zen Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 (edited) a) A sustainable country with world class infrastructure Population growth is managed optimally. No point in burning more forests for e.g. to create farmlands or industrial zones Adequate waste management systems. In the west for e.g., at times cities do not get additional housing permits if the area cannot support more population Clean energy, air, land and water. It cannot be like "I provide employment to 50 people so I will dump chemicals into river systems". It should be "why would you poison the river systems (strategic thinking) to provide employment for 50 people (tactical thinking)"? b) Quality population Quality over quantity Free basic education. A system where students can learn at their own pace while also devoting time for hobbies such as painting, photography, writing, music, sports, etc. Where you are judged based on team work. Once you go beyond the basics, education can get more advanced and focused Education to keep the environment first and India clean at any cost Free basic healthcare with competitive insurance rates till a certain minimum. Optimal emergency medical services Compulsory 2-year military service for men from ages 18-22. If nothing else, this will instill discipline A society that respects kids, women, seniors and animals, who have rights too c) Law and Order Better proactive monitoring and quick response Quicker judicial verdicts Advance equipment for the forces d) Stronger Military Modern equipment and highly trained personnels e) Responsible media and opposition parties Once the population is quality in general, by and large everyone becomes "responsible", but till then require policies where media does not sacrifice national interests for TRP ratings (for e.g. WC Abhinandan's address was leaked) Opposition parties stand united on national interest Can write more but let's start with the 5 points above .... How many would support such a movement? Edited March 18, 2019 by zen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted March 18, 2019 Author Share Posted March 18, 2019 9 minutes ago, Jatboy said: Is provided employment to youngsters is not part of your goals? All this browny points you wrote works only if people have a job. Wake up bhaktji. Jobs creation is a byproduct of a robust system, which can be created through a "quality" population .... no govt provides jobs unless related to govt work. it can provide temporary assistance or implement programs such as ubi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 1 hour ago, zen said: Jobs creation is a byproduct of a robust system, which can be created through a "quality" population .... no govt provides jobs unless related to govt work. it can provide temporary assistance or implement programs such as ubi The government should have policies that enable Industrial growth, cut red-tape and economy liberalization is the way forward. India suffered due to license raj and socialism policies of congress. Governement should never be in the business of business. It needs to create an env/eco system when jobs are grown organically. Instead, we invested in PSUs and got stuck with a commie economy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted March 18, 2019 Author Share Posted March 18, 2019 51 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: The government should have policies that enable Industrial growth, cut red-tape and economy liberalization is the way forward. India suffered due to license raj and socialism policies of congress. Governement should never be in the business of business. It needs to create an env/eco system when jobs are grown organically. Instead, we invested in PSUs and got stuck with a commie economy. yes, in general, carry out various initiatives to create an environment which facilitates growth .... however, these are tactical issues relatively. The scope of the topic is strategic for e.g. most people want economic growth and jobs (who likes to work for someone else) because they can use the $$$ (or incremental income) to achieve their goals (whatever they may be) .... who is to say a farmer living a healthy lifestyle with his kids getting quality basic education and recreational support with access to good basic medical facilities while breathing quality air, drinking quality water and eating quality food in a clean and safe environment isn't better off .... on the other hand, someone could be living in unhygienic conditions in a slum earning enough $$$ but his kids have no bright future. the family is in trouble if someone gets sick. or the women unsafe when they walk out of the house in the long term, it could become meaningless to pursue goals where everyone is focused on earning but lives in a constantly degrading environment. on the other hand, creating an environment where everyone has a quality of life at an acceptable basic level could be more meaningful .... the idea is to use the economic growth while empowering citizen to reach their potential to create such a positive environment BrantFUGH 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chewy Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 Need quality education (especially in primary and secondary schools) and quality police force Everything else where sort itself supported by strong cultural and religious boundaries Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velu Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 a) possible in the near future .. maybe in another 20/25 years b) impossible .. we cant take india out of indian c) if we get prosperous , law and order will be in order d) possible .. but we cant beat usa , russia , china for another half a century e) even us media is irespsonbile i hope @zens grand kid wont be asking the same thing in another 25 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhakum20 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 I really doubt majority of resident indians have such aspirations. These are the goals of NRIs/foreigners of indian origin not resident indians. If you go to religious sites and you comment how filthy they are, they will say oh not at all this land is blessed by god it’s not unclean! I mean how can you even argue with such people :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beetle Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 I want India to be a safer place for everyone. I want India to be a happier place for everyone. Stan AF 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
