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Ambati Rayudu and Rishabh Pant might be disappointed at being left out of India's World Cup squad, but the duo is part of the three players named as standbys by the selectors.

ESPNcricinfo understands that the selectors proposed having Rayudu, Pant and Delhi fast bowler Navdeep Saini as three back-ups in case there was any injury in the 15-man squad that was announced on Monday.

It is understood that there is no order in which one of the three standbys would be picked, but the selectors would make their choice depending on the requirement of the team in case of an injury to the main squad player.

 

Out of the three standbys, only Saini will travel to England currently as he is also part of the quartet of net bowlers that the BCCI approved to travel with the squad. Along with Saini, Deepak Chahar, Mohammed Khaleel and Avesh Khan would be part of the Indian entourage.

The development comes as minor solace for Rayudu and Pant, who were considered favourites in the lead-up to the selection. MSK Prasad, the chairman of Indian selection committee, said that Rayudu lost his spot to Tamil Nadu batting allrounder Vijay Shankar because the latter brought "three dimensions."

Although Pant has not reacted in any form, Rayudu posted a cryptic message on his Twitter on Tuesday saying he had ordered a 3-D glasses to watch the World Cup. It is believed that both the BCCI and the selectors have noted Rayudu's reaction which they described as emotional.

 

Link - http://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/26543651/ambati-rayudu-rishabh-pant-navdeep-saini-named-wc-standbys

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1 hour ago, rkt.india said:

Avesh is just 22 and has more potential.  While Saini is at his peak at 26 and is an experienced FC bowler. Saini is the present, Avesh is the future.

I agree....

 

Saini on Present Skills deserved to be in 15.

but now he is the 16th...who knows he gets an opportunity anyway.

i think they could have dropped CHAHAL or Jaddu and Picked Saini.

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7 minutes ago, chewy said:

thank goodness, Shanker was picked ahead of Rayudu

 

I do not have much expectations from him-

I am kinda seriously worried that after the pressure created by shammi bumrah and bhuvi n kuldeep, he could be attacked big time , hardik may not ball 10 overs and his 2 or 3 overs could be attacked big time too.

 

but bhuvi bumrah and shammi look to be in good form.

hardik does not look in full rhythm and vj shankar looks exactly like Binny definitely not better.

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33 minutes ago, vishalvirsingh said:

I do not have much expectations from him-

I am kinda seriously worried that after the pressure created by shammi bumrah and bhuvi n kuldeep, he could be attacked big time , hardik may not ball 10 overs and his 2 or 3 overs could be attacked big time too.

 

but bhuvi bumrah and shammi look to be in good form.

hardik does not look in full rhythm and vj shankar looks exactly like Binny definitely not better.

DUde he is a 6th bowling option. You forgot Kul cha. Pandya/Shankar will share middle overs.  He won a game by bowling last over. Umesh the "fast bowler" you like could not protect 14 runs against 2 Australia tailenders.

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Looks like Hardik still has fitness issues and might not play all the matches... They might play Vijay Shankar + Jadeja + Kuldeep and three pacers in those matches, so Jadeja and Shankar can bowl 10 overs between them

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7 hours ago, vvvslaxman said:

DUde he is a 6th bowling option. You forgot Kul cha. Pandya/Shankar will share middle overs.  He won a game by bowling last over. Umesh the "fast bowler" you like could not protect 14 runs against 2 Australia tailenders.

I have given up on Umesh. He is history. 

Fast bowling is about hard work and rhythm.. Umesh has practiced less that's why he is bowling under 140k and he looses his line n length often. 

Today v have atleast 4 pacers ahead of him because they are in rhythm and at their peak.. See shammi... Bumrah.. Even Saini.. I m seeing prasidh also about to reach there. 

Exactly Pandya may bowl 6 overs n get thrashed then Shankar will come in.. I am worried that big hitters don't end up targeting them. 

I predict that Mr Shankar will be Attacked big time and even Chahal won't get much turn on pitches that don't support spin n will be attacked. 

Kuldeep is a bit of mystery still so he will succeed. 

Bumrah Kuldeep shammi and Bhuvi will succeed. 

Hardik Shankar Chahal will fail. 

Kulcha won't get assistance from swing and pace friendly conditions so I l not be surprised if both fail. 

If conditions become swing friendly then Bhuvi will become india's spearhead and he will rock. If it doesn't swing muc and helps pace  bumrah n shammi will rock.. Bumrah will be our spearhead. 

