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Ultimately, Hindutva is all about restoring Hindu pride and that's the only way to tackle this Hinduphobia. Like how due to BJP in the last 5 years, opposition leaders have to go temples, have tilaks, and is in that correct direction.

 

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22 minutes ago, Vilander said:

Why is cow considered for peta regulation but not chicken or fish ?

PETA does a lot of virtue signaling, moral posturing, guilt tripping when it comes to Hindus. They want to ban crackers in Diwali, avoid colours in Holi, ban animal sacrifices in Hindu temples (Nepal, Bengal, Assam, even in South) but not a whisper when it comes to Bakrid, New Year fireworks or Christmas Turkey slaughter. 

 

I never cared much about them but then during Jallikattu protests they showed their true colours, spreading fake news about the tradition, bashing Tamil culture/society, shaming us internationally. Even the liberandus joined them to lecture about reforming Tamil society, that's when I dug deep into PETA's activities and explored their bias.  

 

Dharmics, especially Hindus are at the forefront of ethical treatment of animals, champions of vegetarianism and because of our religion we learn to respect all life forms at an early age. Not denying we can't do better but to paint a wrong, misleading picture about Hindus is unacceptable of which PETA is guilty. 

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1 hour ago, Gollum said:

PETA does a lot of virtue signaling, moral posturing, guilt tripping when it comes to Hindus. They want to ban crackers in Diwali, avoid colours in Holi, ban animal sacrifices in Hindu temples (Nepal, Bengal, Assam, even in South) but not a whisper when it comes to Bakrid, New Year fireworks or Christmas Turkey slaughter. 

 

I never cared much about them but then during Jallikattu protests they showed their true colours, spreading fake news about the tradition, bashing Tamil culture/society, shaming us internationally. Even the liberandus joined them to lecture about reforming Tamil society, that's when I dug deep into PETA's activities and explored their bias.  

 

Dharmics, especially Hindus are at the forefront of ethical treatment of animals, champions of vegetarianism and because of our religion we learn to respect all life forms at an early age. Not denying we can't do better but to paint a wrong, misleading picture about Hindus is unacceptable of which PETA is guilty. 

Yeah peta is just an other ngo. But i am wondering why we should only be out raged for cow slaughter not chicken fish etc. Why selective outrage. 

 

If its our way to control Peaceful testosterone i am ok with it, just need a logical explaination.

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NPR India's producer based in New Delhi. Same language as the Pulwama suicide bomber, she is a self confessed secular liberal. All she ever does is spew venom against India and Hindus. And Hindus are the intolerant, evil ones.....Hinduphobia is real and active in a country with 80% Hindu population :facepalm:

NPR is heavy on India bashing, why do these assholes come to India and abuse us? 

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32 minutes ago, Gollum said:

NPR's India head based in New Delhi.

Dude, she's just a z grade 'producer' / photographer.  She's not 'head' of anything. 

 

 

You are 24 hours late with this btw, saw this yesterday even sent off a letter to NPR's ombudsman.  She needs to lose her job - let's see what happens.

 

This racist prejudice is the basis for the subset of Kashmiris who don't want to be part of India - education level doesn't matter - they see themselves as ethnically and religiously superior to 'brown' Indians - that's why they cling to delusions of either "azaadi" or merger with green-bros. 

 

That is why, even a liberal like me, is forced to support the media and internet clampdown after the a370 abrogation.   Harsh measures are required to bring a racist sub-section of the population in line, particularly given the malicious interference from across the LOC.  As Ajit Doval and Jaishankar have pointed out - the internet shutdown has dealt a massive blow to the Pakistani "handlers" of the troublemakers in the valley.  A few weeks of inconvenience is a difficult, but small price to pay, in context.  The 'radio' silence, along with the pressure on Pakistan, will force more and more 'underground' rats to squeal and come above ground, and end up being caught by the forces.  This time around, the "mowing of the grass" by the security forces is going to be much more effective.

 

And let people like her whinge all they want about the "unfairness" of it all.

