Jump to content
sergio04

Hindus are forced to leave village in West Bengal

Recommended Posts

2019, "When they'll be in majority, they'll throw you out of your homes." Hindus in Delhi: Haha We live here in harmony and peace, respect each other's Religions and nothing of this sort will ever happen..... And the cycle will go on n on. Good luck to your Ganga Jamuni tehzeeb

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Never trust them.

 

Another myth that Hindus and Sikhs propagate is that Bangladeshis are not as bad as Pakistanis.

 

They are just as bad, if not worse.

 

Whilst the number of minorities post partition has remained relatively stable in Pakistan, the number of Hindus has decreased drastically in Bangladesh.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
13 minutes ago, Austin 3:!6 said:

@Ankit_sharma03 is missing on this and Kamal Hassan thread like a plaque :bow:

i dnt comment on 100s of post here........kuch zabardasti hai

I dnt feel like

now ull tell me what to comment n what to feel......chaudhary mat ban 

Kal ko tu mujeh ye batayega ki mujhe khaana kya aur pehn na kya hai 

 

now ull suppose i wud be feeling happy that hindus are forced to leave.....to kar na suppose....aur bhi kar.....after all im inhuman . Tum aur kar kya sakte khudh ki soch nhin chale dusre ko batane......this why their needs to be change in govt....coz sabko adaat pad gayi hai certificate bantne ki ......when i didnt comment on many post on cricket forum....u never tagged n asked me......

 

Meri marzi men jaha marzi marzi comment kru.....dnt tell me what to post where....

 

Edited by Ankit_sharma03

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 minute ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

i dnt comment on 100s of post here........kuch zabardasti hai

I dnt feel 

now ull tell me what to comment n what to feel......chaudhary mat ban 

Kal ko tu mujeh ye batayega ki mujhe khaana kya aur pehn na kya hai 

 

now ull suppose i wud be feeling happy that hindus are forced to leave.....to kar na suppose....aur bhi kar.....after all im inhuman . 

 

Meri marzi men jaha marzi marzi comment kru.....dnt tell me what to post where....

 

 

14 minutes ago, Austin 3:!6 said:

@Ankit_sharma03 is missing on this and Kamal Hassan thread like a plaque :bow:

bechaare ki kyon le rahe ho....:hysterical:

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
11 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

i dnt comment on 100s of post here........kuch zabardasti hai

I dnt feel like

now ull tell me what to comment n what to feel......chaudhary mat ban 

Kal ko tu mujeh ye batayega ki mujhe khaana kya aur pehn na kya hai 

 

now ull suppose i wud be feeling happy that hindus are forced to leave.....to kar na suppose....aur bhi kar.....after all im inhuman . Tum aur kar kya sakte khudh ki soch nhin chale dusre ko batane......this why their needs to be change in govt....coz sabko adaat pad gayi hai certificate bantne ki ......when i didnt comment on many post on cricket forum....u never tagged n asked me......

 

Meri marzi men jaha marzi marzi comment kru.....dnt tell me what to post where.... 

 

Bro...you are free to comment where ever you want. I am just highlighting the hypocrisy. You are going all bonkers on Modi's thread regarding clouds and emails but keeping a pedestrian silence and 10 feet distance on threads where hindus are targeted. I thought secularism is all about equality, no? Tell us how differently we should perceive things?

 

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Just now, Austin 3:!6 said:

Bro...you are free to comment where ever you want. I am just highlighting the hypocrisy. You are going all bonkers on Modi's thread regarding clouds and emails but keeping a pedestrian silence and 10 feet distance on threads where hindus are targeted. I thought secularism is all about equality, no? Tell us how differently we should perceive things?

 

 

When m free to my comment its my choice

Hypocricy is something else, 1st be sure of what i think then call me that........are u sure what i think ????

 

Modi is not a religion . Is he ?? so how are u comparing modi n hindu??? Calll me one when i make fun of him n justify rahul stupidity coz they are in competition

 

Samjha hypcoricy ka matalab ???

