such a big country  in every terms is lying   close to them who shares the same religion as the offenders(Lankan Tamils).They ruthlessly dealt with it and closed the LTTE case for ever. Smilarly Israel lies in the midst of several of these pagan cult oriented nations. Yet they give back with interest every time they gets something.  All these times both SL and Israel didn't have to face any backlash  from  other major countries. Here we are sitting with the claim of being one of the major military powers. When our soldiers get killed , they most often silently suffers with it. For what , these morons are waiting for? No body will do any thing .Ruthlessly deal with these terrorist frauds using all  forces. The vast majority of the population is supportive of it except for some  double standard hypocrite so called secularists.     Use all tactics  to deal with those even kid devils who throws stones at the soldiers. Don't even hesitate in mass killings using every means . Take a leaf out of Israel and Srilanka

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Suicidal Pakistan should know Modi may not be scared of its nuclear button

Pakistan has taken too much of a chance with Pulwama — with the wrong government in India, and at the wrong time.

SHEKHAR GUPTA

16 February, 2019 8:30 am
National Interest

Graphic by Soham Sen/ThePrint

Noted American scholar on South Asia, Stephen P. Cohen, has a genius description for Pakistani strategic thought. Pakistan, he says, negotiates with the world by holding the gun to its own head: Give me what I want, or I will blow my brains out. You then handle the mess. Has Pakistan pulled that trigger in Pulwama?

First, get any notion that this was a purely indigenous act of terror out of the way. The suicide terrorist was a radicalised Indian Kashmiri. But count the reasons why this couldn’t be an entirely Indian planned and executed operation:

*Jaish-e-Mohammed has claimed responsibility. It is purely a Pakistan-based and ISI-controlled organisation.

*While radicalisation and motivation can be local, there is zero evidence that this volume of high explosive (most likely RDX or RDX-mixed) is available with usually amateurish local groups, along with skills to rig the trigger-timer mechanism.

*See that last video the bomber recorded. He is reading pre-written text from a board placed in front, or cards held by someone. The language isn’t so much about Kashmiri grievances or revenge, as to instigate Muslims in the rest of India. Babri Masjid and Gujarat are invoked, and “all our Muslims” exhorted to rise in revolt against “cow-urine drinkers”. This is precisely how Jaish, even more than Lashkar-e-Taiba, thinks. Not local Kashmiris.

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This action fits perfectly the pattern set by Jaish in the past. The suicide bombing of the state assembly in Srinagar in 2001, the attack on Parliament later the same year, raids on Pathankot and Gurdaspur, have all had the same objective: To somehow take the terror fallout beyond Kashmir. Lashkar did so in Mumbai (26/11) too, but much of its energy and manpower is still used in fighting in Kashmir. Under global pressure, it is also being mainstreamed by its GHQ patrons into Pakistani politics. Jaish, much smaller but enormously more vicious, resourceful and an ISI favourite, is more selective with “impact” attacks.

How resourceful Jaish is, we know from the IC-814 hijack. It could get an Indian plane hijacked from Kathmandu and taken to safe harbour in Kandahar to trade hostages for its key leaders jailed in India. It’s been established repeatedly in subsequent research that every step in that hijack, from facilitation in Kathmandu to negotiations in Kandahar using the Taliban, and then safe “recovery” of released Jaish chief Masood Azhar and others, was overseen by the ISI.

To the Pakistani establishment and ISI, Azhar and Jaish are much bigger assets than even Lashkar and Hafiz Saeed. Jaish is their main force-multiplier. The Chinese also acknowledge it, which is the reason they are shamelessly complicit in protecting him.

That this terrorist was a local Kashmiri is no surprise. In each of its actions so far, including IC-814, Parliament and other attacks, Jaish has had key participation of Indian Kashmiris. Afzal Guru, remember, was Indian. Mushtaq Ahmed Zargar, one of the other two jailed terrorists traded for IC-814 passengers, was Kashmiri. We have enough evidence, therefore, to stop wasting time in local, root-cause theories and giving Pakistan any deniability, however implausible.

Also read: Peshawar to Pulwama, how Pakistan differentiates snakes in its backyard & front yard

Why do we raise that question: Has Pakistan finally pulled that trigger on its own head? Because, all the earlier Jaish and Lashkar attacks passed without a publicised retaliation, although we know about some secret “surgical strikes” in the past. Between Atal Bihari Vajpayee and Manmohan Singh, India was able to ride out the moments of anger with coercive diplomacy, global pressure on Pakistan and a strategic mindset that was fundamentally pacifist, and believed in responding no more than proportionately to any provocation.

The Modi government has no such pretence. It holds both Manmohan and Vajpayee and other governments of the past in contempt for what it sees as their “pusillanimity”. Further, having made such noise and political capital from the post-Uri surgical strikes, there is no way it is going to be able to hold fire or restrain itself for long. Pakistan has it coming. Where, how, when, nobody knows. But it can’t be long.

A retaliatory response could come soon. It will also be visible, high-decibel and wrapped in claims of victorious retribution. India is in the early days of its most vicious election campaign yet. Narendra Modi will not go seeking a second term with the taint of Pulwama.

It will then be for Pakistan to decide whether to leave it there, or respond to its own popular compulsions to begin a retaliatory cycle. It could, besides whatever happens militarily, end this tenure of Imran Khan. History tells us no Pakistani leader can go to war, big or small, with India and survive. Ayub Khan (1965), Yahya Khan (1971) and Nawaz Sharif (Kargil, 1999) tell us that. Three instances, as we say in journalism, is a straight line.

There can’t be much argument over the essential reality of Pakistan: That Imran will not have a decisive say in what happens next. He might ultimately pay for the army/ISI bullheadedness as Nawaz did for Kargil, and he will need enormous skill and luck not to become that scapegoat. No elected prime minister has the final word on such issues in Pakistan and Imran, if anything, is among the weakest in some time. The call to engage in an immediate escalatory cycle or not, will be his army’s. Could he even counsel them against it, we can’t be sure. They will decide whether to blow their brains out or not. He’s a loser either way.

Besides the difference between Modi and his predecessors, there are two other important distinctions now. One, that it is a world radically different from what we left behind in 2008 (26/11) or 2001-02 (J&K assembly and Parliament attacks). Then, top American and European leaders would come flying in, heads of states would make phone calls, Russia and China would all weigh in to calm things down, calm and reassure Indian public opinion by expressing solidarity with us and condemning Pakistan.

That world doesn’t exist anymore. It unravelled the day Donald Trump was elected and kept his promise of making America great again by withdrawing and leaving the rest of the world to its own devices. If stuff hits the fan in the subcontinent now, he may not even bother tweeting restraint immediately. The modern world’s oldest antagonists can set their region on fire now, without the comfort of the American/global fire truck waiting at our door.

This has also diminished, if not eliminated the subcontinent’s old leverage with the world: Come and stop us or we will nuke each other. Trump may be the one we blame, but there is generally a wariness about the region holding the world to ransom after claiming to be responsible nuclear weapons powers.

Of course, it applies much more to Pakistan than India. Because, in the subcontinent, the nukes are the preferred weapon of the weaker power, the likely loser. Beginning with V.P. Singh’s spineless year in 1990, Pakistan has used the nuclear deterrent entirely to its own advantage, keeping its provocations within that threshold, ruling out any sizeable retaliation from India. Obsession with tactical nukes tells us that the Pakistanis have probably not reviewed that position. If they haven’t, they will get a disastrous surprise. This Indian establishment no longer sees nukes as only one side’s deterrence. If you take chances with it, and that too in election weeks, you might as well have pulled that trigger.

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