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3 minutes ago, someone said:

There would be huge reaction, uproar if he had said Rajputs, Dalits, Maratha, Yadavs instead or other religions. 

 

And this is the battle today, Hindu and its identity is easy to target..

things are changing fastly...

now people started to know their hypocrisy.

 

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2 hours ago, sergio04 said:

things are changing fastly...

now people started to know their hypocrisy.

 

Not really, as in last 5 years, the army, courts, pm position have all been severely abused. It was unheard of 5 years ago, so the intolerance and hatred is more open.

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C MC jihadi khud ki behen betiyo ko ijjat de nahi sakte chale hai Hinduism par sawal uthane. secularism or victimhood ka randi rona koi inse seekhe. 

Edited by DHONI_FANN

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On 5/13/2019 at 1:46 PM, Laaloo said:

But I was told by the sickular pandits that terrorism had no religion. 

On the contrary, the Hindutva supporters do blame from morning till evening that Islam is a religion of terrorism. 

 

I personally believe that more or less, but all the Religions have some kind of terrorism and evil teachings in them.

 

And I also believe that more or less, all the extremist religious people are involved in terrorism of one kind or another. 

 

Therefore, I blame both the Religions and their Blind followers to be terrorists. 

 

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By the way, Kamal Hassan didn't say that "Hindu Religion" is terrorist. But he said a "Follower" of Hindu Religion is Extremist. 

He said this in response to claim that Muslims are terrorists. 

He is clear in his statement that follower of any religion could be an extremist. 

Thus he is totally correct in his statement. 

 

Edited by Alam_dar

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1 hour ago, Alam_dar said:

On the contrary, the Hindutva supporters do blame from morning till evening that Islam is a religion of terrorism. 

 

I personally believe that more or less, but all the Religions have some kind of terrorism and evil teachings in them.

 

And I also believe that more or less, all the extremist religious people are involved in terrorism of one kind or another. 

 

Therefore, I blame both the Religions and their Blind followers to be terrorists. 

 

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By the way, Kamal Hassan didn't say that "Hindu Religion" is terrorist. But he said a "Follower" of Hindu Religion is Extremist. 

He said this in response to claim that Muslims are terrorists. 

He is clear in his statement that follower of any religion could be an extremist. 

Thus he is totally correct in his statement. 

 

Chal bhaag Bose dk

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50 minutes ago, Gollum said:

Sadly many in India can't figure out the difference.

According to BBC Urdu, Kamal didn't use the word Terrorist or Assassin, but he used the word whose exact translation is "Extremist". 

 

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I personally think that Killer is one who kills due to "Personal" reasons. 

Assassin could be one who kills for Money. 

 

While Terrorists is one who has some type of Ideological hatred (regional or religious) behind the killing. But this needs to have some network, while Godse did it in his individual capacity. 

 

While killing by Godse had ideological motive, thus Kamal Hasan seems to be right when he used the word "Extremist" for him. 

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20 minutes ago, Alam_dar said:

According to BBC Urdu, Kamal didn't use the word Terrorist or Assassin, but he used the word whose exact translation is "Extremist". 

 

Godse was an extremist no doubt...my main grouse was calling him India's 1st terrorist when parallelly we had for instance a Qasim Razvi in Hyderabad State forming the Razakar militia. Anyway that's BBC Urdu, I don't want to comment on their credentials. 

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Godse was an extremist no doubt...my main grouse was calling him India's 1st terrorist when parallelly we had for instance a Qasim Razvi in Hyderabad State forming the Razakar militia. Anyway that's BBC Urdu, I don't want to comment on their credentials. 
Qasim Razvi was a thorough gentleman. His love and compassion for Hyderabadi Hindus was second to none. An angel.

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7 minutes ago, nikred said:

Qasim Razvi was a thorough gentleman. His love and compassion for Hyderabadi Hindus was second to none. An angel. emoji849.png

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Every time libtards and pidi media fawn before Owaisi a part of me dies. Owaisi is a keen historian, always questioning the past of Jan Sangh, RSS, Hindu Mahasabha etc..someone ask him about the origins of his party. 

