PBN Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 did anyone catch the presentation ceremony, did Ashwin get an award for this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishra Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 4 minutes ago, flamy said: I'm not defending the batter or the bowler. I'm just pointing out it is up to the umpire. The way I'd have interpreted what happened would have been a dead ball, since Ashwin pulled out of delivering the ball. I have no problems with what Ashwin or Buttler did. Its not a ball yet. So question of calling it dead ball doesn’t arise. Ball is active and run out was on. Ashwin got it. As I said, I want this to happen more often. That will simply settle it. Now a days it has become habbit of few players of one team to make mockery of this law MCcricket and express bowling 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishra Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 36 minutes ago, aditya19 said: this was stupid from ashwin...imagine if england had done so with kohli at the crease Most jounrnos would have pointed him and Indians to read the law. profster 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 45 minutes ago, bowl_out said: Except the rule doesn't specify that it is okay to pause your bowling to wait and con the batsman. For me, the biggest issue is Ashwin paused his action and seemed like he had no intention to bowl that ball at all. a con job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowl_out Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 28 minutes ago, TNAmarkFromIndia said: So now you're going to say the wicketkeeper pausing to wait until the batsman's foot is in the air to effect a stumping is against the spirit of the game too? There's no reason for Buttler to be outside his crease before the ball is even delivered. No, because the rule for the bowler is different from the rule for the wicketkeeper. Buttler was in the crease when the bowler would have normally released the ball.. So, STFU. Law 41.16: If the non-striker is out of his/her ground from the moment the ball comes into play to the instant when the bowler would normally have been expected to release the ball, the bowler is permitted to attempt to run him/her out. Whether the attempt is successful or not, the ball shall not count as one in the over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowl_out Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 44 minutes ago, flamy said: Exactly. So, it is the umpire's fault for not calling that. Is it unsportsmanlike to appeal for a catch to avoid a wide call? Or, to appeal for an LBW, on the off-chance that the umpire might give it out? Agree on this point.. It's the umpire's fault too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollum Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 Ashwin's wife on insta... Abuses to their 2-3 year old daughter. Indians on social media are the biggest scumbags in the world, I doubt terrorists on social media would do this to a 2 year old. *ing low lives, what next they will start issuing rape threats? mishra, bowl_out and Turning_track 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowl_out Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 4 minutes ago, Gollum said: Ashwin's wife on insta... Abuses to their 2-3 year old daughter. Indians on social media are the biggest scumbags in the world, I doubt terrorists on social media would do this to a 2 year old. *ing low lives, what next they will start issuing rape threats? Random post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 3 minutes ago, bowl_out said: Agree on this point.. It's the umpire's fault too Umpiring fault is related to not doing due diligence. The key culprit is Ashwin who conned everyone including the umpires. Much like how someone would purposely claim a bump catch and umpire would give it out w/o doing due diligence going by the word of the fielder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishra Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 ^ Here on icf you can see it. People making their own rule to take some moral stand. This is not first time Butler Is Mankaded. Last lime Srilankans did it. And they were right too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollum Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, bowl_out said: Random post Don't want to start a thread just for this. BTW plenty of random posts in all threads, you want me to start calling them out every time. Edited March 25, 2019 by Gollum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishra Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, zen said: Umpiring fault is related to not doing due diligence. The key culprit is Ashwin who conned everyone including the umpires. Much like how someone would purposely claim a bump catch and umpire would give it out w/o doing due diligence going by the word of the fielder Why is Ash culprit for following law? How do u know due diligence wasnt done? Edited March 25, 2019 by mishra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishra Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 (edited) Here @GollumNot just India series. Butler was doing exactly same thing throughout the series against Lankans. They ran him out too. I wont be surprised if he is run out again in similar fashion. https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2014/jun/03/england-fury-sri-lanka-mankad-run-out-jos-buttler However Law is clear. If Run out is on, take it Edited March 25, 2019 by mishra Gollum, express bowling, flamy and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 (edited) 10 minutes ago, mishra said: Why is Ash culprit for following law? How do u know due diligence wasnt done? Understand your love for Ashwin but don’t try to sell me on he “followed” the law. Yes, he did twist the law to con the batsman (Blatant cheating) Edited March 25, 2019 by zen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollum Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 Pretty annoying that during peak election season all twitter trends are about this incident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishra Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 4 minutes ago, zen said: Understand your love for Ashwin but don’t try to sell me on he “followed” the law. Yes, he did twist the law to con the batsman (Blatant cheating) Read it again. Tell me where it says Ashwin? Whwere it mentions Butler? Where it mentions warning? Where it says dead ball? Where it says due diligence. You are selectively reading or ignoring facts express bowling 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowl_out Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 31 minutes ago, Gollum said: Ashwin's wife on insta... Abuses to their 2-3 year old daughter. Indians on social media are the biggest scumbags in the world, I doubt terrorists on social media would do this to a 2 year old. *ing low lives, what next they will start issuing rape threats? Sorry, didn't get the context of what you were posting... just saw the instagram post and comments.. Absolutely disgraceful by those scumbags.. Terrible behavior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vvvslaxman Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 1 hour ago, speedheat said: Nothing wrong honestly coz its within rules and butler has history of getting mankand. I still remember sachitra senanayake mankanding Butler once but he warned butler before that, don't know if ashwin did the same or not. Oh he did lol Ash probably thought he could use that to make butler look Like a serial offender lol If someone backs up too much he must be enalized as he gets advantage. Not the same here though but still legit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, mishra said: Read it again. Tell me where it says Ashwin? Whwere it mentions Butler? Where it mentions warning? Where it says dead ball? Where it says due diligence. You are selectively reading or ignoring facts Per law I can be innocent despite murdering someone if body is not discovered or if there was not “enough” evidence or whatever the clause can get me out .... You can convince yourself with it not those who know how to play with the law too This is blatant cheating by Ashwin, who deliberately stopped from bowling when in his normal stride Butler went out of crease .... On live TV ppl saw that Let’s not play childish games! Have to hold the players to higher standards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishra Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, zen said: Per law I can be innocent despite murdering someone if body is not discovered or if there was not “enough” evidence or whatever the clause can get me out .... You can convince yourself with it not those who know how to play with the law too This is blatant cheating by Ashwin, who deliberately stopped from bowling when in his normal stride Butler went out of crease .... On live TV ppl saw that Let’s not play childish games! Have to hold the players to higher standards Now u are making up stuff. Again read it.It says “release”. Rule also mention that they have to put this clarification so that oldies don’t get their nipples twisted Edited March 25, 2019 by mishra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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