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5 hours ago, bowl_out said:

Looks like Hardik still has fitness issues and might not play all the matches... They might play Vijay Shankar + Jadeja + Kuldeep and three pacers in those matches, so Jadeja and Shankar can bowl 10 overs between them

Did u get any information on hardik's fitness... 

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1 hour ago, vvvslaxman said:

Someone like Saini might be handy to rattle teams like padosis, Sri Lankas, bangla boys who don't like pace.

Saini could finish off pak bangla even Afghanistan.. Take 3 wickets.. 

If conditions are not swing friendly he could be played ahead of Bhuvi. 

Selectors messed up in not picking him.. If conditions are pace friendly.. He could become unplayable. 

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13 hours ago, Mosher said:

Saini, Avesh, Khaleel and Chahar will be going to the WC as net bowlers. 

 

Prasidh should have been picked as the 5th pacer.

 

His height and steep bounce at high pace,  would provide ideal practice to team India for facing tall quick bowlers like Rabada, Cummins, Plunkett, Archer, Gabriel, Thomas etc.

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7 hours ago, vishalvirsingh said:

I have given up on Umesh. He is history. 

Fast bowling is about hard work and rhythm.. Umesh has practiced less that's why he is bowling under 140k and he looses his line n length often. 

Today v have atleast 4 pacers ahead of him because they are in rhythm and at their peak.. See shammi... Bumrah.. Even Saini.. I m seeing prasidh also about to reach there. 

Exactly Pandya may bowl 6 overs n get thrashed then Shankar will come in.. I am worried that big hitters don't end up targeting them. 

I predict that Mr Shankar will be Attacked big time and even Chahal won't get much turn on pitches that don't support spin n will be attacked. 

Kuldeep is a bit of mystery still so he will succeed. 

Bumrah Kuldeep shammi and Bhuvi will succeed. 

Hardik Shankar Chahal will fail. 

Kulcha won't get assistance from swing and pace friendly conditions so I l not be surprised if both fail. 

If conditions become swing friendly then Bhuvi will become india's spearhead and he will rock. If it doesn't swing muc and helps pace  bumrah n shammi will rock.. Bumrah will be our spearhead. 

Your basis on why he will fail depends a lot on who he bowls to , in what situation he bowls to. The way i see it, if he doesn't bowl garbage he should be safe. Problem is if you bowl bad balls regardless of situation teams will punish you. This guy rarely bowls bad balls. If you want to score against him you have to take some chance which is more than enough for a 6th seamer. Pandya on the other hand is bowling a lot of rubbish balls post his injury. As it is our batting line up in the end it is wafer thin. We can't include another seamer. Shankar/Pandya sharing 5 overs each is a much better option. In one dayers it is very easy to hide your 5th bowler. No team is going to attack 5th bowler regardless as one careless shot will lead to collapse.  We are not facing England 6 times. We play each team once. Most of the foreign teams will struggle against spin except may be England.

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6 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

Your basis on why he will fail depends a lot on who he bowls to , in what situation he bowls to. The way i see it, if he doesn't bowl garbage he should be safe. Problem is if you bowl bad balls regardless of situation teams will punish you. This guy rarely bowls bad balls. If you want to score against him you have to take some chance which is more than enough for a 6th seamer. Pandya on the other hand is bowling a lot of rubbish balls post his injury. As it is our batting line up in the end it is wafer thin. We can't include another seamer. Shankar/Pandya sharing 5 overs each is a much better option. In one dayers it is very easy to hide your 5th bowler. No team is going to attack 5th bowler regardless as one careless shot will lead to collapse.  We are not facing England 6 times. We play each team once. Most of the foreign teams will struggle against spin except may be England.

You have a point.

Point I am trying to share is when I open or any attacking batsmen opens and he comes out of jail (remains not out after facing terror bumrah n swing of bhuvi)...he sees weak bowlers as easy meat. I do so..I attack the weak bowlers and more often I succeed..batting is a totally mental game if u r bold , u score else otherwise.

Seeing a weak bowler, the inside lion of a batsman comes out and attacks the bowler and more often kills the bowler.

 

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Selecting Vijay Shankar over rayudu was absolutely the best decision MSK has ever made. I have no problems with this decision. Vijay Shankar is fitter, a better LOI batsman and a part time bowling option as well. Dunno why rayudu had to make that pathetic 3d comment. Sore loser !

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8 minutes ago, vishalvirsingh said:

You have a point.

