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Sushma asks report on abduction of Hindu sisters in Sindh, Pakistan retorts

 
Whilst generally speaking, I am not in favor of GOI interfering in internal matters of other countries and I know for sure these efforts won't change the mindset of Pakistanis, but this is a good move. Expose Pakistan globally, let this story become an international one so that more are aware of the nature of the monster. Today a Saudi mofo sitting in UNHRC passes judgement over alleged human rights violations in India and at the same time ignoring the track record of Muslim countries. About time the civilized world wakes up to the menace of Islamic states. 
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11 hours ago, Aiden said:

Indians should not be lecturing about women rights especially to Pakistanis. If you take off the blue glasses every neutral person in the world knows which country is rape capitol of the world.

Everyone in the world.knows Pakistan is a rape nation forget rape capital, even goats in Pakistan are fair game

 

Its no surprise, that paedophile child rapists are Pakistan's second biggest export after terrorists

 

You are probably on some child sex register already

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2 hours ago, Gollum said:

Has Nobel Laureate Malala opened her mouth over this issue? She sure seems selective in directing her outrage and concerns. Has Pakistani qaum hit the bottom pit of humanity? 

Malala Yousafzai incident seems very fishy to me, I doubt the authenticity. The way she rapidly recovered from a gun shot to become global face of Muslim women's rights is questionable.

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Number of such cases keeps rising, 2 more Hindu girls abducted and converted. Probably 1000s of such victims every year, no hope. Even if they rescue one, 10 others will suffer silently. Feel sorry for minorities in Islamic countries. 

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1 hour ago, Gollum said:

Number of such cases keeps rising, 2 more Hindu girls abducted and converted. Probably 1000s of such victims every year, no hope. Even if they rescue one, 10 others will suffer silently. Feel sorry for minorities in Islamic countries. 

 

https://www.dawn.com/news/1098452

An estimated one thousand Christian and Hindu women are forced to convert and marry Muslim men in Pakistan every year, says a report released on Monday.

According to a report by the Movement for Solidarity and Peace in Pakistan, up to 700 of these women are Christian and 300 are Hindu.

“The true scale of the problem is likely to be much greater, as a number of cases are never reported or do not progress through the law-enforcement and legal systems,” the authors claim.

 

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12 minutes ago, diga said:

Forget Pak ..@mariyam the lawyer can tell us more

 

 

Here is the Indian law about child marriages and personal laws:

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_marriage_in_India

 

Muslim organizations of India have long argued[9][38] that Indian laws, passed by its parliament, such as the 2006 child marriage law do not apply to Muslims, because marriage is a personal law subject.[6][8] The Delhi High Court, as well as other state high courts of India, have disagreed. The Delhi Court, for example, ruled that Prohibition of Child Marriage Act, 2006 overrides all personal laws and governs each and every citizen of India[39] The ruling stated that an under-age marriage, where either the man or woman is over 16 years old, would not be a void marriage but voidable one, which would become valid if no steps are taken by such court as has option to order otherwise. In case either of the parties is less than 18 years old, the marriage is void, given the age of consent is 18 in India, sex with minors under the age of 18 is a statutory crime under Section 376 of Indian Penal Code.[39]

Various other High courts in India - including the Gujarat High Court,[40] the Karnataka High Court[41] and the Madras High Court[42] - have ruled that the act prevails over any personal law (including Muslim personal law).

 

 

I hope Supreme Court soon bans this practice of child marriage too. It should not be a problem after what we saw in case of Triple Talaq. Supreme Court is going in the right direction. Personal laws should be limited only to the individual worship issues. But when cases arises between TWO Parties (even if they are Muslims), still no personal law should be allowed. 

 

Indian supreme court also ruled for alimony in case of Talaq, and custody of Children is also not a personal law. Thus marriage of minor age girl should also be banned. 

 

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Conversion is a strange issue in India. 

 

In ideal case, there should be no conditions about conversion. But Indian states put some restrictions like waiting for 30 days and registering it to the magistrate etc. 

 

I don't know if under age teens are allowed to convert or not in India. 

 

But as an Atheist, I firmly believe that ALL the religious people are involved in the crime of brainwashing their children. And due to this brainwashing, a child of Hindu becomes Hindu, a child of Muslim becomes a Muslim, and a child of a Christian becomes a Christian. 

 

In an ideal case, I would like to see a ban upon the parents to brainwash their children and to tell them if they are Hindu or Muslim or Christian. 

 

Accepting any religion should be left to children alone. They could study different religions and ideologies, and decide for themselves when they are once 18 years old. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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@diga 

@Alam_dar has answered your question for the most part.

 

In India, criminal law takes precedence over personal laws. And sexual intercourse with a minor is statutory rape.

India is absolutely clear about this. We are not Pakistan. Our laws are to protect everyone, not to pander to extremists.

 

On the case of abduction of the 12/14 year old Hindu girls, and their forced conversion. It is about time that Muslims in positions of leadership/ influence in Pakistan speak up against this systematic rape that has been taking place for quite some time now. Else there is no reason to take them seriously when they talk about the condition of minorities in India, who are infinitely better off than those in Pakistan.

 

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22 minutes ago, mishra said:

Killing and abducting Hindus in their country  is a way to get back at India. Usual Lahori stuff.  Hopeless Nation

Exactly, this frustrated sadistic nation is so messed up, in short history the men of Pakistan are the most inferior viles, in Pakistan or abroad

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This is/was a dumb policy by Indian Government to not to speak upon the matter of abduction of Hindu Girls. What good do you get for not speaking up for the human rights? Nobody hears the voice of individuals or the weaker people. The protests should also come from the powerful people to be effective. 

