rageaddict Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 New Delhi: India's assertion that its fighter pilot shot down a Pakistani F-16 fighter jet in a dogfight in February may not be correct, American news publication Foreign Policy has claimed in a report quoting unnamed US defense officials. "Two senior US defense officials with direct knowledge of the situation told Foreign Policy that U.S. personnel recently counted Islamabad's F-16s and found none missing," the publication says in a report published on Thursday. The government had said that in an aerial duel on February 27 - a day after India sent fighter jets to Pakistan's Balakot to strike a terror training camp - Indian Air Force pilot Abhinandan Varthaman had engaged with one of the Pakistani fighter jets that tried to target Indian military facilities and shot it down before he was hit and forced to eject. Abhinandan Varthaman landed across the Line of Control and was in Pakistani custody for three days before he was returned to India amid attempts to de-escalate the crisis between the two sides. According to the Foreign Policy magazine, Pakistan invited the United States to physically count its F-16 planes after the incident as part of an end-user agreement signed when the foreign military sale was finalized. "A US count of Pakistan's F-16 fleet has found that all the jets are present and accounted for, a direct contradiction to India's claim that it shot down one of the fighter jets during a February clash," Lara Seligman of the magazine reports. The count has been completed, and "all aircraft were present and accounted for", an unnamed official is quoted as saying. "It is possible that in the heat of combat, Varthaman, flying a vintage MiG-21 Bison, got a lock on the Pakistani F-16, fired, and genuinely believed he scored a hit. But the count, conducted by U.S. authorities on the ground in Pakistan, sheds doubt on New Delhi's version of events, suggesting that Indian authorities may have misled the international community about what happened that day," says Foreign Policy. https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/us-count-found-no-pakistan-f-16s-missing-contradicts-indias-claim-foreign-policy-report-2018244 More embarrassment coming for Bharat after the bogus claim of bombing 300 Jihadis. Offcourse nobody can call out the Government and IAF over spouting lies as there is a threat of being labelled a Deshdrohi and Pakistani lover by the Patriots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asim Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 an addition to series of embarrassments for india since 27th Feb... Laaloo and Suhaan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FischerTal Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 12 minutes ago, Asim said: an addition to series of embarrassments for india since 27th Feb... Open your airspace first, mr.nuclear “power” Gollum 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollum Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 (edited) I am confused whether OP is Indian (frustrated Hindutva) or secret Pakistani. I have seen him make anti-Pakistan, anti-Muslim, pro-Hindutva posts. But he also runs down/abuses our army and achievers from time to time, does the North-South divide (another level, inflammatory) etc. Edited April 5, 2019 by Gollum Real McCoy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FischerTal Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 35 minutes ago, rageaddict said: New Delhi: India's assertion that its fighter pilot shot down a Pakistani F-16 fighter jet in a dogfight in February may not be correct, American news publication Foreign Policy has claimed in a report quoting unnamed US defense officials. "Two senior US defense officials with direct knowledge of the situation told Foreign Policy that U.S. personnel recently counted Islamabad's F-16s and found none missing," the publication says in a report published on Thursday. The government had said that in an aerial duel on February 27 - a day after India sent fighter jets to Pakistan's Balakot to strike a terror training camp - Indian Air Force pilot Abhinandan Varthaman had engaged with one of the Pakistani fighter jets that tried to target Indian military facilities and shot it down before he was hit and forced to eject. Abhinandan Varthaman landed across the Line of Control and was in Pakistani custody for three days before he was returned to India amid attempts to de-escalate the crisis between the two sides. According to the Foreign Policy magazine, Pakistan invited the United States to physically count its F-16 planes after the incident as part of an end-user agreement signed when the foreign military sale was finalized. "A US count of Pakistan's F-16 fleet has found that all the jets are present and accounted for, a direct contradiction to India's claim that it shot down one of the fighter jets during a February clash," Lara Seligman of the magazine reports. The count has been completed, and "all aircraft were present and accounted for", an unnamed official is quoted as saying. "It is possible that in the heat of combat, Varthaman, flying a vintage MiG-21 Bison, got a lock on the Pakistani F-16, fired, and genuinely believed he scored a hit. But the count, conducted by U.S. authorities on the ground in Pakistan, sheds doubt on New Delhi's version of events, suggesting that Indian authorities may have misled the international community about what happened that day," says Foreign Policy. https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/us-count-found-no-pakistan-f-16s-missing-contradicts-indias-claim-foreign-policy-report-2018244 More embarrassment coming for Bharat after the bogus claim of bombing 300 Jihadis. Offcourse nobody can call out the Government and IAF over spouting lies as there is a threat of being labelled a Deshdrohi and Pakistani lover by the Patriots. So much embarrassment as the Pentagon is not willing to go on record and make this official, so let’s believe some journalist and her undisclosed sources. IAF has electronic signatures that pinpoint the F-16 going down. All this will do is force them to make that evidence public now. Lockheed is pissed that they are effectively out of the MmRCA deal after f-16 was proven to be a dud being handled by your dud pilots. randomGuy, Laaloo, Real McCoy and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollum Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 37 minutes ago, rageaddict said: New Delhi: India's assertion that its fighter pilot shot down a Pakistani F-16 fighter jet in a dogfight in February may not be correct, American news publication Foreign Policy has claimed in a report quoting unnamed US defense officials. "Two senior US defense officials with direct knowledge of the situation told Foreign Policy that U.S. personnel recently counted Islamabad's F-16s and found none