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1 hour ago, Gollum said:

@velu what is 'terrorist' in Tamil, and 'extremist'?

 

Theevravaadi? Baingiravaadi? Any difference?

 

in practical sense both are used to refer the terrorists ..

 

theevira mean - serious or extreme

bayangara mean - terrific 

 

only a grammar nazi can argue that both have different meaning .. 

 

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https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/tamil-nadu/kamal-haasan-on-nathuram-godse-remark-didnt-use-the-term-terrorist/article27138807.ece

 

Nathuram Godse remark: Didn’t use the term ‘terrorist’, says Kamal Haasan

 
 
 
 

Makkal Needhi Maiyam (MNM) founder Kamal Haasan speaks at a rally for Tirupparankundram assembly by election at Thoppur in Madurai on May 15, 2019.

Makkal Needhi Maiyam (MNM) founder Kamal Haasan speaks at a rally for Tirupparankundram assembly by election at Thoppur in Madurai on May 15, 2019.   | Photo Credit: R. Ashok

 

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“Understand the meaning for the word extremist. I could have used the word terrorist or murderer (against Godse)... ours is active politics, there won’t be any violence,” he said while resorting to wordplay in Tamil to drive home his point.

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“I am not saying this because this is Muslim-dominated area, but I am saying this before a statue of Gandhi. Free India’s first extremist was a Hindu, his name is Nathuram Godse. There it (extremism, apparently) starts,” he had said in bypoll-bound Aravakurichi.

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In 2003, the BJP under Vajpayee crossed an important milestone when it succeeded in getting a portrait of Damodar Savarkar installed in the Parliament buildings.

 

Savarkar whom the BJP & RSS adoringly call “Veer Savarkar” was one of the 9 men indicted for the killing of Gandhiji. Savarkar, who pioneered Hindutva was one of the architects of this needless killing. He he was aided and abetted by both the RSS & the Hindu Mahasabha. Savarkar escaped the gallows on a technicality.

 

 

But the project now comes full circle with the BJP attempts to recast Godse as the good guy who defended Hindus. Indeed, a BJP spokesperson very respectfully calls him “Godse ji” in the clip at: bit.ly/2JBtYsG. I wouldn’t be surprised if the BJP now allows the Hindu Mahasabha to continue with its Godse temple project. 

 

I guess the next milestone would be a portrait of Godse in the Parliament.

 

 

As a European newspaper described the BJP :

 

 

Gandhi on its lips, Godse in its heart

 

 

Is this what India wants? 

 

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To be honest, I personally also belief that it is true: Gandhi on BJP's lips, Godse in its heart

 

There is a whole debate of Kanhiya Kumar, when he asked the BJP representative woman why she was using the word "Godse Ji"?  Why to attach "Ji" as sign of respect for Godse? And she was unable to reply. 

 

We could also find many BJP supporters who are actually openly showing their thanks to Godse for saving them from Gandhi by killing him. 

 

 

 

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Lastly, what is exactly the definition of Terrorism? 

 

And if really Hindus could never be Terrorists? 

 

 
terrorism
/ˈtɛrərɪzəm/
noun
 
  1. the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.
    "the fight against terrorism"

 

Why this definition could not be applied to Saffron Brigade members who are lynching in name of respect of cow? 

 

And perhaps slavery and the Caste system should also come under terrorism where violence was used against one group of people. 

 

 

 

 

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37 minutes ago, Alam_dar said:

A comment, which needs an answer:
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In 2003, the BJP under Vajpayee crossed an important milestone when it succeeded in getting a portrait of Damodar Savarkar installed in the Parliament buildings.

 

Savarkar whom the BJP & RSS adoringly call “Veer Savarkar” was one of the 9 men indicted for the killing of Gandhiji. Savarkar, who pioneered Hindutva was one of the architects of this needless killing. He he was aided and abetted by both the RSS & the Hindu Mahasabha. Savarkar escaped the gallows on a technicality.

