zen Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 View overall figures [change view] Primary team India Opposition team Australia or England or New Zealand or Pakistan or South Africa or Sri Lanka or West Indies Start of match date greater than or equal to 1 Jan 1983 Trophy Benson & Hedges World Championship of Cricket or ICC Champions Trophy (ICC KnockOut) or ICC Cricket World Cup Qualifier (ICC Trophy) or ICC Development ODI Series or ICC Super Series ODIs or ICC World Cricket League or ICC World Cricket League Championship or MRF World Series (Nehru Cup) or World Cup Batting position between 1 and 2 Qualifications runs scored greater than or equal to 250 Ordered by batting strike rate (descending) Page 1 of 1 Showing 1 - 8 of 8 First Previous Next Last Return to query menu Cleared query menu Overall figures Player Span Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 0 V Sehwag 2002-2011 18 18 2 678 126 42.37 670 101.19 1 5 1 S Dhawan 2013-2017 13 13 1 919 137 76.58 933 98.49 4 4 0 SR Tendulkar 1996-2011 31 30 0 1548 141 51.60 1778 87.06 4 9 1 SC Ganguly 1998-2007 15 15 2 869 183 66.84 1040 83.55 4 2 1 SM Gavaskar 1983-1987 9 9 1 262 103* 32.75 320 81.87 1 1 0 RG Sharma 2013-2017 13 13 0 414 91 31.84 546 75.82 0 4 2 K Srikkanth 1983-1992 29 29 2 852 93* 31.55 1208 70.52 0 7 3 RJ Shastri 1983-1992 9 9 1 281 63* 35.12 581 48.36 0 4 0 Left handers, Dhawan and Ganguly, have a great average Sehwag ofcourse is the Bradman of SR Tendulkar and Gavaskar have done well too per their respective era After Tendulkar, Srikant has opened in most ICC and World Events If left handers do well for India, may be a case for Dhawan-Pant? Gollum and Jimmy Cliff 1 1 Link to comment
Gollum Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 Don't go by stats alone. Srikanth was immense in 1983 final against 4 pronged WI pace attack and right throughout 1985 WCC including final (top scorer, high SR). Even in 1987 he was quite good overall. Expected from SRT but Dada and Dhawan too deserve special praise. Shastri's SR though Link to comment
Gollum Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 Rohit and Kohli have a lot to prove in this WC. Great overall returns or something special in SF/F......then no one will question them. SK_IH 1 Link to comment
zen Posted February 19, 2019 Author Share Posted February 19, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Gollum said: Don't go by stats alone. Srikanth was immense in 1983 final against 4 pronged WI pace attack and right throughout 1985 WCC including final (top scorer, high SR). Even in 1987 he was quite good overall. Expected from SRT but Dada and Dhawan too deserve special praise. Shastri's SR though It is understood that Srikkant's stats are good as per the era he played in (mentioned Gavaskar's era to highlight the point) Shastri's SR is bad but some folks may say that he avgs higher than Rohit in such events. 35 20-30 years ago is better than 32 today Edited February 19, 2019 by zen Gollum 1 Link to comment
Gollum Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 (edited) 17 minutes ago, zen said: It is understood that Srikkant's stats are good as per the era he played in (mentioned Gavaskar's era to highlight the point) Shastri's SR is bad but some folks may say that he avgs higher than Rohit in such events. 35 20-30 years ago is better than 32 today I checked the stats. Srikanth consistently played at a faster pace than Greenidge, Haynes who had SR in 60-65 range. 1983, 87 WCs were played with red ball making opener's job that much more difficult...different strategy those days when survival was key in the 1st 15-20 overs against good/great quicks in tougher batting conditions. He struggled in the group stages of 1983 WC and the whole of 1992 WC where he played his final match. But in 1983 F, 1985 and 1987 his numbers will be like average 45, SR 80+ which is phenomenal for that era. Plus he delivered in the 2 big finals we won. Shastri played only for himself, what more to say about him? Edited February 19, 2019 by Gollum Link to comment
Gollum Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 @zen Is this thread a part of the greater war regarding Rohit Sharma that some of you guys have been busy with the last couple of days? If yes I will bring my popcorn and you guys have a blast. Link to comment