Equality - so u think i feel happy of them thrown out of their homes....If ur sure then also call me inhuman  not hypocrite 

 

I repeat i dnt comment on 100s thread .......n i wnt in future but that doesnt give u liberity to decide to make calls for me ...if u wanna then stop saying ur free coz thats hypocrisy - talking of freedom...at the same time forcing me 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, sergio04 said:

haa haaa :hysterical::hysterical:

but ur masters are out on bail

 

Haha.. Uske pass Modi ke upar special thread kholne ka time hai lekin aise incidents to criticise karne ka time nahi hai. Pakka aaptard hai ye Ankit. Ignore him. He is clearly frustrated and is suffering from Bhakt Phobia 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 minute ago, DHONI_FANN said:

Haha.. Uske pass Modi ke upar special thread kholne ka time hai lekin aise incidents to criticise karne ka time nahi hai. Pakka aaptard hai ye Ankit. Ignore him. He is clearly frustrated and is suffering from Bhakt Phobia 

bhaai maja aata hai mujhe :aha:

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
5 hours ago, Ranvir said:

Never trust them.

 

Another myth that Hindus and Sikhs propagate is that Bangladeshis are not as bad as Pakistanis.

 

They are just as bad, if not worse.

 

Whilst the number of minorities post partition has remained relatively stable in Pakistan, the number of Hindus has decreased drastically in Bangladesh.

Drastically reduced ? In 1947, Bangladesh had 12% Hindu population, now its 9%. In 1947, West Pakistan had 8% non-muslim population, now its 1%. 
The fact that Bengalis are less communal than Punjabis is also borne out in the partition death toll - Bengal, despite being a more populous province than Punjab, saw less people movement and far less deaths due to it. So how are they worse, exactly ??

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
3 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

When m free to my comment its my choice

Hypocricy is something else, 1st be sure of what i think then call me that........are u sure what i think ????

You are right, its not hypocrisy. Its bias. When you comment 100x on one side of the spectrum and 0x on the other, it isn't hypocrisy, its bias. 

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
9 minutes ago, Muloghonto said:

Drastically reduced ? In 1947, Bangladesh had 12% Hindu population, now its 9%. In 1947, West Pakistan had 8% non-muslim population, now its 1%. 
The fact that Bengalis are less communal than Punjabis is also borne out in the partition death toll - Bengal, despite being a more populous province than Punjab, saw less people movement and far less deaths due to it. So how are they worse, exactly ??

 

IMG_20190515_012120.jpg

 

According to various sources,  the Hindu population in Bangaldesh after the partition was around the 25% mark and was later reduced to half of the earlier percentage due to mass migration to India during the 1971 War period.  

 

 

Edited by rageaddict

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
20 minutes ago, Muloghonto said:

You are right, its not hypocrisy. Its bias. When you comment 100x on one side of the spectrum and 0x on the other, it isn't hypocrisy, its bias. 

 

since u hve decided ull say things from my side....go ahead say anything 

do let me knw what to wear tomm....im a lil confused 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
6 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

since u hve decided ull say things from my side....go ahead say anything 

do let me knw what to wear tomm....im a lil confused 

I am not saying anything from your side. I am simply pointing out that if you will lambast hindus for the time they victimize muslims (which you have) but not utter a word when muslims do the same, it makes you biassed. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Just now, Muloghonto said:

I am not saying anything from your side. I am simply pointing out that if you will lambast hindus for the time they victimize muslims (which you have) but not utter a word when muslims do the same, it makes you biassed. 

kindly ref the post ur talking about 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
50 minutes ago, Muloghonto said:

Drastically reduced ? In 1947, Bangladesh had 12% Hindu population, now its 9%. In 1947, West Pakistan had 8% non-muslim population, now its 1%. 
The fact that Bengalis are less communal than Punjabis is also borne out in the partition death toll - Bengal, despite being a more populous province than Punjab, saw less people movement and far less deaths due to it. So how are they worse, exactly ??

Mulo the whole killing started in Bengal. Bengal was the epicenter of all communal violence. Direct action day killed over 2000 people in Bengal. It was called Great Calcutta killings. I remember seeing the pics of vultures eating the dead. That was gruesome. This event paved the way for partition. So it correct to say partition was born out of happenings in bengal. 

Edited by gattaca

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
23 minutes ago, gattaca said:

Mulo the whole killing started in Bengal. Bengal was the epicenter of all communal violence. Direct action day killed over 2000 people in Bengal. It was called Great Calcutta killings. I remember seeing the pics of vultures eating the dead. That was gruesome. This event paved the way for partition. So it correct to say partition was born out of happenings in bengal. 

Yes, because Bengal was the epicenter of the independence movement in the first place. The total number of revolutionary Bengalis is almost equal to the total number of revolutionaries in rest of India put together. This isn't an empty claim, but borne out by sedition imprisonments in Kalapani itself - the list of Bengali dissidents is overwhelming. 

