Rohit ... Absolute chicken

[gakgupta]

Well,

 

I have been following him from 2007....I was awestruck by his elegance and range of shots...When he is in his zone, he is probably one of the finest ODI batsmen and total treat to eyes...

 

When he plays that offside six .... he made feel like  .... "****!! ...Cricket is this simple"

 

I don't have statistics but I follow cricket enough; not to miss any major events. I haven't seen him successful in any of the major events. Big stages really makes his pussy. He doesn't have stomach to handle big occasions. 

 

To win major events we need big match players...

 

Same reason, i respect players like Yuvraj, Gautam, Dhawan, Raina etc who rose to the occasion and play important innings on important occasions...

 

Who are those players for this world cup...

My guess

1) Dhawan

and no body else....

I would like to believe following players have balls to handle big occasion

1) Hardik

2) Dhoni 

3) Bumrah

4) Shankar

 

[Vijy]

14 minutes ago, gakgupta said:

Well,

 

I have been following him from 2007....I was awestruck by his elegance and range of shots...When he is in his zone, he is probably one of the finest ODI batsmen and total treat to eyes...

 

When he plays that offside six .... he made feel like  .... "****!! ...Cricket is this simple"

 

I don't have statistics but I follow cricket enough; not to miss any major events. I haven't seen him successful in any of the major events. Big stages really makes his pussy. He doesn't have stomach to handle big occasions. 

 

To win major events we need big match players...

 

Same reason, i respect players like Yuvraj, Gautam, Dhawan, Raina etc who rose to the occasion and play important innings on important occasions...

 

Who are those players for this world cup...

My guess

1) Dhawan

and no body else....

I would like to believe following players have balls to handle big occasion

1) Hardik

2) Dhoni 

3) Bumrah

4) Shankar

 

Dhoni may, or may not have, had big match temperament but ability-wise, he has been in decline for last few yrs. Shankar does not seem mentally strong to me, even if he has improved since nidahas. hardik and bumrah are contenders IMO.

[jf1gp_1]

Ask shaker to go over deep mid wicket or long on more often than not he will give you catching practice. Used to happen with yuvraj as well. 

[Jimmy Cliff]

His 30*(16) in the first WorldT20 Final was elite. Since then he has mostly been a Toyger basher in ICC tournaments.

[Laaloo]

57 minutes ago, Jimmy Cliff said:

His 30*(16) in the first WorldT20 Final was elite. Since then he has mostly been a Toyger basher in ICC tournaments.

How about 6(10) in the same game?

[vvvslaxman]

DElhi boys Punjabi boys  are mentally stronger guys then a Mumbai wimps there

lol  @Rasgulla correct me if I am wrong Tendulkar flunked in both finals gambir t20 final wc final Sehwag wc final 2003 mohinder wc final 1983  

[vvvslaxman]

Rahane is another wimp Agarkar known wimp lost a World Cup to Zimbabwe on his own

[gakgupta]

Add pant to that list...

Boy this guy has lots of guts...

Something about Delhi boyz...they love big matches

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[vvvslaxman]

1 minute ago, gakgupta said:

Add pant to that list...

Boy this guy has lots of guts...

Something about Delhi boyz...they love big matches

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They have more spunk Dhawan is also good in ICc torurnaments Kohli helped with CT final 2013. Delhi boy as well

[vvvslaxman]

Add Manjot Kalra scored  a 100 in under 19 final Another DElhi product

[zen]

Rohit is among the worst openers for Ind in ICC events once you consider performance vs major teams. He appears to be more of a bilateral series player. Also he messes up PPs. His conversation rate to big scores is not acceptable for someone who plays at low SR. Now he is on the decline and could get owned by quality swing bowlers

 

Dhoni, since 2013, has Rohitisque stats too in ICC events. And also past his best now. Probably, can serve as a consolidator

 