Point I am trying to share is when I open or any attacking batsmen opens and he comes out of jail (remains not out after facing terror bumrah n swing of bhuvi)...he sees weak bowlers as easy meat. I do so..I attack the weak bowlers and more often I succeed..batting is a totally mental game if u r bold , u score else otherwise.

Seeing a weak bowler, the inside lion of a batsman comes out and attacks the bowler and more often kills the bowler.

 

So far from what i have seen he is a much better bowler than lot of main bowlers from the international side also some specialists from our side. First and foremost he has the height. He can extract bounce from a good length. Second he has a shape to the ball in conducive conditions. Third he is reasonably accurate. 

 

So far his bowling doesn't look horrible. In the match he went for runs early on , he came back very well and won the game. Just don't use him in the power play like Kohli did there.

 

6.0 0 23 0 3.83 3 1   Australia Melbourne 18 Jan 2019 ODI # 4079
4.0 0 19 0 4.75 3 1   New Zealand Napier 23 Jan 2019 ODI # 4082
2.0 0 17 0 8.50 3 2   New Zealand Mount Maunganui 26 Jan 2019 ODI # 4085
4.0 0 19 0 4.75 4 2   New Zealand Wellington 3 Feb 2019 ODI # 4092
3.0 0 22 0 7.33 3 1   Australia Hyderabad (Deccan) 2 Mar 2019 ODI # 4102
1.3 0 15 2 10.00 4 2   Australia Nagpur 5 Mar 2019 ODI # 4106
8.0 0 44 0 5.50 5 1   Australia Ranchi 8 Mar 2019 ODI # 4109
5.0 0 29 0 5.80 3 2   Australia Mohali 10 Mar 2019 ODI # 4111
DNB - - - - - 1   Australia Delhi 13 Mar 2019 ODI # 4113

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16 minutes ago, Nikhil_cric said:

Selecting Vijay Shankar over rayudu was absolutely the best decision MSK has ever made. I have no problems with this decision. Vijay Shankar is fitter, a better LOI batsman and a part time bowling option as well. Dunno why rayudu had to make that pathetic 3d comment. Sore loser !

There is nothing wrong in being one-dimensional. Bumrah/Shami/Kul/Cha all are one-dimensional. Can't field Can't bat. But they are blood good at their main job. This guy sucks ball in his main job.

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3 hours ago, vvvslaxman said:

So far from what i have seen he is a much better bowler than lot of main bowlers from the international side also some specialists from our side. First and foremost he has the height. He can extract bounce from a good length. Second he has a shape to the ball in conducive conditions. Third he is reasonably accurate. 

 

So far his bowling doesn't look horrible. In the match he went for runs early on , he came back very well and won the game. Just don't use him in the power play like Kohli did there.

 

6.0 0 23 0 3.83 3 1   Australia Melbourne 18 Jan 2019 ODI # 4079
4.0 0 19 0 4.75 3 1   New Zealand Napier 23 Jan 2019 ODI # 4082
2.0 0 17 0 8.50 3 2   New Zealand Mount Maunganui 26 Jan 2019 ODI # 4085
4.0 0 19 0 4.75 4 2   New Zealand Wellington 3 Feb 2019 ODI # 4092
3.0 0 22 0 7.33 3 1   Australia Hyderabad (Deccan) 2 Mar 2019 ODI # 4102
1.3 0 15 2 10.00 4 2   Australia Nagpur 5 Mar 2019 ODI # 4106
8.0 0 44 0 5.50 5 1   Australia Ranchi 8 Mar 2019 ODI # 4109
5.0 0 29 0 5.80 3 2   Australia Mohali 10 Mar 2019 ODI # 4111
DNB - - - - - 1   Australia Delhi 13 Mar 2019 ODI # 4113

u r saying that he gets good bounce and has a good line n length.

I think in the world cup, best players would be playing and i see his pace is so gentle that one is tempted to attack him.

I feel he will be attacked big time, he may get a few wickets.

I see him as good as STUART BINNY nothing better.

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3 hours ago, Nikhil_cric said:

Selecting Vijay Shankar over rayudu was absolutely the best decision MSK has ever made. I have no problems with this decision. Vijay Shankar is fitter, a better LOI batsman and a part time bowling option as well. Dunno why rayudu had to make that pathetic 3d comment. Sore loser !

shreyas iyer is a better batsman than vijay shankar and i don't think his bowling will make any positive difference to India in any of the matches.

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1 hour ago, vishalvirsingh said:

shreyas iyer is a better batsman than vijay shankar and i don't think his bowling will make any positive difference to India in any of the matches.