Its also the bengali muslims why Pakistan exists in the first place - they were the main driving force for Pakistan, not the Punjabi muslims. The Muslim League memberships also bear out this fact. 

Having said that, it is also objective fact that once partition was set, the violence in the western front was orders of magnitude greater than in the eastern front. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
7 hours ago, Ranvir said:

Never trust them.

 

Another myth that Hindus and Sikhs propagate is that Bangladeshis are not as bad as Pakistanis.

 

They are just as bad, if not worse.

 

Whilst the number of minorities post partition has remained relatively stable in Pakistan, the number of Hindus has decreased drastically in Bangladesh.

Pakistan would not exist if not for the activism of the Muslim Bengalis.  

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
17 hours ago, speed_thrills said:

I was born and attained adulthood in a WB subdivision with 75% peaceful population. Have first experience of their double speak and hypocrisy.

During my teenage years (mid 90s) I used to have a close friend from peaceful community. Even by that time any Hindu Muslim thought never crossed my mind.

 

This friend of mine used to even come my home at times. We used to watch TV,  movies together and he used to freely talk to my sisters as well. I never felt any discomfort and we were all like group of friends.

 

One fine day there was something we had to pick  up from his home. I offered to accompany him to pick up the stuff. He flatly refused saying he has sisters at home and  his dad will get mad if he brings over any of his friends and more so guy from other 'mazhab'. That's my brush with Islamic hypocrisy.

 

After this I started observing his behavior closely. When ever we used to have boys talk about Hindu girls, he would have all ears and opinions and similar talk for Muslim girls would make him uncomfortable and he would try to change the topic. Since then I observed same behavior in all Muslim boys. Slowly I cut them off from my life altogether. 

 

Bottom line it's difficult to coexist beyond a point.

Edited by speed_thrills

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
9 hours ago, Muloghonto said:

Drastically reduced ? In 1947, Bangladesh had 12% Hindu population, now its 9%. In 1947, West Pakistan had 8% non-muslim population, now its 1%. 

 

Actually mulo, I think you got the numbers wrong. Post 47 partition Hindus were roughly a quarter of the population in East Pak and now they are <10%. 1971 took a heavy toll but even after accounting for that, the population is declining pretty alarmingly. Post 71, the years under military rule and BNP reign of terror were brutal for all minorities.

 

From a Dhaka University prof/researcher/author:

‘No Hindus will be left after 30 years’

 

Quote

The fact that Bengalis are less communal than Punjabis is also borne out in the partition death toll - Bengal, despite being a more populous province than Punjab, saw less people movement and far less deaths due to it. So how are they worse, exactly ??

I will add some food for thought. While partition era violence focuses a lot on Punjab, there was a different dynamic at play in the eastern border.

 

1. Punjab saw almost complete population transfer in a very short time. In contrast, the Bengal border was far more porous and migration continued till many years post 47, it can be argued that it is still an unfinished business. You are aware of the enclaves in Bangladesh right, only in 2015 Modi and Hasina came to an agreement, our constitution was amended to exchange the enclave territories. Earlier we had these kind of arrangements, many more like the one below.

Image result for india bangladesh enclavesNow Punjab side didn't have this level of craziness. In eastern front it wasn't uncommon to have a family living in Bangladesh side but work/school being inside mainland India. Just to highlight how much more easier migration has been here, unlike Punjab which saw unimaginable level of violence for a couple of months and then borders sealed permanently. Hence violence in East Bengal was less but spread over many years. 

 

2.  Violence in Punjab was highly organized and carried out with surgical precision. Because of British recruitment policies majority of our military was in NW India, both sides of the border. Some 35% of British Indian army went to Pak, probably explains why military always had a big role to play in their politics, the staggering numbers in a new country having population <1/6th of India...I mean military domination was a logical outcome there. In Bengal the minority political class both sides of the border discouraged migration, sold utopian dreams about living in harmony with the other community. This is especially true when you consider how many Bengali Hindus esp low castes joined the Muslim League, for instance Jogendra Nath Mandal who foolishly believed Jinnah's promises. In the succeeding years they were proved wrong and either perished or fled to India having lost everything. So not much of an army in Bengal and politicians too decided to discourage migration...OTOH in Punjab the military personnel actively participated in the violence and hence the swift exchange of population. 

 

3. Presence of a third player, the Sikhs further complicated the process. Another community over-represented in the military and an additional jigsaw piece in the puzzle. Also many princely states in NW/W side who encouraged violence to safeguard their interests.