 

 

But the project now comes full circle with the BJP attempts to recast Godse as the good guy who defended Hindus. Indeed, a BJP spokesperson very respectfully calls him “Godse ji” in the clip at: bit.ly/2JBtYsG. I wouldn’t be surprised if the BJP now allows the Hindu Mahasabha to continue with its Godse temple project. 

 

I guess the next milestone would be a portrait of Godse in the Parliament.

 

 

As a European newspaper described the BJP :

 

 

Gandhi on its lips, Godse in its heart

 

 

Is this what India wants? 

 

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To be honest, I personally also belief that it is true: Gandhi on BJP's lips, Godse in its heart

 

There is a whole debate of Kanhiya Kumar, when he asked the BJP representative woman why she was using the word "Godse Ji"?  Why to attach "Ji" as sign of respect for Godse? And she was unable to reply. 

 

We could also find many BJP supporters who are actually openly showing their thanks to Godse for saving them from Gandhi by killing him. 

 

 

 

Abey bsdk, tu apne kaam se kaam rakh Pakistani bosd

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26 minutes ago, DHONI_FANN said:

Abey bsdk, tu apne kaam se kaam rakh Pakistani bosd

Hahaha 

Sorry dear friend if I offended you. 

I was not intended to do it, but Tapanay may maza aya :aha:

You please also just chill and enjoy it too, nothing serious here. 

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3 hours ago, Alam_dar said:

A comment, which needs an answer:
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In 2003, the BJP under Vajpayee crossed an important milestone when it succeeded in getting a portrait of Damodar Savarkar installed in the Parliament buildings.

 

Savarkar whom the BJP & RSS adoringly call “Veer Savarkar” was one of the 9 men indicted for the killing of Gandhiji. Savarkar, who pioneered Hindutva was one of the architects of this needless killing. He he was aided and abetted by both the RSS & the Hindu Mahasabha. Savarkar escaped the gallows on a technicality.

 

Gandhi deserved to be killed. 

And I say this, despite acknowledging that he is the biggest freedom fighter of India ( coming from bose-land, thats a concession most Bongs wont make in the first place, but objective facts are objective facts). 

 

The reason is simple: British forgot to divide the treasury and give Pakistan its share of the treasury, which was in Delhi. Gandhi went on a hunger strike to do this, while Pakistan was at war with the sovereign nation of Kashmir. Which then joined India and auto-triggered war with India. 

Gandhi went on hunger strike to give money to the enemy that is at war with us. This is decisive treason. It doesn't matter if Pakistan 'deserved' the money or not - your nation's legal portfolios get suspended in the host nation, if your nation and host nation go to war. When Iraq and USA went to war, USA froze Iraqi assets in USA - which were legal before being frozen. The move of the US is also legal, officially sanctioned by the UN code of war. 

Ergo, India was not required to release the money to Pakistan, most definitely not during the state of war. Ergo, what Gandhi did was high treason. Laws of India allow execution for high treason. Godse's killing was not needless, it was vigilantism. Its the equivalent of killing a serial killer before the police gets a hold of him.

 

 

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instrument of accession was signed on Oct 26th, 1947.

This triggered Indo-Pak war of 1947, on Oct 26th.

 

Gandhi's fast for hindu muslim unity and releasing of 55 crores to Pakistan occured between Jan 13-18, 1948. 

This officially makes Gandhi advocate of treason. 

Edited by Muloghonto

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To all those not illuminated.. read this interview and decide who is a terrorist and who is rational...

 

https://www.rediff.com/news/1998/jan/29godse.htm

 

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Two hundred and fifty thousand Hindus were killed in Noakhali in October 1946. Hindu women were forced to remove their sindhoor and do Muslim rituals. And Gandhi said, 'Hindus must bow their heads if Muslims want to kill them. We should follow the principle of ahimsa(non-violence).' How can any sensible person tolerate this? Our action was not for a handful of people -- it was for all the refugees who came from Pakistan.

 

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