vvvslaxman Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 You could confidently say this now. Bringing back guys like Gauti, Yuvi, Raina now Rayudu out of the wilderness in the name of experience effectively killed the opportunity to build a vibrant young team. Also from time to time he was bringing back Rahane for no reason. He basically doesn't want to be surrounded by noobs. Only good thing he has done so far encouraging fast bowlers. Rest of things are chaotic. He tries to paper over the cracks with his own batting. He could do only so much. Gollum, wanted_desi, Switchblade and 6 others 1 1 7 Link to comment
Gollum Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 He wants to kill competition, his target are the other batsmen, not the bowlers. India will never have a great batting unit as long as this insecure guy is in charge. UrmiSinhaRay, nevada, vvvslaxman and 3 others 2 3 1 Link to comment
Gollum Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 (edited) If you guys think Gill, Shaw, Mayank, Pant, Iyer, Rahul etc will be groomed post the WC you are delusional. Even if we lose all 9 matches in the WC by record margins this top 3 will continue, neither will there be a change in our outdated batting approach. Aim is to divide the spoils/records among the selfish, overrated top 3 and get lion's share of endorsements/plaudits. Kohli would ideally want to be the only guy to benefit but things beyond his control dictate that he share the spoils with Bunty's bro-in-law and wife's bestie. If UV, Raina could get a continuous run post 2015 WC, rest assured Rahane, Rayudu, Karthik, Pandey etc will be in the reckoning for 2023 WC. If Kohli continues as skipper for long in white ball formats, Indian cricket will suffer worse than during Azhar's reign. Forget results, this team will get even more boring and we fans will be forced to skip our batting innings in an era where the other top teams are breaking barriers and setting new standards. Which jobless moron will tune in to watch our boring batsmen if this **** continues for long? Edited March 29, 2019 by Gollum Nonbeliever, mishra, Jimmy Cliff and 2 others 1 2 1 1 Link to comment
wanted_desi Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 I did mention it long time ago that it is not in interest of Kohli to develop any of the young batsman, as there is just too much money at stake. A young rising star batsman wouldn't have not only give competition for ads, but him being a captain after WC2019. He will be leading the team for WC2023,there is no way he is getting fired even after failing to reach semifinals. Nonbeliever, UrmiSinhaRay, sandeep and 1 other 1 1 2 Link to comment
mani sha Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 Dont think money is the issue . Issue here is that of brains Kohli is a v good batter but v poor captain He relies on a Dhoni to place fields Also likes yes men arnd him a shastri is perhaps bigger curse than kohli . The bcci let a talented but temperamental young guy become captain and here we are - he should have been dropped after ct finals - a brainless display of overconfidence Link to comment
ShoonyaSifar Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 11 hours ago, vvvslaxman said: You could confidently say this now. Bringing back guys like Gauti, Yuvi, Raina now Rayudu out of the wilderness in the name of experience effectively killed the opportunity to build a vibrant young team. Also from time to time he was bringing back Rahane for no reason. He basically doesn't want to be surrounded by noobs. Only good thing he has done so far encouraging fast bowlers. Rest of things are chaotic. He tries to paper over the cracks with his own batting. He could do only so much. ODI team is still not Kohli's team. This team still plays the Dhoni brand of cricket. See in tests how easily Mayank and Shaw came in or even Bumrah and Kuldeep. Contrast this with LOIs where its the same old brand of cricket we are playing. We even keep picking the Dhoni era style trundlers for LOIs. Not long before Kohli regrets his decision of blindly supporting Dhoni. Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 Lets not make it about other issues like money or competition coz its not. Simple he aint a good captain.......some has it some doesnt. SK_IH and philcric 2 Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 9 minutes ago, ShoonyaSifar said: ODI team is still not Kohli's team. This team still plays the Dhoni brand of cricket. See in tests how easily Mayank and Shaw came in or even Bumrah and Kuldeep. Even test team was given to him by pretty much dhoni- batting core is same , in bowling just kuldeep n bumrah have been added and pandya who was not avl to dhoni so he played binny in some games . Mayank, shaw, vihari,pant got in team coz it came to a point when no choice was left whereas they shud have made it on merit itself. Link to comment
