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Apparently the shooting gunman yelled to subscribe to PewDiePie.

The same PewDiePie who mocked Pulwama terror attack a couple of days ago on his now deleted video to gain Pakistani following under his ongoing feud with T series.

Let's unsubscribe this racist , bigoted person who has many times in the past generalized Indians.

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3 minutes ago, Stradlater said:

Apparently the shooting gunman yelled to subscribe to PewDiePie.

The same PewDiePie who mocked Pulwama terror attack a couple of days ago on his now deleted video to gain Pakistani following under his ongoing feud with T series.

Let's unsubscribe this racist , bigoted person who has many times in the past generalized Indians.

Pewdipie used to make walthrough for extreme horror games with comedy commentary because otherwise those games were too scary for some folks to play by themselves, that's how he gained popularity, but now his videos are about random stuff even if he makes huge money.

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4 minutes ago, Stradlater said:

Thing is though bro that white supremacists have existed long before Islamophobia was even a thing. Today it's Muslims , tomorrow it might be us Dharmic people. They consider all human beings with skin colour not pale as beneath them.

And thanks to the trend in western countries, this is only gonna get worse. 90% of liberal white people dont have kids.

and they are like 60-70% of white people in almost all countries not named USA (where its closer to 50-50). Its mostly the conservative white people who have kids, but 90% of these are the drunk truck trivers/farmers/wife-beating carpenters and stuff. 


So if you walk in Canadian or US universities, even amongst the no-name ones where foreign students don't go, 90% of the STEM fields are East Asians & Indians, with some Latinos, Africans and eastern Europeans mixed in. Only 10% are local white Canadian/American people. 

(This btw, is exactly the opposite in the arts stuff - its full of white people).  So a few of the 'dumb but cunning' type racist white folks are strarting to realize ' OMG, the browns/yellows are gonna take over the high paying jobs AND grow bigger and bigger as we literally not breed and show ourselves outta the door'.....

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1 hour ago, Stradlater said:

Apparently the shooting gunman yelled to subscribe to PewDiePie.

The same PewDiePie who mocked Pulwama terror attack a couple of days ago on his now deleted video to gain Pakistani following under his ongoing feud with T series.

Let's unsubscribe this racist , bigoted person who has many times in the past generalized Indians.

Really? What did he say?

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Looks like one of the four terrorist arrested and is an Australian and known white supremacist 

 

On side note, recently read in the UK last year out of nearly 400 arrests under terror laws 60% were white suspects linked to white extreme far right

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4 minutes ago, Muloghonto said:

then you too shall have it coming when some jaahil hindu goes bang bang over some random cow stuff. 

Two entirely different cases and I am a Vegetarian. I'd rather don't want to see cows getting slaughtered. People can still survive on other things without having to resort to beef. 

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1 minute ago, Lannister said:

Two entirely different cases and I am a Vegetarian. I'd rather don't want to see cows getting slaughtered. People can still survive on other things without having to resort to beef. 

No, not at all different. Matters not what you are. If 'muslims had it comming' randomly because of some extremist muslim thousands of kms away doing something, then stands to reason, by same standards, normal hindu like you too have it comming when you get shot in the face by a jihadi because some random saffron chaddi beat a muslim to death over some damn cow. 


This is what collective punishment and failure to adhere to individual responsibility means. 

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1 hour ago, MechEng said:

Pewdipie used to make walthrough for extreme horror games with comedy commentary because otherwise those games were too scary for some folks to play by themselves, that's how he gained popularity, but now his videos are about random stuff even if he makes huge money.

PDP should be banned in India, he's a casual racist (if not full on) takes pleasure bashing India & sound more & more like Trump each passing day. In fact you'd get brain cancer quicker than watching Trump in full retard mode, what's more infuriating is that lots of Indians tolerate that sh!thole for some reason :whack2:

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3 minutes ago, Muloghonto said:

No, not at all different. Matters not what you are. If 'muslims had it comming' randomly because of some extremist muslim thousands of kms away doing something, then stands to reason, by same standards, normal hindu like you too have it comming when you get shot in the face by a jihadi because some random saffron chaddi beat a muslim to death over some damn cow. 