missing," the publication says in a report published on Thursday. The government had said that in an aerial duel on February 27 - a day after India sent fighter jets to Pakistan's Balakot to strike a terror training camp - Indian Air Force pilot Abhinandan Varthaman had engaged with one of the Pakistani fighter jets that tried to target Indian military facilities and shot it down before he was hit and forced to eject. Abhinandan Varthaman landed across the Line of Control and was in Pakistani custody for three days before he was returned to India amid attempts to de-escalate the crisis between the two sides. According to the Foreign Policy magazine, Pakistan invited the United States to physically count its F-16 planes after the incident as part of an end-user agreement signed when the foreign military sale was finalized. "A US count of Pakistan's F-16 fleet has found that all the jets are present and accounted for, a direct contradiction to India's claim that it shot down one of the fighter jets during a February clash," Lara Seligman of the magazine reports. The count has been completed, and "all aircraft were present and accounted for", an unnamed official is quoted as saying. "It is possible that in the heat of combat, Varthaman, flying a vintage MiG-21 Bison, got a lock on the Pakistani F-16, fired, and genuinely believed he scored a hit. But the count, conducted by U.S. authorities on the ground in Pakistan, sheds doubt on New Delhi's version of events, suggesting that Indian authorities may have misled the international community about what happened that day," says Foreign Policy. https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/us-count-found-no-pakistan-f-16s-missing-contradicts-indias-claim-foreign-policy-report-2018244 More embarrassment coming for Bharat after the bogus claim of bombing 300 Jihadis. Offcourse nobody can call out the Government and IAF over spouting lies as there is a threat of being labelled a Deshdrohi and Pakistani lover by the Patriots. Bogus claim? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarke Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 21 minutes ago, Asim said: an addition to series of embarrassments for india since 27th Feb... Did the weather over balakot clear out ? Or there's still pending repair work on the jihadi camp ? sergio04, Real McCoy, Gollum and 5 others 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 https://twitter.com/ShivAroor/status/1114057922819104769 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollum Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 (edited) I think ICF needs a mass clean up now, going against my normal stance. Too many accounts have sprung up in the recent past, and if you go through those posts it is clear what their motive us. Post Pulwama and before these elections a lot of dubious accounts are parroting the enemy line. Also some old time posters have revealed their true selves, hard to carry on with a disguise for too long I guess. Hope admins take back control of the site, this is an Indian forum and should remain so. Edited April 5, 2019 by Gollum Vilander, Turning_track, Laaloo and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 (edited) Edited April 5, 2019 by Number dial_100, sergio04, FischerTal and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarke Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 (edited) "unnamed sources" in "foreign policy magazine", not the definitive source of truth. It's still an ours vs theirs claim. Maybe we shot down f-16, maybe we shot down another aircraft, maybe we didn't shoot down anything on account of lack of complete evidence. Edited April 5, 2019 by Clarke Laaloo, Real McCoy and velu 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 https://twitter.com/RadioPakistan/status/1100665347135455232 FischerTal, velu, Gollum and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 I hope the Yahoodi Paaylate theory is true for the sake of face of DGISPR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chewy Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 Pakistani still getting sleepless nights, keep the conspiracies coming, bastards can't seem to get peaceful sleep dial_100, Gollum and FischerTal 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asim Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 Now I'd strongly suggest, someone plz count IAF Piolets too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FischerTal Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 3 Indian pilots, then 2, then 1. DG-ISPR seems like a well-trained liar to me Gollum 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FischerTal Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 15 minutes ago, Asim said: Now I'd strongly suggest, someone plz count IAF Piolets too First ask gafoora how many Indian pilots were in custody? 3,2, or 1? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollum Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Clarke said: "unnamed sources" in "foreign policy magazine", not the definitive source of truth. That's all there is. Unnamed sources in foreign policy magazine and Pak!s here have a collective orgasm. Pak!s are bastards anyway, but the Pak!s here pretending to be Indian are even worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randomGuy Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 42 minutes ago, FischerTal said: 3 Indian pilots, then 2, then 1. DG-ISPR seems like a well-trained liar to me That's what. Shakal se aur Andaaz se sachcha no. 1. Extremely well trained and a natural one FischerTal 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alam_dar Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 2 hours ago, Asim said: an addition to series of embarrassments for india since 27th Feb... I believe that despite all these things, the FINAL victory went to India. India very successfully destroyed the legitimacy of the Kashmir resistance for liberation by linking it to Hafiz Saeed. Whole world turned a lot against Pakistan and Pakistani supported Jihadists after this incident, and thus the final victory still belonged to India. Pakistan was under a very huge pressure this time. And if any such attack once again happens in Kashmir, then Pakistan will get even more pressure and I don't think it would be able to resist so much pressure. Supporting the Jihadist outfits is not in interest of Pakistan. Fighting for Kashmir is not in the interest of the people of the region. It seems to me that present Pakistani government want to solve Kashmir problem with talks (like in Musharraf era), but this time Indian Government of BJP is not ready and they are eyeing on taking control of whole Kashmir by power like Israel did in Golan and other parts of Palestine. chewy, sergio04 and Clarke 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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