zen Posted February 19, 2019 Author Share Posted February 19, 2019 In fact, the top 3 averaging openers are left handers (quality ones) View overall figures [change view] Primary team Australia or England or India or New Zealand or Pakistan or South Africa or Sri Lanka or West Indies Opposition team Australia or England or New Zealand or Pakistan or South Africa or Sri Lanka or West Indies Start of match date greater than or equal to 1 Jan 1983 Trophy Benson & Hedges World Championship of Cricket or ICC Champions Trophy (ICC KnockOut) or ICC Cricket World Cup Qualifier (ICC Trophy) or ICC Development ODI Series or ICC Super Series ODIs or ICC World Cricket League or ICC World Cricket League Championship or MRF World Series (Nehru Cup) or World Cup Batting position between 1 and 2 Qualifications runs scored greater than or equal to 500 Ordered by batting average (descending) Page 1 of 1 Showing 1 - 20 of 20 First Previous Next Last Return to query menu Cleared query menu Overall figures Player Span Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 0 S Dhawan (INDIA) 2013-2017 13 13 1 919 137 76.58 933 98.49 4 4 0 SC Ganguly (INDIA) 1998-2007 15 15 2 869 183 66.84 1040 83.55 4 2 1 Saeed Anwar (PAK) 1996-2003 13 13 2 662 113* 60.18 841 78.71 3 3 0 HH Gibbs (SA) 1999-2009 12 12 0 658 143 54.83 828 79.46 3 3 1 Rameez Raja (PAK) 1987-1992 19 19 3 842 119* 52.62 1267 66.45 3 3 0 SR Tendulkar (INDIA) 1996-2011 31 30 0 1548 141 51.60 1778 87.06 4 9 1 GR Marsh (AUS) 1987-1992 12 12 1 503 126* 45.72 972 51.74 1 3 0 ML Hayden (AUS) 2002-2007 16 16 0 714 158 44.62 808 88.36 3 0 0 DL Haynes (WI) 1983-1992 24 23 3 880 138* 44.00 1442 61.02 3 1 0 TM Dilshan (SL) 2009-2015 15 15 1 606 108* 43.28 712 85.11 2 2 1 V Sehwag (INDIA) 2002-2011 18 18 2 678 126 42.37 670 101.19 1 5 1 MJ Guptill (NZ) 2009-2017 17 17 1 636 237* 39.75 705 90.21 1 2 0 GC Smith (SA) 2002-2011 20 20 1 740 141 38.94 854 86.65 1 4 1 ST Jayasuriya (SL) 1996-2009 30 30 3 1035 120 38.33 1136 91.10 3 4 2 GA Gooch (ENG) 1987-1992 18 18 0 683 92 37.94 1143 59.75 0 7 0 SP Fleming (NZ) 2002-2007 16 16 1 548 134* 36.53 728 75.27 1 3 2 CH Gayle (WI) 2002-2015 26 26 1 828 133* 33.12 919 90.09 2 3 1 WU Tharanga (SL) 2006-2017 17 17 1 514 102* 32.12 715 71.88 1 4 1 K Srikkanth (INDIA) 1983-1992 29 29 2 852 93* 31.55 1208 70.52 0 7 3 AC Gilchrist (AUS) 1999-2007 26 26 0 756 149 29.07 805 93.91 1 3 1 In terms of SR, Sehwag is the king. However, the next 3 are left handers: View overall figures [change view] Primary team Australia or England or India or New Zealand or Pakistan or South Africa or Sri Lanka or West Indies Opposition team Australia or England or New Zealand or Pakistan or South Africa or Sri Lanka or West Indies Start of match date greater than or equal to 1 Jan 1983 Trophy Benson & Hedges World Championship of Cricket or ICC Champions Trophy (ICC KnockOut) or ICC Cricket World Cup Qualifier (ICC Trophy) or ICC Development ODI Series or ICC Super Series ODIs or ICC World Cricket League or ICC World Cricket League Championship or MRF World Series (Nehru Cup) or World Cup Batting position between 1 and 2 Qualifications runs scored greater than or equal to 500 Ordered by batting strike rate (descending) Page 1 of 1 Showing 1 - 20 of 20 First Previous Next Last Return to query menu Cleared query menu Overall figures Player Span Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 0 V Sehwag (INDIA) 2002-2011 18 18 2 678 126 42.37 670 101.19 1 5 1 S Dhawan (INDIA) 2013-2017 13 13 1 919 137 76.58 933 98.49 4 4 0 AC Gilchrist (AUS) 1999-2007 26 26 0 756 149 29.07 805 93.91 1 3 1 ST Jayasuriya (SL) 1996-2009 30 30 3 1035 120 38.33 1136 91.10 3 4 2 MJ Guptill (NZ) 2009-2017 17 17 1 636 237* 39.75 705 90.21 1 2 0 CH Gayle (WI) 2002-2015 26 26 1 828 133* 33.12 919 90.09 2 3 1 ML Hayden (AUS) 2002-2007 16 16 0 714 158 44.62 808 88.36 3 0 0 SR Tendulkar (INDIA) 1996-2011 31 30 0 1548 141 51.60 1778 87.06 4 9 1 GC Smith (SA) 2002-2011 20 20 1 740 141 38.94 854 86.65 1 4 1 TM Dilshan (SL) 2009-2015 15 15 1 606 108* 43.28 712 85.11 2 2 1 SC Ganguly (INDIA) 1998-2007 15 15 2 869 183 66.84 1040 83.55 4 2 1 HH Gibbs (SA) 1999-2009 12 12 0 658 143 54.83 828 79.46 3 3 1 Saeed Anwar (PAK) 1996-2003 13 13 2 662 113* 60.18 841 78.71 3 3 0 SP Fleming (NZ) 2002-2007 16 16 1 548 134* 36.53 728 75.27 1 3 2 WU Tharanga (SL) 2006-2017 17 17 1 514 102* 32.12 715 71.88 1 4 1 K Srikkanth (INDIA) 1983-1992 29 29 2 852 93* 31.55 1208 70.52 0 7 3 Rameez Raja (PAK) 1987-1992 19 19 3 842 119* 52.62 1267 66.45 3 3 0 DL Haynes (WI) 1983-1992 24 23 3 880 138* 44.00 1442 61.02 3 1 0 GA Gooch (ENG) 1987-1992 18 18 0 683 92 37.94 1143 59.75 0 7 0 GR Marsh (AUS) 1987-1992 12 12 1 503 126* 45.72 972 51.74 1 3 0 Among the swashbucklers, Sehwag is ahead both in terms of avg and SR! Link to comment