This is what collective punishment and failure to adhere to individual responsibility means. 

So now the reason for terrorism in India, is because we took away their favorite food "beef"? :lol:

 

If some Hindu nutcase is using my religion for wrong doings, I feel responsible and do whatever in my part to stop these scums. The concept of Muslim terrorism didn't came yesterday, so what have these people doing in the last two decades to curb this? 

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Terrorism in India is mostly a Pak thing, the theory of 2 nations - 2 religions is the biggest reason why we've spent 7 decades fighting each other, crushing each other toes & getting nowhere. Who benefited in the end - the ever green "worse than Nazi" Brits, US & now China. If only Pak could get over this Kashmir obsession, but alas :hmpf:

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23 minutes ago, Stradlater said:

Gunman asked people to subscribe to PewDiePie's channel.

I mean what did PewDiePie say about that terrorist attack that took place to gain pak support and followers

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10 minutes ago, Lannister said:

So now the reason for terrorism in India, is because we took away their favorite food "beef"? :lol:

 

If some Hindu nutcase is using my religion for wrong doings, I feel responsible and do whatever in my part to stop these scums. The concept of Muslim terrorism didn't came yesterday, so what have these people doing in the last two decades to curb this? 

Am actually curious to know what would be the type of action that you would take vs thousands of illogical armed men who are devoted to the same religion as you are but misuses it. 

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18 minutes ago, speed_thrills said:

Well well so to draw fake equivalence you are going to compare some cattle violence in some far flung villages to being summary executed en mass for not being Muslim. Not engaging with this senile uncle from now on.

There is no fake equivalence being drawn here. 
If random muslim had it coming because another unrelated, random muslim killed a bunch of white people, then its perfectly equitable to say a random hindu, also has it coming because another unrelated, random hindu beat a muslim to death over some cow. 

This is pretty straightforward, really if you wish to justify violence against random people based on what they identify their faith as.
But then again, i dont expect people who spend their entire life in the third world to get what is so wrong about collective punishment. They usually don't know better. 

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15 minutes ago, Lannister said:

So now the reason for terrorism in India, is because we took away their favorite food "beef"? :lol:

Nope. 

Not what was said, read again. 

15 minutes ago, Lannister said:

If some Hindu nutcase is using my religion for wrong doings, I feel responsible and do whatever in my part to stop these scums.

So what have you done about hindu nut-cases who've beaten people to death over some random cow being slaughtered ? 
What have you done about hindu nut cases who've assaulted girls in public for hanging out with boys ? (which is not illegal in India) 

15 minutes ago, Lannister said:

The concept of Muslim terrorism didn't came yesterday, so what have these people doing in the last two decades to curb this? 

Explain to me what you expect a random muslim to do to 'stop this' re: terrorism from the fanatics ?! 

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15 minutes ago, R!TTER said:

Terrorism in India is mostly a Pak thing, the theory of 2 nations - 2 religions is the biggest reason why we've spent 7 decades fighting each other, crushing each other toes & getting nowhere. Who benefited in the end - the ever green "worse than Nazi" Brits, US & now China. If only Pak could get over this Kashmir obsession, but alas :hmpf:

Hindu's and muslim had been fighting for over 1000 years , it is not just we have spent 7 decades fighting with each other.

 

The 2 nation theory was not the cause ,. The cause is rag tag implementation of two nation theory and obsession of congress leaders to keep hindu's and muslims side by side. 

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7 minutes ago, Singh bling said:

Hindu's and muslim had been fighting for over 1000 years , it is not just we have spent 7 decades fighting with each other.

 

The 2 nation theory was not the cause ,. The cause is rag tag implementation of two nation theory and obsession of congress leaders to keep hindu's and muslims side by side. 

