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Not sarcasm or jinxing or anything but he is pretty good.

 

Early on I thought he was a typical selfish Pakistani  batsman.

 

usually with Pakistan it is either the selfish tuk tuks or the brainless hacks and nothing in between. 

 

However this guy looks quality. Credit where due.

 

 

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2 hours ago, maniac said:

Not sarcasm or jinxing or anything but he is pretty good.

 

Early on I thought he was a typical selfish Pakistani  batsman.

 

usually with Pakistan it is either the selfish tuk tuks or the brainless hacks and nothing in between. 

 

However this guy looks quality. Credit where due.

 

 

There were some good pak players who are neither selfish nor tuk tuk

1) Saeed anwar

2) Imram Khan

3) Inzy

4) Misbah - My personal favourite

 

Coming to this guy, he has future but i thought the same about kohli-look-alike (Can't remember his name)

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3 minutes ago, gakgupta said:

There were some good pak players who are neither selfish nor tuk tuk

1) Saeed anwar

2) Imram Khan

3) Inzy

4) Misbah - My personal favourite

 

Coming to this guy, he has future but i thought the same about kohli-look-alike (Can't remember his name)

shehzad (who was tuk-tuk)

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45 minutes ago, Vijy said:

shehzad (who was tuk-tuk)

Shehzad lost his mojo after getting hit on the head.  By greenbro standards he wasn't half bad as a batsman.  Still one of the few batsmen across the border who can drive a ball to the boundary on the rise.   But his development stalled, and he got delusions of grandeur etc,  lot of mental issues with that one.  

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44 minutes ago, sandeep said:

Shehzad lost his mojo after getting hit on the head.  By greenbro standards he wasn't half bad as a batsman.  Still one of the few batsmen across the border who can drive a ball to the boundary on the rise.   But his development stalled, and he got delusions of grandeur etc,  lot of mental issues with that one.   

All in all, seems like a typical Pakistani in many respects then. Umar Akmal was another who the Pakistani community hyped a lot. I thought they'd finally discarded him some months ago, but he keeps turning up again and again.

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1 hour ago, gakgupta said:

There were some good pak players who are neither selfish nor tuk tuk

1) Saeed anwar

2) Imram Khan

3) Inzy

4) Misbah - My personal favourite

 

Coming to this guy, he has future but i thought the same about kohli-look-alike (Can't remember his name)

If I have to pick one most selfish player produced by Pakistan, Misbah would be the stand out champion. 

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I have rated him for a long time, enjoy his strokeplay. IMO he has a higher ceiling than Mohd Yousuf, can be Pakistan's best overall (all formats) batsman since Inzi. Will follow him closely this WC, Pak's chances hinge mainly around him. 

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Is 24 his actual age or Pak standard age? If it is the former, I see him ending his career as a Pak great. He seems to have a cool head on his shoulders which is a rarity for Pak batting prospects. 

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Averages 56 in Australia with a century and half century, so not bad, ODIs. In t20Is he’s done well against everyone and in tests he didn’t do too badly in South Africa. He’s still young and improving.

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He was highly rated at even the u19 level.  Gotten better with experience...has a wise and calm composure to back it up. Without people noticing much, he raking up centuries and scoring at a decent rate.  Needs to start converting in Tests now..had a decent SA tour.

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I know present Steyn is way past his prime but the way Babar took him apart in the RSA tests, haven't seen such kind of treatment meted out to the legend since Michael Clarke/KP days. Not for a moment comparing them, but it takes some chutzpah to stand up against legends (cutting across sports) no matter how old and weak they are, Manju talked about this in his book which made for an interesting chapter. 

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8 minutes ago, Gollum said:

I know present Steyn is way past his prime but the way Babar took him apart in the RSA tests, haven't seen such kind of treatment meted out to the legend since Michael Clarke/KP days. Not for a moment comparing them, but it takes some chutzpah to stand up against legends (cutting across sports) no matter how old and weak they are, Manju talked about this in his book which made for an interesting chapter. 

You bought Manju's book :hmmmm2:

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@maniac summer assignment for you.

 

Make threads about:

Bairstow

Butler

Root

Stokes

Woakes

Archer

Ali

Roy

Morgan

Smith

Warner

Starc

Cummins

Maxwell

.....

 

You start with these names and I will add suggestions. Do your national duty, even though you are sitting somewhere else...phir bhi dil hai Hindustani.  

 

Regards and thanking you in anticipation.

 

Mods and admins, please give him full liberty to open as many threads as he wants in the coming days. If he opens one about Indian WC squad personnel or Rayudu, perma ban him:p: 

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On 5/8/2019 at 10:37 AM, sandeep said:

Banjo with great power comes great responsibility.  Remember this during the WC before you get itchy fingers, when it comes to Indian team

cant leave it to chance, need to alert some mod to be on the prowl if some jinx thread comes from the baba.united

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4 hours ago, Gollum said:

I know present Steyn is way past his prime but the way Babar took him apart in the RSA tests, haven't seen such kind of treatment meted out to the legend since Michael Clarke/KP days. Not for a moment comparing them, but it takes some chutzpah to stand up against legends (cutting across sports) no matter how old and weak they are, Manju talked about this in his book which made for an interesting chapter. 

it was impressive, but he had the advantage of coming in at 5 against a very weak Steyn IMO. Peak Steyn would have destroyed this Pakistani lineup incl. Azam. With that said, Azam is clearly the best of the Pak bunch by a fair margin.

