zen Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 (edited) Since 2013 vs major teams: View overall figures [change view] Primary team Bangladesh or India or Pakistan or Sri Lanka Opposition team Australia or England or India or New Zealand or Pakistan or South Africa or Sri Lanka or West Indies Start of match date greater than or equal to 1 Jan 2013 Trophy ICC Champions Trophy (ICC KnockOut) or World Cup Batting position between 1 and 3 Qualifications runs scored greater than or equal to 200 and matches played greater than or equal to 5 Ordered by batting average (descending) Page 1 of 1 Showing 1 - 7 of 7 First Previous Next Last Return to query menu Cleared query menu Overall figures Player Span Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 0 4s 6s KC Sangakkara (SL) 2013-2015 8 8 2 527 134* 87.83 604 87.25 3 1 0 51 2 S Dhawan (INDIA) 2013-2017 13 13 1 919 137 76.58 933 98.49 4 4 0 102 11 V Kohli (INDIA) 2013-2017 13 13 4 525 107 58.33 602 87.20 1 3 1 46 6 Azhar Ali (PAK) 2017-2017 5 5 0 228 76 45.60 308 74.02 0 3 0 20 3 Tamim Iqbal (BDESH) 2015-2017 8 8 0 333 128 41.62 401 83.04 1 2 2 31 7 TM Dilshan (SL) 2013-2015 8 8 1 246 62 35.14 316 77.84 0 1 1 23 3 RG Sharma (INDIA) 2013-2017 13 13 0 414 91 31.84 546 75.82 0 4 2 40 ICC events have challenges such as a) playing different teams in different games, b) playing full strength sides that have done their homework, and c) the pressure If we look at top run-getters, one trait that emerges is that successful top order players have played/play tests too, which coaches well on managing adjustments challenges and pressure scenarios Since Agarwal and Shaw are our test openers who also have the game for LOIs, I would not be surprised to see them adjust positively to the challenges of ICC events when they eventually get their opportunities after the WC! Edited May 15, 2019 by zen Link to comment
zen Posted May 15, 2019 Author Share Posted May 15, 2019 Other options include KL, who also has the game for both formats. Pant is another one who plays tests and can be promoted to the top order like Gilly was! Gollum 1 Link to comment
Gollum Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 (edited) Dude again and again you are coming to the same point, pretty sure I saw these stats in one form or the other in multiple threads Rohit will start but don't think his belly will allow him to finish the group stage, we could be looking at a Dhawan-KLR opening combo at some point. Aur tab jaake tujhe tasalli milegi . Now that IPL is done&dusted I am sure you and @maniac (and his other avatars in all their glory esp Baba 420) are on collision course. You were forced to ally as long as wolves were in the picture but now the knives will be out. I look forward to being entertained. Punjab-Bong mahayudh in chitchat and other fights here Edited May 15, 2019 by Gollum maniac, vvvslaxman and DHONI_FANN 2 1 Link to comment
zen Posted May 15, 2019 Author Share Posted May 15, 2019 6 minutes ago, Gollum said: Dude again and again you are coming to the same point, pretty sure I saw these stats in one form or the other in multiple threads Rohit will start but don't think his belly will allow him to finish the group stage, we could be looking at a Dhawan-KLR opening combo at some point. Aur tab jaake tujhe tasalli milegi . Now that IPL is done&dusted I am sure you and @maniac (and his other avatars) are on collision course. You were forced to ally as long as wolves were in the picture but now the knives will be out. I look forward to being entertained. Punjab-Bong mahayudh in chitchat and other fights here I hope those selected do well in the WC .... This topic is about re-building post-WC though as they say hope for the best, prepare for the worst Link to comment
Gollum Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 1 minute ago, zen said: I hope those selected do well in the WC .... This topic is about re-building post-WC though as they say hope for the best, prepare for the worst In that case I will root for a Pant-KLR opening pair. Left/right combo, both well placed to make best use of PP and hard ball, both not at their best in middle overs, them exciting stroke players with abundance of offensive firepower and swagger. No. 3 hopefully Gill and if he fails my preferential order will be Iyer>Shaw>Mayank>Samson considering the next couple of major LOI ICC tourneys will be held in India. Hopefully one of them owns the #3 spot and the aging Kohli (he'll be 34 during WC 2023) can follow at #4 with the experience to guide the MO and redistribute the strength of the batting unit so that it isn't too top heavy. Link to comment
