Islamophobia VS Kafirophobia ::: Media VS Quran/Sharia

[Alam_dar]

Imran Khan and Erdogan and Muslims are saying that Media is responsible for the hatred against the Muslims. 

But very important question: "Who filled Muslims with hatred against the European Culture and Values and thus the innocent Europeans have been killed many times more by the Muslims?

You blame the Media. 

But the Western People blame Quran and the Sharia to be brainwashing the Muslim youth and filling them with hatred and turning them into the killing Machines.

According to them, it is the Quran and Sharia which filled Muslims with KAFIROPHOBIA.

 

It is this Kafirophobia, propagated by Quran/Sharia which is making:

 

(1) Hugest numbers of terrorists among the Muslims.

(2) And stopping the Muslims masses to integrate into the Western society, but to make Ghettos and separate group which compels their young boys and girls only to marry among the Muslims, and to consider westerners as Kafirs. 

(3) Their madness to impose the Sharia in the West, by making more and more children. 

 

I just hope some leader gets the ball and tell these facts to Imran Khan and Erdogan, and all the Muslims who weep all the time for Islamophobia. 

 

[panther]

If you're really going to turn it into a numbers game than this century and the last europeans have killed far more muslims than, muslims have killed europeans.

[Alam_dar]

10 minutes ago, panther said:

If you're really going to turn it into a numbers game than this century and the last europeans have killed far more muslims than, muslims have killed europeans.

This does not work like this. 

 

Then you have also to count the numbers of the Muslims who were allowed by the West to settle in the Europe, and provided them with equal human rights. And their numbers are in millions and millions of Muslims, and much much more than what you are blaming upon the Westerners. 

 

And Muslims have waged a war against these Innocent Civilian Europeans who gave them asylum in their countries and looked after them. They waged a war against these civilian Europeans by not integrating in their society, and believing them to be that Quranic Kafirs who should be always hated inwardly and never their values be practised. 

 

This is that Kafirophobia, which was started and cultivated by Quran/Sharia, and we see tens of time more attacks by Muslim minorities against these civilian Europeans, as compared to seldom attacks by the other side. 

 

[panther]

2 hours ago, Alam_dar said:

This does not work like this. 

 

Then you have also to count the numbers of the Muslims who were allowed by the West to settle in the Europe, and provided them with equal human rights. And their numbers are in millions and millions of Muslims, and much much more than what you are blaming upon the Westerners. 

 

And Muslims have waged a war against these Innocent Civilian Europeans who gave them asylum in their countries and looked after them. They waged a war against these civilian Europeans by not integrating in their society, and believing them to be that Quranic Kafirs who should be always hated inwardly and never their values be practised. 

 

This is that Kafirophobia, which was started and cultivated by Quran/Sharia, and we see tens of time more attacks by Muslim minorities against these civilian Europeans, as compared to seldom attacks by the other side. 

 

And what about colonisation and exploitation of resources in the last few centuries, I don't know the numbers but please add that into your formula.

Edited March 17, 2019 by panther

[Alam_dar]

6 minutes ago, panther said:

And what about colonisation and exploitation of resources in the last few centuries, I don't know the numbers but please add that into your formula.

Then add what prophet Muhammad did to the Jewish tribe of Banu Qurayzah, where he killed all of their men (after making them the prisoners), including all the civilian men, including all the old men, and the children of age of 12 to 14 years. And made all their women and small children the slaves while those women had no part in the war. 

 

And slaughtering the prisoners is not even a war crime today, but it was considered even a crime during the times of ignorance. 

 

And then Muslims killed throughout their history and took all the women as slaves and compelled them to provide the sex service. 

 

Would you like to add all this too to the list? 

[Alam_dar]

Muslims are dishonest and use deception that US killed millions of Afghanis and it is only a reaction of it. 

 

While reality is this millions  of Afghanis were given asylum in Europe and US. And there is hardly any Afghani involved in any of the terrorist attack in the West. Almost all the terrorist attacks were carried out by Saudis or other Arabs and the Islamists. 

 

And the real reason could be seen in this poster. 

 

 

All these are the blessings of the Quran and Sharia which filled Muslims with the disease of Kafirophobia. And this kafirophobia is the real reason why Muslim are unable to integrate in the western societies, despite their being the number one in running for asylum in the West. 

 

 

[panther]

4 minutes ago, Alam_dar said:

Then add what prophet Muhammad did to the Jewish tribe of Banu Qurayzah, where he killed all of their men (after making them the prisoners), including all the civilian men, including all the old men, and the children of age of 12 to 14 years. And made all their women and small children the slaves while those women had no part in the war. 

 

And slaughtering the prisoners is not even a war crime today, but it was considered even a crime during the times of ignorance. 