 

4. Rehab by Nehru and friends was near absent in Bengal. The refugees that came had to self rehabilitate, they weren't provided Muslim evacuee properties. So another dampener for prospective migrants, not nearly as much incentive to make the tough journey and start from scratch. 

 

I won't comment on your opinion about difference in communalism between the Bongs and Punjabis. But there are multiple factors we need to consider while analyzing the difference in partition death toll. 

Edited by Gollum

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
16 minutes ago, speed_thrills said:

This friend of mine used to even come my home at times. We used to watch TV,  movies together and he used to freely talk to my sisters as well. I never felt any discomfort and we were all like group of friends.

 

One fine day there was something we had to pick  up from his home. I offered to accompany him to pick up the stuff. He flatly refused saying he has sisters at home and  his dad will get mad if he brings over any of his friends and more so guy from other 'mazhab'. That's my brush with Islamic hypocrisy.

LOL I had the same experience.

Edited by Gollum

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
14 hours ago, Ranvir said:

Never trust them.

 

Another myth that Hindus and Sikhs propagate is that Bangladeshis are not as bad as Pakistanis.

 

They are just as bad, if not worse.

 

Whilst the number of minorities post partition has remained relatively stable in Pakistan, the number of Hindus has decreased drastically in Bangladesh.

I think Bangladeshis are better than Pakistanis, our Bengali Muslims too far better. Seen them participate in Vishwakarma/Durga/Kali Puja, exchange greetings, share food, intermarry sans conversion etc...try that in Pakistan and you're a dead person. Some Bangladeshi Muslims know how to co-exist, that's an alien concept in Pak...read about the Bangladesh atheist movement, secular bloggers, Shahbag protests etc. Bengali Muslim society is changing for the worse in this respect but there will always be a minority sane population there. Secularism is one of the main pillars of their constitution and their SC backed it. In Pakistan an attempt to insert 'secular' anywhere in their constitution will result in civil war, guarantee. 

 

Bihari Muslims (Urdu speakers) in both Bengals however, different matter....they are like Pakistanis. They even collaborated with Pak army in 71 to kill their Bengali co-religionist neighbors, almost all Bengalis are very suspicious of this minority community...they are treated badly in Bangladesh even today, probably worse than Hindus for what they did in 71. 

Edited by Gollum

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
5 hours ago, maniac said:

Hindus have probably  suffered more under Mamta   Banarjee than some of the Mughals and their preceding Islamic rulers/bandits

And Sikhs in Punjab have suffered big time under Badal & his greedy family. I'm not against BJP....I'm thankful to the party under whose Govt at least the Kangressi anti-Sikh riot organizer Scumbag Sajjan Kuman was thrown in Jail. I hope Modi wins again...cheers!!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
9 hours ago, Muloghonto said:

You are right, its not hypocrisy. Its bias. When you comment 100x on one side of the spectrum and 0x on the other, it isn't hypocrisy, its bias. 

 

This is how the effect of Leftists-Communist work that even a staunchest atheist like @Muloghonto starts to expose their hypocrisy.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
8 hours ago, gattaca said:

Mulo the whole killing started in Bengal. Bengal was the epicenter of all communal violence. Direct action day killed over 2000 people in Bengal. It was called Great Calcutta killings. I remember seeing the pics of vultures eating the dead. That was gruesome. This event paved the way for partition. So it correct to say partition was born out of happenings in bengal. 

Muslim League was founded by the Dacca Nawab Khwaja Salimullah in Dacca. Majority of their cadre were Bengali Muslims, Direct Action Day and Noakhali both took place in Bengal province. Good luck telling a Pakistani all this. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
11 minutes ago, Under_Score said:

And Sikhs in Punjab have suffered big time under Badal & his greedy family. I'm not against BJP....I'm thankful to the party under whose Govt at least the Kangressi anti-Sikh riot organizer Scumbag Sajjan Kuman was thrown in Jail. I hope Modi wins again...cheers!!

People who have ruled Punjab are all Sikhs whether Badals or Amrinders. So, it is Sikhs suffering under Sikh govts.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, rkt.india said:

People who have ruled Punjab are all Sikhs whether Badals or Amrinders. So, it is Sikhs suffering under Sikh govts.

I know...but Badals did the most damage. what I meant was...If a Hindu Momta can give hard time to Hindus in Bengal...similar thing happened to Sikhs in Punjab...nothing like a communal situation in comparison..but more about corruption to the core and not doing anything for the well being of the state....Badals just kept making money for themselves to no end...it's a mockery of people who are suffering in the state.