 

And the double standards of Imran Khan is when he thinks it is his right to blame the Western Media for Islamophobia, and it didn't become an internal matter of NZ at that time, but when Shushma Sahiba showed her concerns about the abducted girls, then Fawad Chaudhry says it is an internal matter of Pakistan.

 

And some members at this forum also plays like Fawad Chaudhry. They are concerned about the abducted Hindu girls in pakistan, but stop other people to speak upon the crimes of the right wing Hindutva by saying that it is an internal matter of India 

 

What they are not able to understand is this that we all are linked with each other in the name of humanity. Zulm is Zulm. Either it is upon Hindu Girls or upon the Indian minorities. Either is done by Muslim fanatics or the Hindu fanatics. They have to be condemned each and every time on the merit of justice. 

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43 minutes ago, Gollum said:

 

Imran cannot afford to fight for Muslims as Pakistan is failed country and cannot oppose what China does to minority community in China. China will just stop the money lifeline. Probably only if Pakistan manages to repay the debt to China, they will start opposing attrocities on their community in China by atleast printing it in media. Nothing more than that though. Some high level official highlighted the double standards yesterday in an interview regarding way China is treating that community.

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28 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

TBH, poor stuff from China.  You cannot take the rights from people to practice their religion and beliefs.  This is against the core belief of atheism. 

Their atheism isn't derived from scientific argument, it comes from communism which is a vile & inhuman ideology in the real world.

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I am so much angry to see how the Pakistani Islamists are making excuse upon excuse to defend this crime of forceful abduction and conversion and marriage. 

 

And the worst part of it is this that these Islamists are no more limited to the Madrassas, but now whole Media is full of their supporters. And they are masters in making excuses as they have learnt the art of how to defend even the worst type of Sharia rulings. Thus they have become experts in using this expertise in every kind of case. 

The Pakistan Liberals have absolutely no chance against these Mullahs and their supporters in the Media. 

Only Dawn Newspaper is showing some resistance against these Mullahs, while all others don't challenge the Mullahs any more. 

 

3 Decades ago, there were hardly any Mullahs with long beards in high class schools, colleges and Universities. But now all the prestigious institutes and universities are full of long bearded Professors. All this happened in the last 3 decades. Situation is going only downwards. 

 

 

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“The world cannot afford China’s shameful hypocrisy toward Muslims. On one hand, China abuses more than a million Muslims at home, but on the other it protects violent Islamic terrorist groups from sanctions at the UN,” Pompeo said in a tweet Wednesday, without mentioning the JeM or the outfit’s chief.

 

https://indianexpress.com/article/world/china-protecting-violent-islamic-terror-groups-from-un-sanctions-mike-pompeo-5646710/

 

I K is the one who is expected to raise voice against attrocities committed though. A totally useless PM for the community who just tolerates what the minority has to go through.

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37 minutes ago, Straight Drive said:

“The world cannot afford China’s shameful hypocrisy toward Muslims. On one hand, China abuses more than a million Muslims at home, but on the other it protects violent Islamic terrorist groups from sanctions at the UN,” Pompeo said in a tweet Wednesday, without mentioning the JeM or the outfit’s chief.

 

https://indianexpress.com/article/world/china-protecting-violent-islamic-terror-groups-from-un-sanctions-mike-pompeo-5646710/

 

I K is the one who is expected to raise voice against attrocities committed though. A totally useless PM for the community who just tolerates what the minority has to go through.

Imran Khan is dud PM, certainly a worse PM than Sharif, this guy and his cabinet are clueless who go begging globally for free dough to avoid structural reforms to their economy, the economy is basket case, their stock market value is so puny it's below the required threshold for MSCI emerging market status. Their borrowing rates has got gradually worse in his tenure.

The morons in pakistan don't realise how much of a dimwit and incompetent person is leading them, it's laughable he is even compared to Modi :phehe:

Imran Khan is your typical African banana republic leader, clueless and taking orders from army guys.

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1 hour ago, chewy said:

Imran Khan is dud PM, certainly a worse PM than Sharif, this guy and his cabinet are clueless who go begging globally for free dough to avoid structural reforms to their economy, the economy is basket case, their stock market value is so puny it's below the required threshold for MSCI emerging market status. Their borrowing rates has got gradually worse in his tenure.

The morons in pakistan don't realise how much of a dimwit and incompetent person is leading them, it's laughable he is even compared to Modi :phehe:

Imran Khan is your typical African banana republic leader, clueless and taking orders from army guys.

The issue is that people over there probably do not understand the economy and the impact of failing government policies on their day to day lives as well as that of futue generation. Do not see him as someone who is pulling Pakistan out of the financial crisis and loss of pakistani lives due to terrorism. Wasted 5 years for the public over there . The problems are probably worse now. Ny the time he completes his tenure you never know how bad and irreversible the damage would be.

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I believe that Imran Khan is a liberal personally. He lived in the West and he knows the Secular human values. 

 

It is not easy to run a country like Pakistan where you have to tackle many many severe problems. He has to bribe the Mullahs initially in order to get rid of the accusation of being an adulter. Perhaps he succeeded in his policy and initially he shook hands with the Mullahs, and thus Mullahs accepted him. And now it is difficult for the Mullahs to blame him for fornication while previously they were sitting with him. 

 

I personally believe that Imarn Khan will get nothing from the palwama attack, or from the abduction of the Hindu girls. He himself wants to clear up these hurdles. Let us see how much he succeed in this task.  

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Pakistan investigates journalists for online campaign to 'disrespect' Saudi Crown Prince with Khashoggi pictures

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New low, even for Pakistan. 
....and they call Modi a fascist. [emoji848]

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