We also lived with each other for 1200-1300 years. Under Hindu rule, Muslim rule as one - there are still close to 250 million Muslims in India. How does that prove anything but that 2 nation theory was flawed? Heck if Congress & Nehru agreed to some form of power sharing we wouldn't have had Pak, possibly something along the lines of present day J&K.

 

Total peace is not possible even in the west, but this obsession about everything India (or Pak) wouldn't have been there saving us billions in arms purchases - which could then be diverted for development. It's no surprise that the most prosperous nations on earth haven't fought war over the last century or so.

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8 minutes ago, Zero_Unit said:

Am actually curious to know what would be the type of action that you would take vs thousands of illogical armed men who are devoted to the same religion as you are but misuses it. 

Like informing the concerned authorities if you see any suspicious activities with in their own communities and most importantly, educating their children. Forcing your government to take actions against these culprits. How many options do you want? 

 

Why do you think Muslim is the only religion which is despised in the whole world and you don't see such problems in other cultures? Because their whole system is rotten to the core and they never take responsibility. 

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Just now, Lannister said:

Like informing the concerned authorities if you see any suspicious activities with in their own communities and most importantly, educating their children. Forcing your government to take actions against these culprits. How many options do you want? 

 

Why do you think Muslim is the only religion which is despised in the whole world and you don't see such problems in other cultures? Because their whole system is rotten to the core and they never take responsibility. 

Being an atheist opens your eye up to many religious beliefs/hatered and other bs, your post is a prime example. What you mentioned, easier said than done bud. You don't relinquish a stupid ideology that easily. Let's take one example: How do you plan on educating their children when they flee to terrorist land and make babies there and in return those babies are terrorist future army? It's a never ending factory. Or Infact how do you know for a 100% fact what they are being influenced with outside of their home - assuming the parents are not terrorist themselves. Do you know how easy it is to brain wash a kid - if tidepod episode didn't show you that, I don't know what will.

 

Do you know which religion was hated before the Muslims? Christianity would be your prime choice. If history had taught us anything, Christians were as brutal as the present Muslim terrorist. Burning a women alive because you're though to be a witch vs stoning a women to death for adultery. If you ask me, both ranks as psychotic.

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13 minutes ago, Lannister said:

Like informing the concerned authorities if you see any suspicious activities with in their own communities and most importantly, educating their children. Forcing your government to take actions against these culprits. How many options do you want? 

How does a random muslim prove to you that they've done this ?!? 

How does a random Hindu like you prove that you have 'taken action' against the 'cow related murderers'/ 'modesty assaulters' ?!

 

13 minutes ago, Lannister said:

Why do you think Muslim is the only religion which is despised in the whole world and you don't see such problems in other cultures? Because their whole system is rotten to the core and they never take responsibility. 

I don't see very many hindus taking responsibility for random hindu murderers who kill for a frigging animal. Or assault women for dressing in western clothing.

I don't see very many Buddhist apologizing for the Burmese buddhists who kill Rohingyas.

I don't see very many Christians apologizing for Christian priests raping kids.


Here's a hint- people don't apologize for random people they don't know. So why the * are you justifying killing random people for something they had no individual part in ?!?

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Unfortunately, such incidents will only increase in the future. Look at the shooters background. Working class, low income white who feels that he has been robbed of a good life and blames his shortcomings on refugees from 3rd world countries. There are atleast a dozen people I know who would fit that profile. It’s just that they are not upfront about it. 

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https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/amp.news.com.au/national/queensland/politics/politician-lashes-out-at-muslims-after-christchurch-shootings-they-are-the-perpetrators/news-story/8e3f11fe73821dc3e65d75432ac76f2e

 

This is beyond stupid. In a time of crisis this moron had this to say - 

Queensland Senator Fraser Anning 

"The real cause of bloodshed on New Zealand streets today is the immigration program

which allowed Muslim fanatics to migrate to New Zealand in the first place.”