Edited by Under_Score

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
21 minutes ago, Under_Score said:

And Sikhs in Punjab have suffered big time under Badal & his greedy family. I'm not against BJP....I'm thankful to the party under whose Govt at least the Kangressi anti-Sikh riot organizer Scumbag Sajjan Kuman was thrown in Jail. I hope Modi wins again...cheers!!

Don't know about his past but I like Captain Amarinder Singh and am glad that he is CM of Punjab. If he were heading Congress instead of the crooked dynasty many would have a different opinion about the party, but alas the Gandhis are like monarchs in India. Myself a Modi/BJP supporter but sincerely feel that Captain and Naveen Patnaik will do better jobs in their states than any BJP/NDA candidate. can't even say the same about KCR, Jagan, Naidu. 

Edited by Gollum

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Coming to OP, this isn't an isolated instance. Happening in 100s of villages, the demographic onslaught is real. In some places where Muslims are <10% population, the majority community has still found ways to get bullied :facepalm:. Mamata isn't the cause, she is merely one of many symptoms, just by removing Mamata don't expect things to improve overnight. Bengali Hindus have to reclaim what is rightfully theirs, don't run away from your homes, stay back and toughen up, take the fight to the bullies. 

 

Those who have never set foot in Bengal and wanna lecture about secularism, tolerance, saffron extremism, co-existence yada yada STFU. Don't preach to the sufferers from comforts of your homes. 

Edited by Gollum

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Don't get me wrong but when it comes to Muslims, sometimes events like Nellie, Bhagalpur, 2002 etc are necessary.Won't say this about any other community, only applies to Muslims. Put some fear in their minds, else prepare to get relentlessly tortured. Kerala communist stalwart and ex-CM Achuthanandan said the same once and he was a beacon of secularism. 

 

Image result for buddhist mad dog

 

Gujarat saw 2002, after that did Muslims give any trouble? Bihari Muslims post Bhagalpur? Even in UP they are tamed post Muzaffarnagar. Hell in Assam they are 35% of the population but ever see them justify that demographic? Assamese Muslims are servile compared to Muslims from other states, why? Maybe Nellie massacre of 1983 is fresh in their minds, they know the consequence of testing the patience of others? In Nagaland they behave like kittens cos they know how the Nagas retaliate. Post Jammu massacre in 47-48 haven't Jammu Muslims been on their best behavior? Did the 92-93 Bombay riots change the city for the better or worse in the long run? Hyderabad post Op Polo (Sunderlal Committee report) and 1990 riots too is under control, the Owaisis may give bhadkau bhashans but even they know the consequences of picking up arms....they have been manhandled in their bastion of Old City. Meanwhile in Kolkata there are no-go areas for non-Muslims, including police :facepalm:...Kolkattans will agree with me on this one.  

 

I have started believing that they need some attitude adjustment lesson the next time they cross limits, let libtards and pidis bark like they are conditioned to. In Bengal I wouldn't mind one bit if the Hindus aided by central forces give them hell the next time they start a riot...all communal riots under TMC reign have been one sided and all started by them. Just once retaliate strongly and see if it can change the dynamics.

Edited by Gollum

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
47 minutes ago, Gollum said:

Coming to OP, this isn't an isolated instance. Happening in 100s of villages, the demographic onslaught is real. In some places where Muslims are <10% population, the majority community has still found ways to get bullied :facepalm:. Mamata isn't the cause, she is merely one of many symptoms, just by removing Mamata don't expect things to improve overnight. Bengali Hindus have to reclaim what is rightfully theirs, don't run away from your homes, stay back and toughen up, take the fight to the bullies. 

 

Those who have never set foot in Bengal and wanna lecture about secularism, tolerance, saffron extremism, co-existence yada yada STFU. Don't preach to the sufferers from comforts of your homes. 

This aint a rhetorical question .Since you are quite knowledgeable, do you know of instances where the majority community(read significant not marginal majority) has been chased out of their homes in any other country/region .

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
7 minutes ago, MultiB48 said:

This aint a rhetorical question .Since you are quite knowledgeable, do you know of instances where the majority community(read significant not marginal majority) has been chased out of their homes in any other country/region .

Not in the recent past, I can't recall majority (significant) being chased out by minority...maybe oppressed but not displaced. Happened during colonial era for sure, eg the Aborigines in Australia by the European settlers when the balance in population was overwhelmingly in favor of the natives. 

 

I am no expert on these matters, maybe @Muloghonto our resident history expert can help you here. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.


×
×
  • Create New...