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5 minutes ago, Nikola said:

It wasn't selfish. He is just unable to rotate strike in powerplay or play against spinners these days. 

Rohit's batting is selfish. I am not advocating dropping him since he is one of the best amongst current ODI openers. He plays with same approach no matter pitch, conditions, bowlers or teams. He doesn't play according to the merit of the ball. It's clear his safety first approach and not team first.

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11 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

More then these innings what concerning me is how fat he is getting and i said few yrs back it will start to affect his game as he grows old. His fielding effort can demoralize team players and this guy is suppose to be our next captain 

He'll be kicked out before brat is replaced as the LO captain.

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1 minute ago, Pollack said:

Rohit's batting is selfish. I am not advocating dropping him since he is one of the best amongst current ODI openers. He plays with same approach no matter pitch, conditions, bowlers or teams. He doesn't play according to the merit of the ball. It's clear his safety first approach and not team first.

That approach is in powerplays. He is unable to play even after plowerplay overs these days. If he can't make himself fit i will drop him for first few matches and play someone else. Issue is even dhawan has been found out so it's about who is worst these days.

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1 minute ago, Clarke said:

He seems to assume Dhoni's tuk tuk responsibility in his absence. Last game, he started accelerating after 25+ overs while we had lost no wickets.

Are you seriously suggesting Rohit is the culprit here?

 

6.5 in the last 14 with 5 wickets down should be chased by any half-decent squad.

 

He more than held one end when others were falling around him.

 

Look not a match winning knock by any stretch of imagination but least of our problems 

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43 minutes ago, Pollack said:

Rohit's batting is selfish. I am not advocating dropping him since he is one of the best amongst current ODI openers. He plays with same approach no matter pitch, conditions, bowlers or teams. He doesn't play according to the merit of the ball. It's clear his safety first approach and not team first.

 

as far as batsmen at the other end is scoring , i am ok with it ..

no need to go full retard from both the ends ..

 

anywya i agree that he eats way too many balls in the beginning 

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Hitman has gained too much weight and can barely run.   Not good sign before the WC.  I think his good performance in the asia cup made him very complacent.  And he thinks he is irreplaceable as an opener.  TM now has more questions than answers. 

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1 minute ago, maniac said:

Are you seriously suggesting Rohit is the culprit here?

 

6.5 in the last 14 with 5 wickets down should be chased by any half-decent squad.

 

He more than held one end when others were falling around him.

 

Look not a match winning knock by any stretch of imagination but least of our problems 

I didn't say anything on those lines. I just commented on his style of batting which is quite accurate. I'm yet to watch game highlights to draw conclusions on match ka mujrim.

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2 minutes ago, maniac said:

Are you seriously suggesting Rohit is the culprit here?

 

6.5 in the last 14 with 5 wickets down should be chased by any half-decent squad.

 

He more than held one end when others were falling around him.

 

Look not a match winning knock by any stretch of imagination but least of our problems 

Untested squad because the top 3 hog all the limelight on flat tracks. 

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12 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

this guy is suppose to be our next captain 

If a 30+ year old player is considered your next captain, who is a complete failure in Test cricket, then there's no future to Indian Cricket. 

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12 hours ago, Nikola said:

It wasn't selfish. He is just unable to rotate strike in powerplay or play against spinners these days. 

Of course it's a selfish way to play your innings as others don't have this kind of luxury. 

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29 minutes ago, Lannister said:

If a 30+ year old player is considered your next captain, who is a complete failure in Test cricket, then there's no future to Indian Cricket. 

test failure has nothing to do with ODI captaincy, morgan captains england he doesnt even have a place in test side

Didnt dravid n kumble also became captain after 30, 30+ is also not an issue . 

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26 minutes ago, Lannister said:

Of course it's a selfish way to play your innings as others don't have this kind of luxury. 

It was all good till pant was playing. If you look when he got out required run rate was below 6. Yesterday someone had to play selfish knock if we had to win. Kohli or Dhawan didn't so it's their mistake.

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14 minutes ago, Nikola said:

It was all good till pant was playing. If you look when he got out required run rate was below 6. Yesterday someone had to play selfish knock if we had to win. Kohli or Dhawan didn't so it's their mistake.

really? this doesn't make any sense. At least try n get regular singles. Also the onus was on him yesterday to game deep and build a partnership but he tried a hoick after playing series of dots even from someone like Maxwell. If thats what Rohit can do then there is not much difference between peak Rohit and washed up Dhoni in a chase

Someone like Virat gets occasional boundaries in a chase and never relies on his partner to maintain the rate. .

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1 hour ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

test failure has nothing to do with ODI captaincy, morgan captains england he doesnt even have a place in test side

 

Morgan has been leading their team for 3-4 years now. England have been developing him for this year's World cup. Sharma's time is up already as he don't even deserve to play as a batsman let alone as a captain. 

