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Finally they are using Analytics for Player Selection


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1 hour ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

dnt over use it, best calls have been taken on instincts in history of cricket

N how do u analyze rishabh vs karthik when pant has played 10 times lesser games then DK 

You should never go by instincts. One thing baseball teaches correctly is going for higher percentages. All fielding placement and pitching is done by baseball mostly based on Analytics. Humans get emotional and make mistakes but with AI computers will make a better decision.

 

Answering you second question you judge them by their performance based on last few months etc. A performance based on score 10 years back is meaningless today. 

 

Bottomline is that whether we like it or not Analytics is here to stay. This is a correct step taken by BCCI. I am not saying it is perfect but it can be refined to do better with time.

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9 minutes ago, Khota said:

You should never go by instincts. One thing baseball teaches correctly is going for higher percentages. All fielding placement and pitching is done by baseball mostly based on Analytics. Humans get emotional and make mistakes but with AI computers will make a better decision.

Look at history best calls have happened on instincts 

 

Baseball n cricket are 2 diff things. 

Analyis cant predict future either

9 minutes ago, Khota said:

 

Answering you second question you judge them by their performance based on last few months etc. A performance based on score 10 years back is meaningless today. 

what have they played in last mnth ?

9 minutes ago, Khota said:

Bottomline is that whether we like it or not Analytics is here to stay. This is a correct step taken by BCCI. I am not saying it is perfect but it can be refined to do better with time.

they are here to stay but to a limit 

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7 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

Look at history best calls have happened on instincts 

 

 

Lot have games are lost by instincts also.

 

7 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

Baseball n cricket are 2 diff things. 

Analyis cant predict future either

what have they played in last mnth ?

they are here to stay but to a limit 

Both sports are about as similar as they can be. One has evolved more than other though.

 

I said last few months.

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4 hours ago, R!TTER said:

Analytics don't win you games, players do. Rely too much on tech & you'll only make a fool of yourself, if tech is the only "trick in the book" you have then just put robots on the field & enjoy!

You will never get it. This is about player optimization, expending less energy, finding the right player etc. Corprations do it and so do sports. At thet level the game is all mental.

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I don't need to get it, the fact that you had to bring in baseball kinda disproves your own theory. In terms of skill & factors affecting result, cricket is in a league of it's own - heck the ball used makes a major difference in results, try feeding that in a DL supercomputer. England used to be big in Analytics usage, they used the same on SRT & India in 2011, wonder what happened to their superior tactics in the last few years, especially against WI.

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Technology is only as good as what it's designed/intended to be; it's designed and utilized by humans after all.

 

If it takes software & analytics to rule out Pandey & Rahane then that's an improvement over plain jane selectors. If it can't kick out have beens then that's still a problem. 

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Cricket is a vastly more complicated sport than frighin baseball. We all saw what happened to England last world cup when they relied too much on it last time. Data would tell you that Rohit Sharma can murder the short ball. But it won't tell you that prithvi Shaw has more potential as a batsman. You need to consistently back exceptional talents and give them enough chances to show their worth. If two guys competing for a similar spot and have been given enough chances are being considered then yes data analytics has its uses. 

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2 hours ago, philcric said:

 

Baseball is more evolved. Cricket should learn from Baseball and get rid of the pitch.

 

You can either be a smart ass or learn from others. You chose to make a poor decision. 

 

Not one Indian cricket player can meet the athleticism standards of a baseball player. Try to learn frrom others rathe than bein arrogant.

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6 hours ago, Nikhil_cric said:

Cricket is a vastly more complicated sport than frighin baseball. We all saw what happened to England last world cup when they relied too much on it last time. Data would tell you that Rohit Sharma can murder the short ball. But it won't tell you that prithvi Shaw has more potential as a batsman. You need to consistently back exceptional talents and give them enough chances to show their worth. If two guys competing for a similar spot and have been given enough chances are being considered then yes data analytics has its uses. 

No.

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7 hours ago, Clarke said:

Technology is only as good as what it's designed/intended to be; it's designed and utilized by humans after all.

 

If it takes software & analytics to rule out Pandey & Rahane then that's an improvement over plain jane selectors. If it can't kick out have beens then that's still a problem. 

You can always fine tune the parameters. It is always a work in progress as long as you are open minded. No one claims it is perfect.

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3 minutes ago, Khota said:

You can always fine tune the parameters. It is always a work in progress as long as you are open minded. No one claims it is perfect.

Agree with your statement.

 

However, one doesn't even need much tech to select players for conditions and formats. Watching/following it with passion is enough, especially if it's your job!

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20 minutes ago, Clarke said:

Agree with your statement.

 

However, one doesn't even need much tech to select players for conditions and formats. Watching/following it with passion is enough, especially if it's your job!

For majority of team that is correct. When it comes down to two or three final selectiiions than Analytics can help. Like currently Jaddu, DK and Shankar are being debated and I personally agree on two. Maybe I am 100% wrong about my two choices because there is emotion involved.

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On 4/19/2019 at 9:15 AM, Ankit_sharma03 said:

Look at history best calls have happened on instincts 

 

Baseball n cricket are 2 diff things. 

Analyis cant predict future either

what have they played in last mnth ?

they are here to stay but to a limit 

Sport is sport . Idiots used to give much credit to Tendulkar 100 but a rapid 50 in 30 balls by Sehwag was more important .. analytic etc now prove it .

 

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