zen Posted May 15, 2019 Author Share Posted May 15, 2019 4 6 minutes ago, Gollum said: In that case I will root for a Pant-KLR opening pair. Left/right combo, both well placed to make best use of PP and hard ball, both not at their best in middle overs, them exciting stroke players with abundance of offensive firepower and swagger. No. 3 hopefully Gill and if he fails my preferential order will be Iyer>Shaw>Mayank>Samson considering the next couple of major LOI ICC tourneys will be held in India. Hopefully one of them owns the #3 spot and the aging Kohli (he'll be 34 during WC 2023) can follow at #4 with the experience to guide the MO and redistribute the strength of the batting unit so that it isn't too top heavy. Pant, Shaw, Agarwal, KL and Gill are all good options. KL and Agarwal are 27-28 so 2023 WC could be the last opportunity for them if they do not significantly improve their game .... While Pant, Shaw and Gill have age on their side and are expected to keep improving their game (reached their respective peak) Link to comment
maniac Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 The entire world will he converted to Rohitism this 07/14. Link to comment
maniac Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 37 minutes ago, Gollum said: In that case I will root for a Pant-KLR opening pair. Left/right combo, both well placed to make best use of PP and hard ball, both not at their best in middle overs, them exciting stroke players with abundance of offensive firepower and swagger. No. 3 hopefully Gill and if he fails my preferential order will be Iyer>Shaw>Mayank>Samson considering the next couple of major LOI ICC tourneys will be held in India. Hopefully one of them owns the #3 spot and the aging Kohli (he'll be 34 during WC 2023) can follow at #4 with the experience to guide the MO and redistribute the strength of the batting unit so that it isn't too top heavy. KLR is nothing but a young Rohit circa 2007-2008 minus the brilliant off spin ability with a swanesque action and the rhodesesque electric fielding and the eninsteinesque cricketing mind Must admit some of his shots are amazing just like Rohits when he burst in to the scene. However long way to go still. He is a work-in-progress zen and Gollum 2 Link to comment
maniac Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 (edited) Serious question let’s say 3 runs to win off the last ball in the final , Imad Wasim hits a skier. Rohit/ Rahul is under the ball- who would you pick? same scenario. Bumrah is the bowler trying to figure out what to bowl and figuring out. Dhoni is yelling Chakka kha ke dikha. Virat is doing Bhangra at deep midwicket to amuse the fans. Who is the man you look to go and tell Bumrah, stay calm and bowl a Yorker/short ball or come up with advice. Rohit/Rahul who is your pick All the bowlers are injured or completed their quota but someone has to bowl. Rohit/Rahul who is your option. Keeping , yes Rahul has utility but Dadu is like the pumpkin used to remove the Nazar. He ain’t going anywhere. So tell me guys. Who who who? Edited May 15, 2019 by maniac vvvslaxman and AuxiliA 2 Link to comment
zen Posted May 15, 2019 Author Share Posted May 15, 2019 1 34 minutes ago, maniac said: Serious question let’s say 3 runs to win off the last ball in the final , Pointless discussion if the nightwatchman is going to avg 5 in the final View overall figures [change view] Primary team India Start of match date greater than or equal to 1 Jan 2013 Trophy ICC Champions Trophy (ICC KnockOut) or World Cup Tournament type 5+ team tournaments Match type tournament finals Ordered by batting average (descending) Page 1 of 1 Showing 1 - 15 of 15 First Previous Next Last Return to query menu Cleared query menu Overall figures Player Span Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 0 4s 6s HH Pandya 2017-2017 1 1 0 76 76 76.00 43 176.74 0 1 0 4 6 RA Jadeja 2013-2017 2 2 1 48 33* 48.00 51 94.11 0 0 0 2 2 S Dhawan 2013-2017 2 2 0 52 31 26.00 46 113.04 0 0 0 6 1 V Kohli 2013-2017 2 2 0 48 43 24.00 43 111.62 0 0 0 4 1 Yuvraj Singh 2017-2017 1 1 0 22 22 22.00 31 70.96 0 0 0 4 0 KM Jadhav 2017-2017 1 1 0 9 9 9.00 13 69.23 0 0 0 2 0 KD Karthik 2013-2013 1 1 0 6 6 6.00 11 54.54 0 0 0 0 0 RG Sharma 2013-2017 2 2 0 9 9 4.50 17 52.94 0 0 1 1 0 MS Dhoni 2013-2017 2 2 0 4 4 2.00 20 20.00 0 0 1 0 0 B Kumar 2013-2017 2 2 2 2 1* - 9 22.22 0 0 0 0 0 R Ashwin 2013-2017 2 2 0 2 1 1.00 4 50.00 0 0 0 0 0 JJ Bumrah 2017-2017 1 1 0 1 1 1.00 9 11.11 0 0 0 0 0 SK Raina 2013-2013 1 1 0 1 1 1.00 6 16.66 0 0 0 0 0 Link to comment