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10 minutes ago, sandeep said:

Dude, she's just a z grade 'producer' / photographer.  She's not 'head' of anything. 

OK then she is NPR India's (New Delhi based) producer, edited. Her bigotry should be called out, I see NPR speaking PakMil/ISI language so more heat on them is good. 

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9 minutes ago, Tibarn said:

I wish she wouldn't have deleted it really, it was good for the Dhimmis to see these peoples' actual mindset. 

 

These cartoons always expose themselves on Twitter. The more exposure they get, the more the veil of secularism gets slowly lifted. 

She is in career protection mode now.   I think she's going to end up changing her name, at least for work purposes.  Hard to live this kind of exposure down, in today's era.

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12 minutes ago, Tibarn said:

I wish she wouldn't have deleted it really, it was good for the Dhimmis to see these peoples' actual mindset. 

 

These cartoons always expose themselves on Twitter. The more exposure they get, the more the veil of secularism gets slowly lifted. 

Thank God for social media, more people are made aware of these snakes. Otherwise very easy to hide these inconvenient exposes, give cover to the bigots...no wonder LW ecosystem ruled India for so long. 

But seriously worrying to see the West/ Gulf based media organizations set up shop in India and fuel flames, we need to be doubly careful.  

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On 4/12/2019 at 9:01 PM, Mariyam said:

@Gollum 

 

Khoon ki Ganga.

 

This is a very Bengali thing that I notice. @Muloghonto. You guys mix up your ki and kas.

ya. not only bengalis. slang hindi like hyderabadi hindi also do this. they use the masculine variant. even the indian christians, goans and parsis do this. 

 

lol

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21 hours ago, sandeep said:

She is in career protection mode now.   I think she's going to end up changing her name, at least for work purposes.  Hard to live this kind of exposure down, in today's era.

Nobody even knew her before this controversy, so she may be able to slide into another media-group's production team with little fuss. I doubt the people outraging on Twitter would even follow-up so long as she keeps quiet this time and maybe avoids naming her new employer in her Twitter-bio. At worst, she can go down to Urdu-language media where she would be able to hide due to others' ignorance of the language.  JMO.

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23 hours ago, Gollum said:

Thank God for social media, more people are made aware of these snakes.

Otherwise very easy to hide these inconvenient exposes, give cover to the bigots...no wonder LW ecosystem ruled India for so long. 

Social media is what turned me into the monster I have become. :(( It used to be that I had the assumption that it was just some bad Mullahs leading people astray, but even common, not particularly outwardly devout people say this type of stuff as well. One really sees how common this type of mindset is in India, and not just among RoP. 

 

When one reads the replies below a main tweet it's even more enlightening.  Read a leftists tweet, and then read the replies among their followers. IE, I used to follow Hartosh Singh Bal on twitter for a long time after I joined, but when I started going  into the replies, the amount of anti-Hindu vitriol among non-Hindus was truly astounding to see. I mean it's one thing to bash the RSS or BJP, that's not really a big deal since they are a political/cultural organization, but the "crossing-the-line" into Hindu-bashing and/or India-bashing was something-else. Now Hindus give it back( even those who are no-longer practicing or are just cultural-Hindus) and suddenly "intolerance is rising" and twitter blocks accounts. It's overall a good-thing, this one-sided bhaichara that Hindus are supposed to show other communities because "secularism" is disappearing, for the better I would say if the truth is seen.  

 

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But seriously worrying to see the West/ Gulf based media organizations set up shop in India and fuel flames, we need to be doubly careful.  

I agree. That's another failure of the current government. Just like Foreign-funded NGOs, these foreign media houses need to be suffocated. Neither have a right to interfere in Indian society and politics. 

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22 hours ago, Gollum said:

Good news, this is the power of mobilization and social media pressure tactics. We are slowly learning, good....took less than a day. 

