Let's keep track of number of dot balls wasted by Rohit Sharma in each innings.

[chewy]

3 hours ago, vvvslaxman said:

Exactly. Not sure when some will realize India has the worst late order power hitting. Even Afghanistan Nabi, Rashid khan can produce more impact down the order than these guys.   There is no Yuvi or Raina or Old Dhoni to accelerate in death. Pandya is our savior who misses half the matches, also doesn't accelerate against seamers like say a Russell, Grandhomme etc. Indian top order  are required to perform build the innings all the way upto the end and accelerate as well. Even SHankar is technically not suited to accelerate at the death. He is better served in the middle overs. Even if India is 260/3 at 40th over they will collapse and produce an under par score like we saw against Hongkong.

 

 

 

 

 

That's a sorry looking table, I knew it was bad but to score less than run a ball! That's pathetic.

Putting world cup aside, a top ODI side should easily scoring 7+ rpo last ten overs (batting first)

 

It's just embarssing being below Bangla and SL

[mishra]

This thread reminds me of that episode from Simpsons where he is made boss of Nuclear Power Plant by James Bond Villain who asks him to come up with a plan increase the output.

So what does Simpson do. Ask employees "Can you work harder?"

[chewy]

It's probably too late to try out new players, but for late order power India will have to go with Jadhav, Shankar and Pandya. Dhoni has got the power game these days (from ball 1).

As long 2 out of these 3 fire (quick 30-40s at 150  plus SR) India should be set 300 plus score with ease. 

 

If India is to win world cup this time, it will be the bowlers

[zen]

3 minutes ago, chewy said:

That's a sorry looking table, I knew it was bad but to score less than run a ball! That's pathetic.

Putting world cup aside, a top ODI side should easily scoring 7+ rpo last ten overs (batting first)

 

It's just embarssing being below Bangla and SL

 It is 2018 where Ind chased low scores in many of its game. For e.g. in Asia Cup, Ind chased scores of 252 or less. Only on one occasion it batted first to score 285  

[zen]

1 minute ago, chewy said:

It's probably too late to try out new players, but for late order power India will have to go with Jadhav, Shankar and Pandya. Dhoni has got the power game these days (from ball 1).

As long 2 out of these 3 fire (quick 30-40s at 150  plus SR) India should be set 300 plus score with ease. 

 

If India is to win world cup this time, it will be the bowlers

They can increase there chances of firing if they get relatively more balls to play too .... which is one of the reasons why tuktuk has to play at a high SR 

Edited March 11, 2019 by zen

[vvvslaxman]

You can't turn a dog into an elephant by giving more food lol 

[zen]

After the mauling at the hands of Kangaroos, who won T20s and took the series to the last game in ODIs, let’s hope TM asks Tuktuk to get off the blocks quickly 

 

 

[jusarrived]

1 minute ago, zen said:

Let’s not also forget that lower down batsmen are trying to hit both good and bad balls, which is relatively difficult 

Am tired of saying this . We had Raina and to an extent Yuvi , only 2 players who got their timing perfect from the first ball . Every one else takes time , which is fine ...but what I really hate is some here criticising youngsters with no match practice for not scoring quickly , but on the other hand they are singing praises of a senior player who takes a minimum of 100 balls to settle down on a flat pitch . 

 

 

[mishra]

We gave away 182 in 17.5 overs at a RR of 10.12

[zen]

20 minutes ago, jusarrived said:

Am tired of saying this . We had Raina and to an extent Yuvi , only 2 players who got their timing perfect from the first ball . Every one else takes time , which is fine ...but what I really hate is some here criticising youngsters with no match practice for not scoring quickly , but on the other hand they are singing praises of a senior player who takes a minimum of 100 balls to settle down on a flat pitch . 

Absolutely, a 90 ball 90 with 0 wkts down on such a pitch tells me that the batsman was mainly seeking to put the bad balls away .... Contrast that with those batting down the order, who not only have relatively less time to settle down, but also have to go after both good and bad balls .... In fact, the batsmen lower down have limited options (unless you play like past his best Dhoni) .... Now if Pant or Shankar got the opportunity to play 90 balls in the fashion Tuktuk does, they could have done much better w/ Ind near 400 runs mark than 350 (to safeguard bowlers and fielders against dew) .... Let's not forget how relatively poorly Tuktuk has done as a MO batsman 

 

Pant, Shankar and Pandya, all 3 have better potential as test batsmen than Tuktuk Sharma. And have the game to succeed in ODIs. Pant and Pandya even in T20s. Pandya even plays quicks well like we saw him handle Boult in NZ for e.g.  