maniac Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 13 minutes ago, zen said: Pointless discussion if the nightwatchman is going to avg 5 in the final View overall figures [change view] Primary team India Start of match date greater than or equal to 1 Jan 2013 Trophy ICC Champions Trophy (ICC KnockOut) or World Cup Tournament type 5+ team tournaments Match type tournament finals Ordered by batting average (descending) Page 1 of 1 Showing 1 - 15 of 15 First Previous Next Last Return to query menu Cleared query menu Overall figures Player Span Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 0 4s 6s HH Pandya 2017-2017 1 1 0 76 76 76.00 43 176.74 0 1 0 4 6 RA Jadeja 2013-2017 2 2 1 48 33* 48.00 51 94.11 0 0 0 2 2 S Dhawan 2013-2017 2 2 0 52 31 26.00 46 113.04 0 0 0 6 1 V Kohli 2013-2017 2 2 0 48 43 24.00 43 111.62 0 0 0 4 1 Yuvraj Singh 2017-2017 1 1 0 22 22 22.00 31 70.96 0 0 0 4 0 KM Jadhav 2017-2017 1 1 0 9 9 9.00 13 69.23 0 0 0 2 0 KD Karthik 2013-2013 1 1 0 6 6 6.00 11 54.54 0 0 0 0 0 RG Sharma 2013-2017 2 2 0 9 9 4.50 17 52.94 0 0 1 1 0 MS Dhoni 2013-2017 2 2 0 4 4 2.00 20 20.00 0 0 1 0 0 B Kumar 2013-2017 2 2 2 2 1* - 9 22.22 0 0 0 0 0 R Ashwin 2013-2017 2 2 0 2 1 1.00 4 50.00 0 0 0 0 0 JJ Bumrah 2017-2017 1 1 0 1 1 1.00 9 11.11 0 0 0 0 0 SK Raina 2013-2013 1 1 0 1 1 1.00 6 16.66 0 0 0 0 Some times cricket is beyond runs and wickets :) Link to comment
zen Posted May 15, 2019 Author Share Posted May 15, 2019 Just now, maniac said: Some times cricket is beyond runs and wickets :) Understand but you would rather have players who create a situation where the other team has 15 runs to get off the last ball than 3 If you want to talk about IPL, he flopped in the final with the bat. Rohit has neither a higher avg or SR than Rahane in the competition. Wolves won because of the likes of Pandya and Bumrah, who are not even asking for credit. Their performance do the talking Link to comment
maniac Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 15 minutes ago, zen said: Understand but you would rather have players who create a situation where the other team has 15 runs to get off the last ball than 3 If you want to talk about IPL, he flopped in the final with the bat. Rohit has neither a higher avg or SR than Rahane in the competition. Wolves won because of the likes of Pandya and Bumrah, who are not even asking for credit. Their performance do the talking One rare offseason. He is one of the greatest IPL performers of all time 4 championships as captain 1 Champions league won as both player and captain won for 2 different franchises multiple 50s and 100s hattrick with the ball already know the international world records sometimes you you have to back your greatest ever even during a lean patch Link to comment
zen Posted May 15, 2019 Author Share Posted May 15, 2019 1 1 minute ago, maniac said: One rare offseason. He is one of the greatest IPL performers of all time 4 championships as captain 1 Champions league won as both player and captain won for 2 different franchises multiple 50s and 100s hattrick with the ball already know the international world records sometimes you you have to back your greatest ever even during a lean patch Rohit is in the WC squad though despite appearing to be past his best. Now it depends upon how he performs .... and eventually, would need to be replaced by batsmen who can perform at that level or better, and will also go on to improve in future Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 3 hours ago, maniac said: Serious question let’s say 3 runs to win off the last ball in the final , Imad Wasim hits a skier. Rohit/ Rahul is under the ball- who would you pick? same scenario. Bumrah is the bowler trying to figure out what to bowl and figuring out. Dhoni is yelling Chakka kha ke dikha. Virat is doing Bhangra at deep midwicket to amuse the fans. Who is the man you look to go and tell Bumrah, stay calm and bowl a Yorker/short ball or come up with advice. Rohit/Rahul who is your pick All the bowlers are injured or completed their quota but someone has to bowl. Rohit/Rahul who is your option. Keeping , yes Rahul has utility but Dadu is like the pumpkin used to remove the Nazar. He ain’t going anywhere. So tell me guys. Who who who? Great Animal Lover Great Model Link to comment
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