Dhawan has had the best record in ICC events. However, he is on the decline too so it will be difficult for him to perform consistently against teams with strong attacks and fielders who take 1/2 chances 

 

Add Shankar, who is a non starter in chases/pressure situation and will struggle to even get into BD 11, to the mix and you start to see huge question marks 

 

On batting friendly pitches, bowlers could struggle. So the batting could be under a lot of pressure to perform. Probably not advisable to have all 3 of Rohit, Dhoni and Shankar in the 11 

Edited May 9, 2019 by zen

[Muloghonto]

4 hours ago, Vijy said:

Dhoni may, or may not have, had big match temperament but ability-wise, he has been in decline for last few yrs. Shankar does not seem mentally strong to me, even if he has improved since nidahas. hardik and bumrah are contenders IMO.

When it comes to ODIs, i have actually never seen a more cool under pressure dude than Dhoni, ever. He just doesn't get flustered under a climbing run rate and he is okay if the target is even 18 off the last over. His mentality is always 'as long as the target is 2 runs in 2 balls, it doesnt matter what it was 3-4-8 overs ago'. 

The best chaser, in terms of mentality, I've ever seen.

[Vijy]

9 minutes ago, Muloghonto said:

When it comes to ODIs, i have actually never seen a more cool under pressure dude than Dhoni, ever. He just doesn't get flustered under a climbing run rate and he is okay if the target is even 18 off the last over. His mentality is always 'as long as the target is 2 runs in 2 balls, it doesnt matter what it was 3-4-8 overs ago'. 

The best chaser, in terms of mentality, I've ever seen.

Yes, I agree about his temperament (even if some others may question it), but I was thinking more along the lines of his ability to produce the big hits at will these days. there have been some close matches in int'l cricket where he wasn't able to close them out as he would have been able to (at his peak).

[Muloghonto]

26 minutes ago, Vijy said:

Yes, I agree about his temperament (even if some others may question it), but I was thinking more along the lines of his ability to produce the big hits at will these days. there have been some close matches in int'l cricket where he wasn't able to close them out as he would have been able to (at his peak).

well that is a given. Once you are past 35, i can't see any sportsmen - maybe except golfers- being as physically competent as they were prior to turning 35. 

[vvvslaxman]

32 minutes ago, Vijy said:

Yes, I agree about his temperament (even if some others may question it), but I was thinking more along the lines of his ability to produce the big hits at will these days. there have been some close matches in int'l cricket where he wasn't able to close them out as he would have been able to (at his peak).

In world cups temperament plays a major major part. If only talent wins tournament South Africa would have reached many finals. 

All these years during India vs Pakistan contest in the world cups most of the time Pakistan was a stronger side on paper with star bowlers. But temperamentally we were better as a unit. That is why we lead 6-0. 

[ShoonyaSifar]

World Cup - 330 runs@47, 1 100 and 2 50s in 8 innings

Asia Cup - 747 runs@47, 1 100 and 5 50s in 21 innings

ICC CT - 481 runs@53, 1 100 and 4 50s in 10 innings

ICC T20 - 673 runs@40, SR of 140, 8 50s in 28 innings

 

What exactly is wrong with these numbers? He does go missing in finals, like everyone else.

 

OP, what is with such abuses? 

Edited May 9, 2019 by ShoonyaSifar

[R!TTER]

9 hours ago, vvvslaxman said:

In world cups temperament plays a major major part. If only talent wins tournament South Africa would have reached many finals. 

All these years during India vs Pakistan contest in the world cups most of the time Pakistan was a stronger side on paper with star bowlers. But temperamentally we were better as a unit. That is why we lead 6-0. 

So you're conveniently forgetting India's biggest match winner in WCs who also top scored against Pak in 3 of the 5 games? And how do we reach WC finals, do other teams abandon the game as soon as they see India 

1 hour ago, ShoonyaSifar said:

What exactly is wrong with these numbers? He does go missing in finals, like everyone else.

