Nikola Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 So who will be most important player for india in the world cup? For me it has be in this Ranking: Bumrah Kuldeep Kohli Pandya Dhawan Dhoni Shami and so on. If our bowlers perform well then chances are really really high. Link to comment
zen Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 I am expecting “steady” performances from Bumrah and Kohli. Kuldeep, Shami and Dhawan would have good games here and there. Whatever Dhoni does is a bonus (if not messing up the RR). Therefore, how Pandya performs could be the key (esp. since he is the only power hitter and will not get support from likes of Pant, who are not in the squad) Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 Bowlers have to win matches. Still Kohli's sheer presence will make any team sweat. Their decisions will be based on Kohli. He has this aura of being the chase master with 3 centuries in 3 successful 350 plus chases. May not do under pressure. But he is still the GOAT in chasing. It is not how we look at him as a player matters. it is how the opposition look at him. It will be different. They will fear him. He is the binding force for us. Hope he clicks big and also this is one legacy he has to fix. SrinjayDutta and manu4411 2 Link to comment
Nikola Posted May 13, 2019 Author Share Posted May 13, 2019 (edited) To me to top 4 (Bumrah, Kuldeep, Kohli & Pandya) are pretty much all on same rank. I am expecting kohli to score 600+ runs. Bumrah & Kuldeep to pick 25+ wickets. Pandya to score 300 runs & 12 - 15 wickets. Dhawan to score 550+ runs Shami to pick 22 - 25+ wickets (can end up being leading wicket taker too) I am not sure how dhoni, rohit will play so can't predict on them but expecting both both to have decent wc. Edited May 13, 2019 by Nikola Link to comment
maniac Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 Has to be Bumrah. On flat tracks chasing big scores we are not dependent only on Kohli, Rohit-Dhawan are equally lethal. It is usually a combo of 2-3 gets the job done. On flat tracks setting up a par score also comes down to top 3. However we will fall short 20-30 runs due to long tail and lack of firepower in the death. This is where Bumrah comes in to the picture as well. On tricky surfaces batting first or chasing- Kohli is the man but then again we have to pick wickets. So Bumrah followed by Kohli. manu4411 1 Link to comment
zen Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 (edited) 52 minutes ago, Nikola said: Bumrah & Kuldeep to pick 25+ wickets. Pandya to score 300 runs & 12 - 15 wickets. Dhawan to score 550+ runs Shami to pick 22 - 25+ wickets (can end up being leading wicket taker too) Is that 25 wkts each for Bumrah and Kuldeep?! If so, it is like 50 wkts b/w them + 34 wkts of Shami + Pandya. So basically, we have to be bowling teams out in the league stage! .... On good batting pitches, avg wkt lost per game by major teams could be 6-8, say 7. 6 major teams by 7 = 42 wkts in total + 27 wkts (avg 9) of other teams, so total could be like 70 wkts in group games Edited May 14, 2019 by zen Link to comment
maniac Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 1 minute ago, zen said: Is that 25 wkts each for Bumrah and Kuldeep?! If so, it is like 50 wkts b/w them + 34 wkts of Shami + Pandya. So basically, we have to be bowling teams out in the league stage! .... On good batting pitches, avg wkt lost per game by major teams could be 6-8, say 7. 6 major teams by 7 = 42 wkts in total + 27 wkts (avg 9) of other teams, so total could be like 70 wkts in group games We bowled out every team in 2015 as well till the semis. Our current batting line up will get or chase a par score at best. Subpar total goes without saying Bowling has to step up but defending or restricting teams to par score with a weak middleorder + tail, bowling has to save us. We need to play Bumrah+Shami+ Bhuvi here. Going with Pandya as the specialist 3rd seamer will be a disaster even if you will your side with 3d players like Jadeja,Shankar and Jadhav. Link to comment
zen Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, maniac said: We bowled out every team in 2015 as well till the semis. Our current batting line up will get or chase a par score at best. Subpar total goes without saying Bowling has to step up but defending or restricting teams to par score with a weak middleorder + tail, bowling has to save us. That was not round robin though. Here all major teams (like the ones we play in semis) play vs. each other. And also if Ind gets a low score, other team can win it w/o losing too many wkts If Ind can bowl out, it is great but will be difficult w/ so many sides shaping up well and batting on such surfaces Link to comment
Gollum Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 (edited) Dhoni, because 1 rotten egg can spoil the entire batch Edited May 14, 2019 by Gollum Stan AF and velu 1 1 Link to comment
Gollum Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 I think it has to be Kuldeep. We should make the semis comfortably, but what beyond that? In KO stage we don't have the team to overpower red hot Eng/Aus, hence an X factor like Kuldeep will become important...99 saw Warne magic, 20 years later same venue. 2nd one will be Pandya because of the unique balance he provides, remove him and our team combo will be a joke. 3. Bumrah 4. Kohli 5/6. Openers even KLR if he is assigned that role 7. Shami 8. BK 9. Jadhav 10. Chahal 11. Dhoni Link to comment
bowl_out Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 Bumrah Kohli Pandya In that order Link to comment
Clarke Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 Kohli without question. Bumrah can only bowl 10 overs, Kohli can bat all 50 in theory. I would need to look up his record in Eng but on paper he's our top gun. Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 27 minutes ago, Clarke said: Kohli without question. Bumrah can only bowl 10 overs, Kohli can bat all 50 in theory. I would need to look up his record in Eng but on paper he's our top gun. yup. You can see off Bumrah completely and target others. Set batsman like Butler can target even Bumrah. Link to comment
Nikola Posted May 14, 2019 Author Share Posted May 14, 2019 2 hours ago, Clarke said: Kohli without question. Bumrah can only bowl 10 overs, Kohli can bat all 50 in theory. I would need to look up his record in Eng but on paper he's our top gun. you can see other way too that kohli even if gets out on first ball duck in big match still bumrah will bowl all his 10 overs in same match. Link to comment
Nikola Posted May 14, 2019 Author Share Posted May 14, 2019 7 hours ago, zen said: Is that 25 wkts each for Bumrah and Kuldeep?! If so, it is like 50 wkts b/w them + 34 wkts of Shami + Pandya. So basically, we have to be bowling teams out in the league stage! .... On good batting pitches, avg wkt lost per game by major teams could be 6-8, say 7. 6 major teams by 7 = 42 wkts in total + 27 wkts (avg 9) of other teams, so total could be like 70 wkts in group games I mean either of kuldeep and bumrah will pick up 25 wickets and shami more likely around 20 (considering he will be rested in few matches) pandya will play almost all matches so should get 14 - 15 wickets. If we are playing 9 league matches & i considered india to play till final so add 3 more matches which means 120 total wickets. Yeah we are playing on flat tracks but not all teams will be having strong batting attacks like england does. Link to comment
Sandeep99 Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 (edited) I didn't even look at the options. If India has to progress anywhere... we need Bum Bum to fire... MVP of Indian team.. the best bowler ever we produced. Just lucky to have him.. champion Edited May 14, 2019 by Sandeep99 Stan AF 1 Link to comment
Sandeep99 Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 But of course, if India has to win, Ko Pa Bu should have the best tournament possible with contributions from Ro Sh Dh Kul Cha Bhu. Link to comment
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