:bird:

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28 minutes ago, R!TTER said:

We also lived with each other for 1200-1300 years. Under Hindu rule, Muslim rule as one - there are still close to 250 million Muslims in India. How does that prove anything but that 2 nation theory was flawed? Heck if Congress & Nehru agreed to some form of power sharing we wouldn't have had Pak, possibly something along the lines of present day J&K.

 

Total peace is not possible even in the west, but this obsession about everything India (or Pak) wouldn't have been there saving us billions in arms purchases - which could then be diverted for development. It's no surprise that the most prosperous nations on earth haven't fought war over the last century or so.

Yeah if you believe that  Mandirs being broken , Hindu's taken as slaves or forcibly converted. Preferable treatment to muslims and converts , while jaziya from hindu's are some of  examples living side by side. I don't think  even muslim league had problem if hindu's accepted it before partition. 

 

Look at Europe , German territory was given to poland and Germans were kicked out, while polish territory was given to Soviet and poles kicked out.

Result hardly any conflict today

 

Ideally both countries should had population exchange program for years after independence even if that means giving up more land for india. This would have bought peace in subcontinent. 

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48 minutes ago, Singh bling said:

Hindu's and muslim had been fighting for over 1000 years , it is not just we have spent 7 decades fighting with each other.

 

The 2 nation theory was not the cause ,. The cause is rag tag implementation of two nation theory and obsession of congress leaders to keep hindu's and muslims side by side. 

Congress wanted to not have a communalized subcontinent. Politics of that era were fragile enough that if the Congress *did* concede on the muslims, the Sikhs would've also broken away, Goa would've been a permanent Christian Portuguese colony, Sikkim would've never joined us and in hindsight, the missionaries converting the NE tribals would've lead to a few more states leaving. 

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21 minutes ago, Zero_Unit said:

Being an atheist opens your eye up to many religious beliefs/hatered and other bs, your post is a prime example. What you mentioned, easier said than done bud. You don't relinquish a stupid ideology that easily. Let's take one example: How do you plan on educating their children when they flee to terrorist land and make babies there and in return those babies are terrorist future army? It's a never ending factory. Or Infact how do you know for a 100% fact what they are being influenced with outside of their home - assuming the parents are not terrorist themselves. Do you know how easy it is to brain wash a kid - if tidepod episode didn't show you that, I don't know what will.

But why don't we see such widespread issue in other cultures? How many Hindu kids or Christian kids are taking up arms and blowing up people? 

 

21 minutes ago, Zero_Unit said:

Do you know which religion was hated before the Muslims? Christianity would be your prime choice. If history had taught us anything, Christians were as brutal as the present Muslim terrorist. Burning a women alive because you're though to be a witch vs stoning a women to death for adultery. If you ask me, both ranks as psychotic.

So what you are saying is Islam is still in the process of becoming civilized and everyone should just wait for them to catch up. So who is going to take responsibility for all the bloodshed that's going to happen in the meantime? 

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7 minutes ago, Zero_Unit said:

https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/amp.news.com.au/national/queensland/politics/politician-lashes-out-at-muslims-after-christchurch-shootings-they-are-the-perpetrators/news-story/8e3f11fe73821dc3e65d75432ac76f2e

 

This is beyond stupid. In a time of crisis this moron had this to say - 

Queensland Senator Fraser Anning 

"The real cause of bloodshed on New Zealand streets today is the immigration program

which allowed Muslim fanatics to migrate to New Zealand in the first place.”

:bird:

insane. Most of the muslims killed are Fijian desis. Last i checked, they are the Ismaili types that are low profile and arn't into much extremist stuff.

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2 minutes ago, Lannister said:

But why don't we see such widespread issue in other cultures? How many Hindu kids or Christian kids are taking up arms and blowing up people? 

 

So what you are saying is Islam is still in the process of becoming civilized and everyone should just wait for them to catch up. So who is going to take responsibility for all the bloodshed that's going to happen in the meantime? 

Oye bhai kya hua ? logic se phat gayee ? 