zen Posted February 19, 2019 Author Share Posted February 19, 2019 (edited) 58 minutes ago, Gollum said: @zen Is this thread a part of the greater war regarding Rohit Sharma that some of you guys have been busy with the last couple of days? If yes I will bring my popcorn and you guys have a blast. Not really (and there is a thread on it but can make a point here and there)! .... I support Rohit .... but not his tuktuk .... and do not mind seeing someone like Pant open if the opportunity exists Edited February 19, 2019 by zen Link to comment
zen Posted February 19, 2019 Author Share Posted February 19, 2019 12 minutes ago, Gollum said: I checked the stats. Srikanth consistently played at a faster pace than Greenidge, Haynes who had SR in 60-65 range. 1983, 87 WC were played in red ball making opener's job that much more difficult...different strategy those days when survival was key in the 1st 15-20 overs against good/great quicks. He struggled in the group stages of 1983 WC and the whole of 1992 WC where he played his final match. But in 1983 F, 1985 and 1987 his numbers will be like average 45, SR 80+ which is phenomenal for that era. Plus he delivered in the 2 big finals we won. Shastri played only for himself, what more to say about him? Which is why you have to consider the era .... As for Shastri, he may have opened for the first time in B&H and then in Aus, where our batting was not clicking as expected. Nothing much to discuss. He is there on the stats thats about it Link to comment
zen Posted February 19, 2019 Author Share Posted February 19, 2019 (edited) In the WCs, Power Plays were introduced in 1992 and so were white ball and colored clothing iirc .... B&H had colored clothing and white ball (but no PPs or was it there?) Edited February 19, 2019 by zen Link to comment
zen Posted February 19, 2019 Author Share Posted February 19, 2019 Srikkant in early 90s (last leg of his career) Link to comment
Nikola Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 Not fault of Rohit that he got bangladesh to face in quarter final of 2015 worldcup which is knockout match too. They got 3 wickets before 100 runs. Even in 2017 semi final he faced bangladesh and scored 100. Failed in both wc 2015 semi final & ct 2017 final but all failed with him too. You will exclude bangladesh because they are minnows but they have reached quarter & semi final and finals in major tournament in recent time but that 2015 knock in quarter final was surely very important. Link to comment
Nikola Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 Got no time recently due to bit work but i am going to dig alot random stats soon and will make thread. I can make same bradmans of strike rates look avg batsman with those stat and in next thread make any avg batsman look bradman. Link to comment
zen Posted February 19, 2019 Author Share Posted February 19, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Nikola said: Got no time recently due to bit work but i am going to dig alot random stats soon and will make thread. I can make same bradmans of strike rates look avg batsman with those stat and in next thread make any avg batsman look bradman. Please don’t make it about Rohit unnecessarily in every thread Edited February 19, 2019 by zen Link to comment
Nikola Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 Just now, zen said: Please don’t bring Rohit unnecessarily in every thread Come on i know why you are doing this. Ask yourself how hard you worked on to get stats of match where he failed and other succeeded. I didn't care much at start but since you started throwing random stats i am not going to stop now. Link to comment
zen Posted February 19, 2019 Author Share Posted February 19, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Nikola said: Come on i know why you are doing this. Ask yourself how hard you worked on to get stats of match where he failed and other succeeded. I didn't care much at start but since you started throwing random stats i am not going to stop now. I have been doing stats on sports for years as a hobby .... Anyways, if you have something interesting to post on cricket let me know (rather than making everything about Rohit) Edited February 19, 2019 by zen Link to comment
Jimmy Cliff Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 I wonder why we are looking at these numbers from 1983? Link to comment
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