 

If Tuktuk Sharma is struggling in bowling friendly conditions and wasting balls in batting friendly ones. Pant, Shankar or Pandya for e.g. can do a much better job opening for India. I would not be surprised to see a 60 balls 100 being hit by either Pant or Pandya in such conditions  

 

 

 

 

Edited March 11, 2019 by zen

[helperononline]

Lol someone check dhoni's dot ball stats before pouncing on Rohit I am sure you will get heart attack 

[rkt.india]

3 hours ago, Lannister said:

Maybe that is the reason we lost. But Sharma's dot ball percentage is on a different range. 

What are you talking about? Kohli scored 122 of 95 balls. Dots are irrelevant in big picture. Modern cricket is more about 4s and 6s.

[zen]

4 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

What are you talking about? Kohli scored 122 of 95 balls. Dots are irrelevant in big picture. Modern cricket is more about 4s and 6s.

It is about how you manage your SR. On such surfaces, you need to get off the blocks quickly 

[nevada]

Not all dot balls are bad. Dot balls against hittable deliveries is the problem. And Rohit has plenty of those each innings. Playing out a maiden against Maxi was so pathetic to watch the other day. It looks like he is set in his mind that he needs to block the first 25-30 balls he faces regardless of the wicket and the line and length of the delivery. This puts pressure on his partner and makes life easier for the opposition. 

Edited March 11, 2019 by nevada

[Straight Drive]

Rahul and Jadhav batted with strike rate 83. All others had  strike rate over 100 in yesterday's match.

 

[zen]

1 minute ago, nevada said:

Not all dot balls are bad. Dot balls against hittable deliveries is the problem. And Rohit has plenty of those each innings. Playing out a maiden against Maxi was so pathetic to watch the other day. It looks like he is set in his mind that he needs to block the first 25-30 balls he faces regardless of the wicket and the length and length of the delivery. This puts pressure on his partner and makes life easier for the opposition. 

And that is not normal cricket 

[zen]

9 minutes ago, Straight Drive said:

Rahul and Jadhav batted with strike rate 83. All others had  strike rate over 100 in yesterday's match.

Rahul made a comeback though, while Jadhav only played 10-12 balls iirc .... On the other hand, you have a guy, who plays regularly and played 90 balls w/o making desired impact (despite having the luxury of opening the inning) 

Edited March 11, 2019 by zen

[Straight Drive]

6 minutes ago, zen said:

Rahul made a comeback though, while Jadhav only played 10-12 balls iirc .... On the other hand, you have a guy, who plays regularly and played 90 balls w/o making desired impact (despite having the luxury of opening the inning) 

Rahul has LIST A average of 34. His ODI average of 34 too is inline of what he has done in LIST A.

 

Sharma scored 95 from 92 balls. It is a good innings. Both openers put on 193 runs. Be it individual innings by openers  or the partnerships, they did their job. It was pathetic fielding that cost us the match. I would not blame the bowlers when stumpings are missed and catches are dropped.

[zen]

7 minutes ago, Straight Drive said:

Rahul has LIST A average of 34. His ODI average of 34 too is inline of what he has done in LIST A.

It can be difficult for someone playing his first game in a series esp. when you have been in and out 

 

 

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Sharma scored 95 from 92 balls. It is a good innings. Both openers put on 193 runs. Be it individual innings by openers  or the partnerships, they did their job. It was pathetic fielding that cost us the match. I would not blame the bowlers when stumpings are missed and catches are dropped.

Already written about "usefulness" of such innings on a 350-400 runs track with 0 wkts down 

Edited March 11, 2019 by zen

[Straight Drive]

12 minutes ago, zen said:

It can be difficult for someone playing his first game in a series esp. when you have been in and out 

 

 

Already written about "usefulness" of such innings on a 350-400 runs track with 0 wkts down 

Shankar has played lesser matches than Rahul. Yet he is making most of the chances, whereas Rahul isn't. Shankar could also flop and give the excuses but he isn't doing.

 

If this was 400 batting track then what did Rahul and Jadhav do. In that case their performances should come under scanner.