 

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We and a lot of OFBJP members tagged NPR USA and threatened to stop the contributions we make to NPR because of their bigotry. When it hurts them financially, they take notice. I had anyway stopped contributing after their Leli biased coverage of Sabarimala controversy showing Hinduphobic Views of Hindu religion being anti-women. They (NPR) have bren exposed of their Ideology after 2016 Trump victory.

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Sircar is a former babu who was India's cultural secretary and then CEO, Prasar Bharati....all under UPA regime. 

 

The late Uncle Pai was one of the greatest sons of Mother India, deserves a Bharat Ratna for sure. Without him most wouldn't be introduced to Indian history/civilization.....a great educationalist who made learning fun for impressionable young minds. 

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34 minutes ago, Gollum said:

Sircar is a former babu who was India's cultural secretary and then CEO, Prasar Bharati....all under UPA regime. 

 

The late Uncle Pai was one of the greatest sons of Mother India, deserves a Bharat Ratna for sure. Without him most wouldn't be introduced to Indian history/civilization.....a great educationalist who made learning fun for impressionable young minds. 

Facking communists and secularists. Screwed Hindus and India forever. Worse than what Fundu Islamists did.

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On 9/13/2019 at 3:46 PM, coffee_rules said:

Even Official Police handles have started insulting Hindus. They can do squat about azaan but are patronizing Hindus about ganpati visarjan. 

 

saal mein ek baar vs din mein paanch baar.

 

I don't get the equivalence.

 

Azaan has no DJs.

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Why are people at IITs an authority on religion and the history of religion? Please talk about super conductors or fixing table fans or whatever it is that engineering teaches you.

 

I know this is tangential to the topic here, but IIT has to be the most over hyped scam out there.

GoI gives them a massive subsidy on their education and only a handful of them are involved in any direct 'nation building' job.

Hell, very few are employed in an engineering job too. Most end up going to the US for Masters or do an MBA in India.

GoI has no business subsidising IIT education. And its a lot of subsidy. Each state has an IIT now. Rather use that money to improve the quality of primary education in government run schools.

 

Without the loss of generalisation, most IITians I've come across are socially awkward full of themselves jerks. With a huge chip on their collective shoulders simply because they cleared some exam after 5 years of prep starting from 8th grade.

 

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12 hours ago, Mariyam said:

Why are people at IITs an authority on religion and the history of religion? Please talk about super conductors or fixing table fans or whatever it is that engineering teaches you.

 

I know this is tangential to the topic here, but IIT has to be the most over hyped scam out there.

GoI gives them a massive subsidy on their education and only a handful of them are involved in any direct 'nation building' job.

Hell, very few are employed in an engineering job too. Most end up going to the US for Masters or do an MBA in India.

GoI has no business subsidising IIT education. And its a lot of subsidy. Each state has an IIT now. Rather use that money to improve the quality of primary education in government run schools.

 

Without the loss of generalisation, most IITians I've come across are socially awkward full of themselves jerks. With a huge chip on their collective shoulders simply because they cleared some exam after 5 years of prep starting from 8th grade.

 

Really ? I have interacted with plenty and found most of them to be fairly easy going. Sure they are extremely confident but no where close to the jerks from IIMs. 

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A comment by Himanshu:

 

I don't speak for her here, my interpretation here is my own, but at least it's obvious to me that she doesn't mean that literally. She probably meant that the idea of Hinduism, of people for eg. rallying in masses in the name of being a Hindu, etc. was invented in 20th century. Like, there were no discussions about Hindu vs. Muslim, or mob lynchings, etc. in 8th century right? Probably because there WASN'T any other religion (known to people in majority) at all. It's only recently that when people really became conscious of other religions that their own identity as a Hindu made sense and the concept of 'Hindu' was created. (if everyone you ever knew was Hindu and nobody told you that there are other religions people could be, then the word 'Hindu' and 'religion' would be meaningless). Now i don't agree with her view, and someone who agrees might still disagree on the exact century or the exact way that this occurred, but i can at least understand that this is what she might have meant. Think about it like this. Haven't you ever been misunderstood by someone else? Imagine if you were a 10+ years scholar who has read dozens of books on a topic and even wrote a few, and you expressed a view and I started to harass you for that, and instead of trying to understand you, I just dismissed you as stupider than a 10 year old child who knows that what you said wasn't 'literally' true. Would that be fair to you? How would you feel to be misunderstood by thousands of people you only ever worked to help?