SK_IH Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 (edited) 29 minutes ago, ShoonyaSifar said: ODI team is still not Kohli's team. This team still plays the Dhoni brand of cricket. See in tests how easily Mayank and Shaw came in or even Bumrah and Kuldeep. Contrast this with LOIs where its the same old brand of cricket we are playing. We even keep picking the Dhoni era style trundlers for LOIs. Not long before Kohli regrets his decision of blindly supporting Dhoni. But RCB is not Dhoni's team, its Kohli's team where we see all the same problems. Edited March 29, 2019 by SK_IH Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 9 minutes ago, SK_IH said: But RCB is not Dhoni's team, its Kohli's team where we see all the same problems. that to every year with same set of problem which havent been addressed till now . SK_IH 1 Link to comment
Nikola Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 Kohli needs to remember if he wouldn't have got chance to play for india at such young age then he would have not been player he is now. Sadly he backs player who have been failures in past or have past their peak. Gollum 1 Link to comment
RAZPOR Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 Without a doubt ,this team had makings of a champion team but for the terrible and spineless selection policies of kohli Gollum 1 Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted March 29, 2019 Author Share Posted March 29, 2019 When you listen to Kohli's comments on Gill you would think he will back him. But he continues backing "young potential from 2003" . Gollum 1 Link to comment
jusarrived Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 2 hours ago, ShoonyaSifar said: ODI team is still not Kohli's team. This team still plays the Dhoni brand of cricket. See in tests how easily Mayank and Shaw came in or even Bumrah and Kuldeep. Contrast this with LOIs where its the same old brand of cricket we are playing. We even keep picking the Dhoni era style trundlers for LOIs. Not long before Kohli regrets his decision of blindly supporting Dhoni. You keep repeating the same . Whats different about test team ? Mayank and Kuldeep came into the side easily ? lol we are still playing Dhawan and Rohit sharma in tests . Link to comment
putrevus Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 14 hours ago, vvvslaxman said: You could confidently say this now. Bringing back guys like Gauti, Yuvi, Raina now Rayudu out of the wilderness in the name of experience effectively killed the opportunity to build a vibrant young team. Also from time to time he was bringing back Rahane for no reason. He basically doesn't want to be surrounded by noobs. Only good thing he has done so far encouraging fast bowlers. Rest of things are chaotic. He tries to paper over the cracks with his own batting. He could do only so much. That is utter nonsense, who are those people he should build his team around. Link to comment
jusarrived Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 7 minutes ago, putrevus said: That is utter nonsense, who are those people he should build his team around. Ate you seriously telling us india suddenly in last few years has no talent ? There is no one better than Rohit and Dhawan for tests ? bahubali and Gollum 2 Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 (edited) 18 minutes ago, putrevus said: That is utter nonsense, who are those people he should build his team around. ur talking about Indian team who has the best bench strength in the world as if we have scarcity. Give this guy the talent of 2000s aussie he wont even get the best out of them coz to do that u need to back. Take symonds example in 2003 Wc when ponting fought n took him, had he played for kohli 2 failures n discarded Take RCB example, players who fail in RCB start performing for other franchise.....look at watson. Watson was wasted in RCB , wasnt given a defined role and then we all saw what he did in CSK last yr . Edited March 29, 2019 by Ankit_sharma03 sandeep, bahubali and Gollum 3 Link to comment
putrevus Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 20 minutes ago, jusarrived said: Ate you seriously telling us india suddenly in last few years has no talent ? There is no one better than Rohit and Dhawan for tests ? You mean you will not try a talent like Sharma in tests before discarding after he scored two hundreds in home series. I don't see any talented batsmen, do you see any if yes let me know. Sharma and Dhawan had to be given a chance to see if they could succeed before discarding them for good.People kept talking as if Rahul was Bradman and him missing the first test in SA was the reason for that series loss. Link to comment
sandeep Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 1 hour ago, putrevus said: That is utter nonsense, who are those people he should build his team around. Rishabh Pant should have started getting regular LOI opportunities at least 15 months ago. Fact that he has played only a handful of ODIs, when India have a desperate shortage of power-hitting in the batting lineup, says it all. KL Rahul should have been rotated in as an ODI opener at least 5-10 times. But he was shoved down into the middle order and then put on the bench when it was clear that wasn't going to work so well. These are just 2 obvious names. Lot more could have been done, if the will was there. Virat Kohli has shown that he values "experience" over youth and potential. And its a strategy that has created gaping holes in the Indian middle order, and if Brohit continues slumping - at the top as well. bahubali and Gollum 2 Link to comment
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