 

OP, what is with such abuses? 

Do you see this guy called "hitman" in there 

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Player	Span	Mat	Inns	NO	Runs	HS	Ave	BF	SR	100	50	0	4s	6s
S Dhawan	2015-2015	3	3	0	255	137	85.00	263	96.95	1	1	0	29	4
R Dravid	1999-2007	13	13	3	629	145	62.90	827	76.05	1	6	0	59	2
G Gambhir	2011-2011	5	5	0	294	97	58.80	354	83.05	0	4	0	25	0
NS Sidhu	1987-1996	7	6	0	317	93	52.83	383	82.76	0	4	0	21	9
SK Raina	2011-2015	6	5	2	157	74	52.33	139	112.94	0	1	0	12	4
SR Tendulkar	1992-2011	28	27	1	1321	137	50.80	1537	85.94	3	9	2	136	17
M Azharuddin	1987-1999	21	20	4	712	93	44.50	887	80.27	0	7	2	58	5
SM Gavaskar	1975-1987	11	11	2	370	103*	41.11	650	56.92	1	2	0	38	4
AM Rahane	2015-2015	3	3	0	123	79	41.00	129	95.34	0	1	1	9	3
SC Ganguly	1999-2007	12	12	0	467	183	38.91	600	77.83	1	1	1	42	11
MS Dhoni	2007-2015	9	9	2	267	91*	38.14	265	100.75	0	2	1	21	6
A Jadeja	1992-1999	14	12	2	348	100*	34.80	469	74.20	1	1	1	27	6
Yashpal Sharma	1983-1983	3	3	0	104	61	34.66	166	62.65	0	1	0	4	2
Yuvraj Singh	2003-2011	12	11	3	275	58	34.37	300	91.66	0	3	2	30	2
V Sehwag	2003-2011	12	12	0	406	82	33.83	397	102.26	0	3	1	57	8
N Kapil Dev	1979-1992	16	15	3	369	72*	30.75	313	117.89	0	1	0	32	4
RR Singh	1999-1999	5	5	1	122	75	30.50	148	82.43	0	1	1	6	5
SV Manjrekar	1992-1996	8	8	0	232	62	29.00	349	66.47	0	1	1	13	2
V Kohli	2011-2015	8	8	0	231	107	28.87	310	74.51	1	0	0	17	0
K Srikkanth	1983-1992	14	14	1	338	75	26.00	490	68.97	0	2	3	43	3
M Kaif	2003-2003	6	6	1	128	68*	25.60	238	53.78	0	1	1	14	0
AD Gaekwad	1975-1979	4	4	0	102	37	25.50	180	56.66	0	0	0	8	0
DB Vengsarkar	1979-1987	7	6	0	134	63	22.33	186	72.04	0	1	1	9	2
RJ Shastri	1983-1992	8	7	0	156	57	22.28	291	53.60	0	1	0	8	1

[Vilander]

Hardik does not give a ****. Dhoni does not either. Other than that Dhawan. Rest are different levels of nervousness. Kohli Bumrah are who they are supreme ability.

[Cricketics]

How many World Cup has Rohit played that people start to rate him not meant for ICC tournaments. Just one World Cup, that is 2015 and he did score in Quarter Final, albeit against Bangla.

 

Hopefully he will click this year. Every game is important in World Cup, and not just the knock out game. So if he scores in the league stage where India has to play every opponent once, then its fine. 

[vvvslaxman]

Just now, Cricketics said:

How many World Cup has Rohit played that people start to rate him not meant for ICC tournaments. Just one World Cup, that is 2015 and he did score in Quarter Final, albeit against Bangla.

 

Hopefully he will click this year. Every game is important in World Cup, and not just the knock out game. So if he scores in the league stage where India has to play every opponent once, then its fine. 

BD game can always be a banana skin game  With our team we should thump them every time. But often we run into a situation where we had to snatch the win from defeat.