Still waiting to hear how a random muslim is going to prove they've done something or why we should beleive you randomly saying you've done something about cow-related murderers ?!?

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28 minutes ago, Muloghonto said:

Here's a hint- people don't apologize for random people they don't know. So why the * are you justifying killing random people for something they had no individual part in ?!?

Because they let this hatred culture to grow with in their community and now they are seeing it's full consequence. It's hard to feel sympathetic towards these Muslim people. 

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14 minutes ago, Muloghonto said:

Congress wanted to not have a communalized subcontinent. Politics of that era were fragile enough that if the Congress *did* concede on the muslims, the Sikhs would've also broken away, Goa would've been a permanent Christian Portuguese colony, Sikkim would've never joined us and in hindsight, the missionaries converting the NE tribals would've lead to a few more states leaving. 

At what cost? , Hindu sikhs almost wiped from west Pakistan , while terribly declined in East Bengal. 

 

The environment was communalized it was congress just supressed it. 

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1 hour ago, R!TTER said:

PDP should be banned in India, he's a casual racist (if not full on) takes pleasure bashing India & sound more & more like Trump each passing day. In fact you'd get brain cancer quicker than watching Trump in full retard mode, what's more infuriating is that lots of Indians tolerate that sh!thole for some reason :whack2:

No need for that actually, we don't need to ban anyone like that. It's actually quite easy to not take him so seriously.

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13 minutes ago, Lannister said:

Because they let this hatred culture to grow with in their community and now they are seeing it's full consequence. It's hard to feel sympathetic towards these Muslim people. 

then its also hard to feel sympathetic to hindus who get blown up by muslims because of hindu killers, right ?


Still waiting to see how you prove that you take action against these killer hindus and how a muslim is supposed to prove that to you. Or how you can actually justify personal consequence without personal action. I guess this is what third world jahilliyaat does to people's brains. 

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3 minutes ago, Lannister said:

But why don't we see such widespread issue in other cultures? How many Hindu kids or Christian kids are taking up arms and blowing up people? 

 

So what you are saying is Islam is still in the process of becoming civilized and everyone should just wait for them to catch up. So who is going to take responsibility for all the bloodshed that's going to happen in the meantime? 

I have a feeling you didn't understand a single thing I laid out for you and trying to put words into my mouth that I haven't said. Never said wait around for the bloodshed to finish and till these morons matures up, however bombing them to infinity will not change the idiology, Infact will make it worst.

 

There are f'up widespread sh*t going around all over the world, just cause fox news or cnn isn't picking it up, doesn't mean it's not happening. Race, religion, color, you name it, it's happening. Just look at Africa and their war child - lot of them are Christians. F'ing eating people's heart after killing them - am not making this sh*t up.

 

You are probably used to watching western culture tv - since you did mention Christian kids are not taking up the arms -  that's why Christianity looks very civilized in your eyes. Also, from your innocent reply, am assuming you are ignorant about what actually happens around the world (not saying that you are stupid - just saying that you are uninformed and should get informed). Evil is evil, regardless of the religion they follow. But in the eyes of the terrorist, evil is the one who is bombing them aswell. It's a double edge sword here. You can't beat an idiology with bombs/police/etc. It may prevent it for the moment, but doesn't stop the idiology - just like how religion is spread through out generations in the form of an idiology. To you and I, those damn Muslim terrorist are evil, to them the americans are for bombing their parents/kids/spouses/ taking possession of their land.

 

You still haven't answered my question, you laid out your plan on what you will do, but I gave you an example on how your idea looks good on paper but when it comes to executing it, it's not as easy. Do you agree? How would you tackle it in real world? I have no better answer so I wouldn't be able to answer this hard question either.

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3 minutes ago, cric_fan said:

Right wing Hindus are trying their best to link this attack to Pakistan on social media and some are actually justifying it. Wtf

Don't act surprised, this is exactly what right wing muslims do after muslim terror attacks throughout social media for nearly a decade now - bring up bombing of iraq or afghanistan even when the perp is not from there. 

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