 

1 hour ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

 Didnt dravid n kumble also became captain after 30, 30+ is also not an issue . 

Kumble mostly captained in Test format which is acceptable for that age and he was an all-format player. Sharma don't even come into the picture as for captaincy goes. 

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1 hour ago, Nikola said:

It was all good till pant was playing. If you look when he got out required run rate was below 6. Yesterday someone had to play selfish knock if we had to win. Kohli or Dhawan didn't so it's their mistake.

And he failed in the end. How many times has that happened for him? 

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17 hours ago, velu said:

 

as far as batsmen at the other end is scoring , i am ok with it ..

no need to go full retard from both the ends ..

 

anywya i agree that he eats way too many balls in the beginning 

in a chase its fine to anchor an innings as long you stay till the end and finish off the job . 

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After making something like 12(31) in powerplay he won't be able to convert it into 95(92) like the previous Mohali ODI eachtime. That is why this approach is risky. His fitness has really become an issue & definitely playing a big part in the way he's constructing his innings lately.

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1 hour ago, jusarrived said:

in a chase its fine to anchor an innings as long you stay till the end and finish off the job . 

That's old school Dhoni, when he had Yuvraj or Raina at the other end, thinking :facepalm:

 

All it does is balloon the run rate up & we lose 9 out of 10 times, the best way to chase is to keep up or ahead of the RR always!

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1 hour ago, jusarrived said:

in a chase its fine to anchor an innings as long you stay till the end and finish off the job . 

Zamana badal gaya hai. Cricket evolved from 80s style to 90s style to 2000 style to 2010s to now. 

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10 minutes ago, CSK Fan said:

Zamana badal gaya hai. Cricket evolved from 80s style to 90s style to 2000 style to 2010s to now. 

 

 

17 minutes ago, R!TTER said:

That's old school Dhoni, when he had Yuvraj or Raina at the other end, thinking :facepalm:

 

All it does is balloon the run rate up & we lose 9 out of 10 times, the best way to chase is to keep up or ahead of the RR always!

 

Yes true , but we where chasing only 280 here , anything less than 300 you can still go old school as its easier to make up 20-30 runs in last 10 with wickets in hand . 

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On normal pitches, when the pitch is slowing down/keeping low or turning square you need to go bang bang in PP but TM aur fat ass ko kaun samjhaye :cantstop:

 

They play the same way in T20, ODI & sometimes tests as well 

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Unless Ind wants to turn a 50 overs game into a 40 overs one, it is better off opening with anyone except Rohit, who does not look inclined to change his approach 

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9 hours ago, Lannister said:

Morgan has been leading their team for 3-4 years now. England have been developing him for this year's World cup. Sharma's time is up already as he don't even deserve to play as a batsman let alone as a captain. 

sharma avg 50+ in last 5 yrs if that guys doesnt deserve to play god knws who does

9 hours ago, Lannister said:

 

Kumble mostly captained in Test format which is acceptable for that age and he was an all-format player. Sharma don't even come into the picture as for captaincy goes. 

Their is nowere written that u cant captain a loi side if ur 30+, dravid became captain after he was 30+

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13 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

sharma avg 50+ in last 5 yrs if that guys doesnt deserve to play god knws who does

Their is nowere written that u cant captain a loi side if ur 30+, dravid became captain after he was 30+

He gets the best opportunity as an opener. While he makes the most of it, it hurts the team. Sooner or later we will realise this approach is wrong. A strong middle order with higher averages will always work better than openers with high averages, because a strong middle order allows openers to go berserk or at least play freely.

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1 minute ago, Haarkarjeetgaye said:

He gets the best opportunity as an opener. While he makes the most of it, it hurts the team. Sooner or later we will realise this approach is wrong. A strong middle order with higher averages will always work better than openers with high averages, because a strong middle order allows openers to go berserk or at least play freely.

And how many openers have 3 200s, record number of 175+ scores, 4 T20I 100s across the world?

 

All these teams have played on pattas and against weak bowling one time or the other.

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4 minutes ago, Haarkarjeetgaye said:

He gets the best opportunity as an opener. While he makes the most of it, it hurts the team. Sooner or later we will realise this approach is wrong. A strong middle order with higher averages will always work better than openers with high averages, because a strong middle order allows openers to go berserk or at least play freely.

he gets the opp as opener, he makes runs....team looses to team Chu*** hai na 

We have to stop expecting flawless players

sehwag had s/r but lacked consistency 

Rohit has consistency but s/r is good 

 

erre u wont get everything in everyone...its about having the best of whats avl 

We dont have a strong middle order lets sought that 1st ......rohit n dhawan are least of our problems

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15 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

he gets the opp as opener, he makes runs....team looses to team Chu*** hai na 

We have to stop expecting flawless players

sehwag had s/r but lacked consistency 

Rohit has consistency but s/r is good 

 

erre u wont get everything in everyone...its about having the best of whats avl 

We dont have a strong middle order lets sought that 1st ......rohit n dhawan are least of our problems

I am not saying he is bad. The way he bats is best suited for the middle order in modern day ODI cricket. I am certain he will do good if he gets aggressive as an opener. Same applies to Shikhar too. I am talking about trying to be 60-80 runs after 10 overs depending on the pitch and ok to lose 1 or 2 wickets. It is an approach I am talking about. Right now we do like 50 for 0. In the middle overs if Rohit and Dhawan can take singles, so can Dhoni, Rayudu,Pandya.