 

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I may be wrong, but personally I don't see any significant Hindu movement till 20th Century, where they tried to end the caste system and tried to give Dalits equal rights as upper caste Hindus. 

There were hundreds of Rajas and Hindu states before 20th Century, but almost no respect for Dalits in all of them. 

This concept of "majority" is linked to Western type democracy. 

Thus first attempts were made by high caste Hindus, to bring respect to Dalits was primarily only in the 20th century when they wanted Dalit numbers to have absolute majority in democracy form of government. 

 

 

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10 minutes ago, Alam_dar said:

 

I may be wrong, but personally I don't see any significant Hindu movement till 20th Century, where they tried to end the caste system and tried to give Dalits equal rights as upper caste Hindus. 

There were hundreds of Rajas and Hindu states before 20th Century, but almost no respect for Dalits in all of them. 

This concept of "majority" is linked to Western type democracy. 

Thus first attempts were made by high caste Hindus, to bring respect to Dalits was primarily only in the 20th century when they wanted Dalit numbers to have absolute majority in democracy form of government. 

What are you trying to achieve or what exactly is it that you want to hear ?

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48 minutes ago, Alam_dar said:

 

 

A comment by Himanshu:

 

I don't speak for her here, my interpretation here is my own, but at least it's obvious to me that she doesn't mean that literally. She probably meant that the idea of Hinduism, of people for eg. rallying in masses in the name of being a Hindu, etc. was invented in 20th century. Like, there were no discussions about Hindu vs. Muslim, or mob lynchings, etc. in 8th century right? Probably because there WASN'T any other religion (known to people in majority) at all. It's only recently that when people really became conscious of other religions that their own identity as a Hindu made sense and the concept of 'Hindu' was created. (if everyone you ever knew was Hindu and nobody told you that there are other religions people could be, then the word 'Hindu' and 'religion' would be meaningless). Now i don't agree with her view, and someone who agrees might still disagree on the exact century or the exact way that this occurred, but i can at least understand that this is what she might have meant. Think about it like this. Haven't you ever been misunderstood by someone else? Imagine if you were a 10+ years scholar who has read dozens of books on a topic and even wrote a few, and you expressed a view and I started to harass you for that, and instead of trying to understand you, I just dismissed you as stupider than a 10 year old child who knows that what you said wasn't 'literally' true. Would that be fair to you? How would you feel to be misunderstood by thousands of people you only ever worked to help?

 

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I may be wrong, but personally I don't see any significant Hindu movement till 20th Century, where they tried to end the caste system and tried to give Dalits equal rights as upper caste Hindus. 

There were hundreds of Rajas and Hindu states before 20th Century, but almost no respect for Dalits in all of them. 

This concept of "majority" is linked to Western type democracy. 

Thus first attempts were made by high caste Hindus, to bring respect to Dalits was primarily only in the 20th century when they wanted Dalit numbers to have absolute majority in democracy form of government. 

 

 

Aadi guru shankaracharya United Hindus under one banner way before 20th century, bhakti movement was way before 20th century, the pioneers of bhakti movement like Tulsidas, meerabai, kabir, were way before 20th century so yes u are wrong, infact very wrong. 

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3 hours ago, vayuu1 said:

Aadi guru shankaracharya United Hindus under one banner way before 20th century, bhakti movement was way before 20th century, the pioneers of bhakti movement like Tulsidas, meerabai, kabir, were way before 20th century so yes u are wrong, infact very wrong. 

If Adi Shankarachariya really asked people to respect Dalits and Shudars, even then still I don't see that struggle of Aadi Shankaracharya (of 8th century) played any influence on the behavior of Hindu Kings during last 1000 years. Even today still Dalits are considered untouchables. 

 

 

 

 

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