someone Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 OP mentioned are very generic things and they could be said about any developed country as well. Imo, every single area in India by corruption. So firstly we need to change from inefficient curruption to efficient corruption. Even with extra money, at least the tasks should be completed. And with this government where top level has no corruption, it has meant we has already resulted in greater inefficiency. So projects which were only delayed, costly are now at least getting implemented and completion. And we need to switch from soft power to hard power. This cultural heritage and power is very limited implact in global reality, the military might is very crucial. And in this goverment, we are setting gradually moving to hard power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted March 19, 2019 Author Share Posted March 19, 2019 6 hours ago, bhakum20 said: I really doubt majority of resident indians have such aspirations. These are the goals of NRIs/foreigners of indian origin not resident indians. If you go to religious sites and you comment how filthy they are, they will say oh not at all this land is blessed by god it’s not unclean! I mean how can you even argue with such people :/ To simplify, the issue is similar to how many keep their houses clean but garbage outside. they feel proud of their clean houses and get used to garbage outside .... to an outsider, the people in clean houses are still living in garbage and oblivious to their surroundings without awareness, the problem will remain longer than intended. i am thinking about developing a community that raises awareness on such issues to initiate the process to drive the change. if people have ideas, feel free to reach out to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted March 19, 2019 Author Share Posted March 19, 2019 to everyone without awareness, the problem will remain longer than intended. i am thinking about developing a community that raises awareness on such issues to initiate the process to drive the change. if people have ideas, feel free to reach out to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted March 19, 2019 Author Share Posted March 19, 2019 1 hour ago, someone said: OP mentioned are very generic things and they could be said about any developed country as well. Imo, every single area in India by corruption. So firstly we need to change from inefficient curruption to efficient corruption. Even with extra money, at least the tasks should be completed. And with this government where top level has no corruption, it has meant we has already resulted in greater inefficiency. So projects which were only delayed, costly are now at least getting implemented and completion. That is probably thinking tactically. the discussion here is strategic .... to reach to a strategic solution to your particular concern, start with the question - why there is corruption .... the idea is to also move away from $$$ is everything thinking which has plagued Ind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted March 19, 2019 Author Share Posted March 19, 2019 Not everything may be perfect about Bhutan but it is a country with a fresh approach, which differentiates itself from the also-ran: Also may a country that is closer to the goals that I have for Ind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McCoy Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 Enough of goals and ambitions. Get back to your useless jaabs . @velu Vayala vada sudara goshti inga Laaloo, zen and velu 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velu Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 1 hour ago, zen said: to everyone without awareness, the problem will remain longer than intended. i am thinking about developing a community that raises awareness on such issues to initiate the process to drive the change. if people have ideas, feel free to reach out to me bhai .. do you have any gujju idea(s) to make easy money out of others ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted March 19, 2019 Author Share Posted March 19, 2019 5 minutes ago, velu said: bhai .. do you have any gujju idea(s) to make easy money out of others ? how much do you want to earn? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranvir Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 Indians are selfish when it comes to wider society (but more selfless with friends and family). They don't understand or care about the implications of what their behaviour is doing in the bigger picture. This is also the case with NRIs. We can't even be bothered with forming neighbourhood watches when living in affluent areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishra Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 There is looming water crisis. We may not go to war with Pakistan over Kashmir but we may endup going to war over water Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velu Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 1 hour ago, zen said: how much do you want to earn? maybe 5/6L per week out of 5 working days , only 2 days are profitable for me .. trying to figure out what todo on the remaining 3 days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punjabi_khota Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 (edited) Reading the title I thought it was discussion on Sunil Chettri's autobiography. Edited March 19, 2019 by punjabi_khota Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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