Iyer has a loose technique. Shankar has displayed very good batting technique. In whatever chance he got with ball he has done a decent job. Won a match with his bowling.  Stalled a collapse in NZ. Batted beautifully with Kohli (better than him) against Australia. 

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Average speed of Holder, Grande homme, Keemo Paul, Matthews, Phelu and bunch of others bowlers is slower than average speed of Shankar who could reach upto 134 kph. Stokes bowls fast. He is their main bowler. Look at his career ER. 6.13. He bowls mostly in bowler friendly condition.  He gets thwacked by every tom dick and harry in all formats. FIrst of all your premise of "If you bowl fast they won't be tempted to attack" is flat out wrong. 

 

Most expensive fast bowlers in the last couple of years (100 balls min)

 

Jerome Taylor ER 7.00 (fast bowler)

Oshane Thomas ER 7.22 (fast bowler)

Taskin Ahmed ER 7.43 (fast bowler)

Olivier 6.52 (fast bowler)

Stokes 6.23 (fast bowler)

 

Even Starc was going around 5.75. 

 

It is an assumption fast bowlers won't be hit around.

 

Amir a trundler, Faheem a trundler, Mathews trundler, Mustafizur a trundler, Grandhomme a trundler all go under 5 runs per over in the last 2 years

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8 hours ago, vvvslaxman said:

Average speed of Holder, Grande homme, Keemo Paul, Matthews, Phelu and bunch of others bowlers is slower than average speed of Shankar who could reach upto 134 kph. Stokes bowls fast. He is their main bowler. Look at his career ER. 6.13. He bowls mostly in bowler friendly condition.  He gets thwacked by every tom dick and harry in all formats. FIrst of all your premise of "If you bowl fast they won't be tempted to attack" is flat out wrong. 

 

Most expensive fast bowlers in the last couple of years (100 balls min)

 

Jerome Taylor ER 7.00 (fast bowler)

Oshane Thomas ER 7.22 (fast bowler)

Taskin Ahmed ER 7.43 (fast bowler)

Olivier 6.52 (fast bowler)

Stokes 6.23 (fast bowler)

 

Even Starc was going around 5.75. 

 

It is an assumption fast bowlers won't be hit around.

 

Amir a trundler, Faheem a trundler, Mathews trundler, Mustafizur a trundler, Grandhomme a trundler all go under 5 runs per over in the last 2 years

Amir and faheem are trundler since when?

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10 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

Amir and faheem are trundler since when?

They are now. Once in a while hitting 140k won't make them fast bowlers. His average speed was somewhere in the early 130s in the recent series.

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43 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

They are now. Once in a while hitting 140k won't make them fast bowlers. His average speed was somewhere in the early 130s in the recent series.

Aamir trundles in tests, not in ODIs. Faheem also bowls 135-145 kph that is fast medium. Even mustafizur isn't a trundler. 

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15 minutes ago, urnotserious said:

Saini is the second best bowler behind Bumrah in this current set up. Too bad he isn't included over Shami and hit me Bhuvi. 

No need to include in place of shami or bhuvi. We surely needed 4 pacers when we gonna play 10+ matches.

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SHami has been seriously good. We cannot go exclusively by his ability to restrict. Shami is a wicket taker. You need wicket taker. Not "containing bowlers". Teams will eventually figure out a way. All Saini does is bowling short. Some can't slog him. 

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4 hours ago, vvvslaxman said:

SHami has been seriously good. We cannot go exclusively by his ability to restrict. Shami is a wicket taker. You need wicket taker. Not "containing bowlers". Teams will eventually figure out a way. All Saini does is bowling short. Some can't slog him. 

T20 cricket is all about defensive bowling. Some of the best t20 bowlers are defensive bowlers like malinga, narine.

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1 minute ago, rkt.india said:

T20 cricket is all about defensive bowling. Some of the best t20 bowlers are defensive bowlers like malinga, narine.

Malinga and Narine are both wicket takers also defensive bowlers. Saini is mostly a defensive bowler due to his length. Besides we are talking about one-dayer. He is definitely better than Shami or even Bhuvi. 

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9 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

Malinga and Narine are both wicket takers also defensive bowlers. Saini is mostly a defensive bowler due to his length. Besides we are talking about one-dayer. He is definitely better than Shami or even Bhuvi. 

They take wickets because of their defebsive bowling skills. Also regarding Nariane, he was a chucker, took huge advantage of that and has done zlich this IPL in terms of wickets.

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