 

And then Muslims killed throughout their history and took all the women as slaves and compelled them to provide the sex service. 

 

Would you like to add all this too to the list? 

Those Jews were not European, and they were killed according to their own law at the time if they had won they would have done the same but they lost so it is what it was.

 

 

[panther]

3 minutes ago, Alam_dar said:

Muslims are dishonest and use deception that US killed millions of Afghanis and it is only a reaction of it. 

 

While reality is this millions  of Afghanis were given asylum in Europe and US. And there is hardly any Afghani involved in any of the terrorist attack in the West. Almost all the terrorist attacks were carried out by Saudis or other Arabs and the Islamists. 

 

And the real reason could be seen in this poster. 

 

 

All these are the blessings of the Quran and Sharia which filled Muslims with the disease of Kafirophobia. And this kafirophobia is the real reason why Muslim are unable to integrate in the western societies, despite their being the number one in running for asylum in the West. 

 

 

You made the thread about so called civilized west v 'dishonest' muslims, the west has only been civalized for the last few centuries according to their own writers yet in the time of civility they and the political ideolgy that has come out of the west have killed more people than any other ideology.

[panther]

9 minutes ago, Alam_dar said:

Muslims are dishonest and use deception that US killed millions of Afghanis and it is only a reaction of it. 

 

While reality is this millions  of Afghanis were given asylum in Europe and US. And there is hardly any Afghani involved in any of the terrorist attack in the West. Almost all the terrorist attacks were carried out by Saudis or other Arabs and the Islamists. 

 

And the real reason could be seen in this poster. 

 

 

All these are the blessings of the Quran and Sharia which filled Muslims with the disease of Kafirophobia. And this kafirophobia is the real reason why Muslim are unable to integrate in the western societies, despite their being the number one in running for asylum in the West. 

 

 

Forget Afghanistan they killed far more Iraqis and Syrians.

[panther]

In the west you have democracy where you can vote out or in who you want, the people of the west regardless for who they voted for the wars would always continue regardless of how many civilians were killed or how unjustifiable the wars were, if they are so civalized and champions of human rights why didn't they vote in anti war governments? 

 

 

 

 

[Alam_dar]

25 minutes ago, panther said:

Those Jews were not European, and they were killed according to their own law at the time if they had won they would have done the same but they lost so it is what it was.

Don't try to hide behind Jews own law, while Muhammad confirmed in his authentic Tradition that S'ad decided according to the Law of Allah. Therefore, either Muslim Allah or Jewish god, it does not make a difference while they are the one and the same and culprit of this draconian killings of the prisoners. 

 

And if Allah of Islam was different, then He could easily overturn the rule of Jews as it was not incumbent upon Muhammad to rule according to the Jewish law. 

 

 

 

 

[Alam_dar]

33 minutes ago, panther said:

Forget Afghanistan they killed far more Iraqis and Syrians.

Neither Afghans, nor Syrians nor Iraqis were involved in the terrorism in the West. 

Muslims are dishonest and want to deceive the people that it is the reaction of war, but the reality is this that these terrorist attacks took place due to the Kafirophobia, as has been brainwashed by the Qruan and the Sharia. And this is the topic. 

 

This madness of imposing Islamic Shariah is the reason for these terrorists attacks by Muslims and their not integration in the Western societies, and not the wars. 

 

 

Muslims are hypocrite when they blame Media for Islamophobia, but don't want to see their own Kafirophobia, induced by Quran and Shariah. 

Edited March 17, 2019 by Alam_dar

[veer]

That's a good question... 

 

USA is still not feeling the brunt like Europeans are doing currently. There are some very well known theories that are down right hypocrisy like 'why saudi arabia does not allow any other religion while muslims around the world demand to practice their religion everywhere or else that society is racist or intolerant' or like 'why muslim women are not allowed to marry out of their religion while muslim men are allowed and then convert non-muslims' or 'why muslims are reproducing at crazy rate when most of them cannot provide to their family and then depend on welfare programs of that country' or 'why muslims when their numbers increase to certain percentage tend to reduce other groups to smaller numbers year after year'

 

To me these are facts, and not theories, no matter what arguments you present.. and all of it comes down to their holy book... 

[R!TTER]

46 minutes ago, veer said:

To me these are facts, and not theories, no matter what arguments you present.. and all of it comes down to their holy book... 

Not all down to the book, it's mostly about Ummah hypocrisy. These people, some of them, drink alcohol but when someone else draws cartoons of prophet they issue fatwa or start killing the perpetrators. The book itself maybe ambiguous about certain issues & Kafirs, but the brotherhood always believes that they have the god given rights to enjoy liberal democracies but in their "own land" they can kill people as much as they'd like to because Islam gives them the right to deal with others, who don't follow their twisted version.