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1 hour ago, Vilander said:

i dont think thats a fact.

 

6 minutes ago, Vijy said:

it was impressive, but he had the advantage of coming in at 5 against a very weak Steyn IMO. Peak Steyn would have destroyed this Pakistani lineup incl. Azam. With that said, Azam is clearly the best of the Pak bunch by a fair margin.

 

Being the best in the Pak batting lineup doesn't mean you'd walk into the Indian batting unit.  Not even close.  Babar wouldn't make the test squad, forget XI.  In ODIs, he essentially is a poor man's Virat.  We already have Virat to play that role, Babar's inability to step up his SR, would be ruthlessly exposed if batted lower down the order - he would have the same issues that Rahane did.  Or a Manish Pandey.  

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7 minutes ago, sandeep said:

 

 

Being the best in the Pak batting lineup doesn't mean you'd walk into the Indian batting unit.  Not even close.  Babar wouldn't make the test squad, forget XI.  In ODIs, he essentially is a poor man's Virat.  We already have Virat to play that role, Babar's inability to step up his SR, would be ruthlessly exposed if batted lower down the order - he would have the same issues that Rahane did.  Or a Manish Pandey.  

rahane n pandey issues are hugely around spin bowling as well..........i hvent seen babar azam bat much , does he also struggle against spin or pace (like rayudu) 

coz if he does his evolution wnt be as easy but if he doesnt....he ll do better then both 

 

Also batsman around him doesnt help him to play freely i feel 

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20 minutes ago, sandeep said:

 

 

Being the best in the Pak batting lineup doesn't mean you'd walk into the Indian batting unit.  Not even close.  Babar wouldn't make the test squad, forget XI.  In ODIs, he essentially is a poor man's Virat.  We already have Virat to play that role, Babar's inability to step up his SR, would be ruthlessly exposed if batted lower down the order - he would have the same issues that Rahane did.  Or a Manish Pandey.  

exactly and more.

 

Tests squad is out of the question as we all know. 

 

In ODI where it appears, there is a chance but if you look close -> no 4 has players that can be filled in just selectors are not willing to do it or don't have enough time to fill in time for WC that's all.

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Just now, Gollum said:

Quality batsman, he has all the tools to become an ATG. Thus far 330 odd runs in the tournament, avg 66+, SR 86+.....outstanding considering this is his first WC.

The target was right up his alley, well played anyways

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5 minutes ago, SK_IH said:

The target was right up his alley, well played anyways

Pitch was tricky, must win match, Pakistan's pathetic chasing record, string of consecutive losses against NZ, first WC, 40/2 start....also I rate chasing 100s highly in WCs and ICC must win matches, never easy with all the pressure. This 100 was more impressive than the one Rohit scored against RSA and better than anything Kohli has achieved till now in his 2.5 WCs. 

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On ‎5‎/‎8‎/‎2019 at 12:27 PM, gakgupta said:

There were some good pak players who are neither selfish nor tuk tuk

1) Saeed anwar

2) Imram Khan

3) Inzy

4) Misbah - My personal favourite

 

Coming to this guy, he has future but i thought the same about kohli-look-alike (Can't remember his name)

MIsbah is considered to be the most selfish player ever to play for Pakistan.

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Being the only good batsman and the mainstay of the team , he is always under pressure. Don't think any other batsman in any other team has so much responsibility and under so much pressure when comes to crease.

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He is a fine player. Good compact technique and easy on the eye. Also as a character he is not repulsive like some other Pak players. Also Haris Sohail is really finding his groove. I hope they make SF. Now the games are starting create some excitement.

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Cannot compare Babar with Kohli. 

 

Kohli is a great batsman but Babar suits our needs and we should be happy with that. If every country had Kohli you would understand these statements. Kohli is GOAT cricketer. The two sixes he hit of Starc were magnificent, Kohli can really tear apart any bowler but he does not do it because he's responsible. Kohli is in his own league. Babar in his own. We should accept that and there is no harm in saying Babar is no where near Kohli because Kohli is arguably in the top three cricketer list of all time so there is no shame in accepting that. Babar just needs to keep his head and become the best white ball batsman produced by Pakistan and then make a name in Tests.

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14 minutes ago, Mirpur express said:

Cannot compare Babar with Kohli. 

 

Kohli is a great batsman but Babar suits our needs and we should be happy with that. If every country had Kohli you would understand these statements. Kohli is GOAT cricketer. The two sixes he hit of Starc were magnificent, Kohli can really tear apart any bowler but he does not do it because he's responsible. Kohli is in his own league. Babar in his own. We should accept that and there is no harm in saying Babar is no where near Kohli because Kohli is arguably in the top three cricketer list of all time so there is no shame in accepting that. Babar just needs to keep his head and become the best white ball batsman produced by Pakistan and then make a name in Tests.

Babar and Haris look like batsmen.  Haven't seen that in greenbro uniforms in quite some time.

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He is sorta Sachin Tendulkar of 1996 WC for India . Teams will start targeting him now ..He will evolve over a period of time to get with and might end up with GOAT of white ball cricket.

 

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10 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

Very consistent. Just that he lacks the power game of other guys. Jinx Rahane could have been like him as he also doesn't have power game. Turned into a phattu player in this era.

Doesn't need power game at #3 tbh, avg 53, SR 86 is amazing. None of the fab 4 have power game, including Kohli. 

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