If Rohit and Dhawan are still their in the middle overs, its because they were cautious as openers and the middle order remains untested.

 

We will not be able to build a middle order if the top 3 keep batting always.

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Don't think it was selfish. It was under confident knock, with cautious approach and also ensuring he holds one end since Kohli, Pant and Dhawan went early. Indeed all that mixture makes it worthwhile to debate whether he is just tuk-tuking and playing pathetically. Well he has had series of low scores but this wasn't a selfish knock by any means.

 

He has been bit out of touch, fitness hasn't been great shows class once in a while, and hence it looks a bit ordinary knock. Rest assured, don't think he is being selfish anywhere. Its a common approach taken by players who are struggling a bit and then also have pressure of decider game. 

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1 minute ago, Cricketics said:

Don't think it was selfish. It was under confident knock, with cautious approach and also ensuring he holds one end since Kohli, Pant and Dhawan went early. Indeed all that mixture makes it worthwhile to debate whether he is just tuk-tuking and playing pathetically. Well he has had series of low scores but this wasn't a selfish knock by any means.

 

He has been bit out of touch, fitness hasn't been great shows class once in a while, and hence it looks a bit ordinary knock. Rest assured, don't think he is being selfish anywhere. Its a common approach taken by players who are struggling a bit and then also have pressure of decider game. 

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13 hours ago, Lannister said:

If a 30+ year old player is considered your next captain, who is a complete failure in Test cricket, then there's no future to Indian Cricket. 

Next captain will most likely be a younger player who will come through soon .... Tuktuk is VC atm and therefore part of the what is good and bad about the current TM. He would lead a few games here and there if Kohli takes a break but that is about it .... also captaincy is not likely to be taken away from Kohli in the near future .... Tuktuk’s position in the team is likely to be questioned esp. if he is regressing. MI could go for a new captain too in the future

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35 minutes ago, Haarkarjeetgaye said:

I am not saying he is bad. The way he bats is best suited for the middle order in modern day ODI cricket. I am certain he will do good if he gets aggressive as an opener. Same applies to Shikhar too. I am talking about trying to be 60-80 runs after 10 overs depending on the pitch and ok to lose 1 or 2 wickets. It is an approach I am talking about. Right now we do like 50 for 0. In the middle overs if Rohit and Dhawan can take singles, so can Dhoni, Rayudu,Pandya.

If Rohit and Dhawan are still their in the middle overs, its because they were cautious as openers and the middle order remains untested.

 

We will not be able to build a middle order if the top 3 keep batting always.

On flat pitches, don't forget that - elsewhere on tricky surfaces our top 3 are blown away just as any other top order in the world, so why do some of us say we have the best top order atm :hmpf:

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4 minutes ago, R!TTER said:

On flat pitches, don't forget that - elsewhere on tricky surfaces our top 3 are blown away just as any other top order in the world, so why do some of us say we have the best top order atm :hmpf:

Exactly .

Slow on flat pitches and unreliable on difficult ones , am surprised most people don’t see a problem in our top order . This was always an easy fix , there are dozens of quality Indian bats who can do a better job . Anyway it’s too late now 

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1 hour ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

he gets the opp as opener, he makes runs....team looses to team Chu*** hai na 

We have to stop expecting flawless players

sehwag had s/r but lacked consistency 

Rohit has consistency but s/r is good 

 

erre u wont get everything in everyone...its about having the best of whats avl 

We dont have a strong middle order lets sought that 1st ......rohit n dhawan are least of our problems

Rohit is anything but consistent . I would have taken his slow ininnigs if he was reliable holding one end when we are under pressure . 

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3 minutes ago, jusarrived said:

Exactly .

Slow on flat pitches and unreliable on difficult ones , am surprised most people don’t see a problem in our top order . This was always an easy fix , there are dozens of quality Indian bats who can do a better job . Anyway it’s too late now 

They see the problem but pretend not to due to hero worshipping culture in Ind. Supporting = doing duty. Don’t forget people even build temples for “stars” in India :lol:

 

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1 minute ago, zen said:

They see the problem but pretend not to due to hero worshipping culture in Ind. Supporting = doing duty. Don’t forget people even build temples for starts in India :lol:

That’s true . Am fairly sure even if it costs us the WC , some of them will be still in denial as long as their favourite player has scored runs at a snails pace even if it’s against Bangla or SL 

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