[Alam_dar]

Problem is the misuse and abuse of the Western System by the Muslims. 

 

West didn't enforced the Muslims to come in millions to their countries and apply for asylum. Muslims did it at their own. And then they started hating the Western society due to the disease of Kafirophobia. 

 

Can someone imagine if a Christian stands up in Pakistan along with the banners of "No Sharia" , or "Shrari go to Hell"? What will Pakistani Muslims do with that Christian? 

 

But Muslims are doing the same thing in the Western countries and abusing the same System which fed them and which provided them with the shelter. 

 

As compared to Europe, we have India where there are 150 million Muslims are present, but Saffron brigade gave such Danda to these Muslims that no one shout for "Impose Sharia", but all the Mislims and the Mullahs of Deoband are shouting only "We want Secularism, We want Secularism". 

 

Not that I agree with the tactics of Saffron brigade, but in this case they are right when they placed the Muslim terrorism to it's actual place. 

 

And same thing is going to happen in the West too, and Muslims have to pay definitely. In China too, they have already been paying. 

 

 

[panther]

7 hours ago, Alam_dar said:

Don't try to hide behind Jews own law, while Muhammad confirmed in his authentic Tradition that S'ad decided according to the Law of Allah. Therefore, either Muslim Allah or Jewish god, it does not make a difference while they are the one and the same and culprit of this draconian killings of the prisoners. 

 

And if Allah of Islam was different, then He could easily overturn the rule of Jews as it was not incumbent upon Muhammad to rule according to the Jewish law. 

 

 

 

 

The decision was saad and was in accordance of the law of the time.

[The Dark Horse]

30 minutes ago, Alam_dar said:

Problem is the misuse and abuse of the Western System by the Muslims. 

 

West didn't enforced the Muslims to come in millions to their countries and apply for asylum. Muslims did it at their own. And then they started hating the Western society due to the disease of Kafirophobia. 

 

Can someone imagine if a Christian stands up in Pakistan along with the banners of "No Sharia" , or "Shrari go to Hell"? What will Pakistani Muslims do with that Christian? 

 

But Muslims are doing the same thing in the Western countries and abusing the same System which fed them and which provided them with the shelter. 

 

As compared to Europe, we have India where there are 150 million Muslims are present, but Saffron brigade gave such Danda to these Muslims that no one shout for "Impose Sharia", but all the Mislims and the Mullahs of Deoband are shouting only "We want Secularism, We want Secularism". 

 

Not that I agree with the tactics of Saffron brigade, but in this case they are right when they placed the Muslim terrorism to it's actual place. 

 

And same thing is going to happen in the West too, and Muslims have to pay definitely. In China too, they have already been paying. 

 

 

They can't answer your questions...if they were objective, at least they'll try to give a logical explanation.

[Alam_dar]

48 minutes ago, panther said:

The decision was saad and was in accordance of the law of the time.

Don't run away by putting the blame on Sa'ad and law of that time, while main question is if Allah of Jews or the All of Muslims (which is the same) had no wisdom to change these draconian and unjust laws of the time? 

 

Muhammad didn't conquer the castle of Banu Qurayzah, but he sent them the message to lay down the weapons. When they responded positively and laid down their weapons, then Muslims tied their hands and feet and made them the prisoners. After that Muhammad ordered to slaughter all the men (including all the old men and 12-14 years old boys who got the pubes) to be slaughtered even though those old men and boys got nothing to do with the war. And the women and and the small children were also innocent of any war, but they were also made slaves for whole of their life, and even their coming generations were also born as slaves due to the curse of birth slavery in Islam. 

 

As compared to Muhammad and his fabricated Allah, just look at the wisdom of great Buddha and his follower Ashoka and other Buddhist governments. Buddha taught against slavery about 1200 years before Islam, and Ashoka demolished the markets of slavery in India, and the later coming Buddhist governments all together demolished the institution of slavery by introducing the system of serfdom. This is called "wisdom", and not what the fabricated god of Muslims did. 

 

Remember, Buddah was an atheist who didn't believe in any divine teachings or divine laws, but he made all the laws by using his own reasoning and human rationale. 

 

 

[Alam_dar]

Coming to the Media, then it is the Pakistani Media where Islamic Fanatics like Oriya Maqbool Jan and Ansar Abbasi and many others have been poisoning the Muslim minds 24/7 against the Kafirs. 

But how conveniently Imran Khan forgot this face of his own Media for Kafirophobia, and blaming only the Western Media for Islamophobia.

 

[velu]

17 hours ago, panther said:

If you're really going to turn it into a numbers game than this century and the last europeans have killed far more muslims than, muslims have killed europeans.

 

muslims might have killed more muslims in this century ..

in the last century the wars were not about religion ..