zen Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Forward Defence said: So you agree that even in matches where he takes his time getting to 50, India rarely lose. And what exactly is the context here? Would you trade a win for a higher powerplay score? We all know our batting is top heavy. I don't want our second best batsman to lose his wicket early just to boost powerplay scores. Especially when we know that post his 50 he can single-handedly win us matches Ind (or even MI) can win even if Rohit is not in the squad or despite him. The point is about playing as per the conditions and doing the job for Ind .... I did not ask you what you want. The point is about playing to benefit the team! Edited May 17, 2019 by zen Link to comment
zen Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 (edited) I do not follow Pak cricket much but it appears as if someone will have to have a great game/tournament to challenge top sides. Could cause upsets on their day but playing consistently well in 6-8 games in round robin could turn out to be a challenge. May be BD could have a chance against them Edited May 17, 2019 by zen Link to comment
Forward Defence Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 6 minutes ago, zen said: Ind (or even MI) can win even if Rohit is not in the squad or despite him. The point is about playing as per the conditions and doing the job for Ind .... I did not ask you what you want. The point is about playing to benefit the team! I think most people would agree that Rohit's presence improves our chances. I fail to understand why you think he does not benefit the team? He has played a hand in winning us loads of matches, second only to Kohli in recent times. This is just a fact. maniac 1 Link to comment
putrevus Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 Wow if Pakistan is scoring this many runs , have they improved their batting or England's bowling is this bad?? Link to comment
Franco Vazquez Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 Just now, putrevus said: Wow if Pakistan is scoring this many runs , have they improved their batting or England's bowling is this bad?? Pitch. This pitch is 400+ yet they are striking at less than run a ball so that means they are not batting as good as it seems Link to comment
maniac Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 On these kind of pitches, who the hell apart from @zen thinks a guy who has multiple 200s and T20 100s and many many 180+ scores will be useless Forward Defence 1 Link to comment
maniac Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, putrevus said: Wow if Pakistan is scoring this many runs , have they improved their batting or England's bowling is this bad?? It’s the pitch. England just chase 360+ with 5 overs to spare. Link to comment
Forward Defence Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 1 minute ago, putrevus said: Wow if Pakistan is scoring this many runs , have they improved their batting or England's bowling is this bad?? England started off with some furious pace today. Ruffled Imam and got him retired hurt. Once the pacers started to be taken for runs England have looked to contain. Pakistan have batted well especially Babar but in these conditions probably 370 is par Link to comment
Norman Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 3 minutes ago, maniac said: On these kind of pitches, who the hell apart from @zen thinks a guy who has multiple 200s and T20 100s and many many 180+ scores will be useless No one. maniac, Forward Defence and Zero_Unit 3 Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 18 minutes ago, zen said: I do not follow Pak cricket much but it appears as if someone will have to have a great game/tournament to challenge top sides. Could cause upsets on their day but playing consistently well in 6-8 games in round robin could turn out to be a challenge. May be BD could have a chance against them PAk always does well in england and in pressure situation.....high chances they ll be in top 4 WC n bilateral are diff ball game.....pressure plays a huge role Link to comment
putrevus Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 6 minutes ago, maniac said: It’s the pitch. England just chase 360+ with 5 overs to spare. I know it is the pitch but it is also the bowling. If England keep thinking they will keep chasing 360 plus totals every day ,they will lose a knockout match. How many runs do you think Indian bowling will allow on this pitch?? Link to comment
maniac Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 13 minutes ago, putrevus said: I know it is the pitch but it is also the bowling. If England keep thinking they will keep chasing 360 plus totals every day ,they will lose a knockout match. How many runs do you think Indian bowling will allow on this pitch?? 330 odd but also how much can they make or chase if the top 3 have a middle of the road day? they are not getting 350+ too often either Link to comment
putrevus Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 1 minute ago, maniac said: 330 odd but also how much can they make or chase if the top 3 have a middle of the road day? they are not getting 350+ too often either India cannot chase 250 even of flattest pitches if top three don't do anything. Some ignorant people think that India is better off without Rohit Sharma opening.Or Rahul should be made into an opener . Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 On flat wickets like this Dhoni will go slower than these guys Norman 1 Link to comment
zen Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Forward Defence said: I think most people would agree that Rohit's presence improves our chances. I fail to understand why you think he does not benefit the team? He has played a hand in winning us loads of matches, second only to Kohli in recent times. This is just a fact. I am aware of those "fans". To go in depth, you would need to understand his SRs early on, his conversation rate, his performance in ICC events vs major teams (not just BD), performance in bilaterals, and so on. He would benefit the team if he plays as per situation/conditions. Based on your points, I can show that Ind can benefit by playing my pets in the 11 as long as it wins A quick fact based on "recent" data (do your own analysis) In 2019, Ind has played 13 games so far In those 13 games, Rohit has 8 scores of below 50 (unacceptably low conversation considering his SR and 1 100 in 13 games) In those 8 games, he avgs 15 with a SR of 57, the lowest among top 7 with 3 innings In the games where he scored 50+, Ind only won 2 Ind won 6 games when he scored less than 50 In these 6 games, Rohit has the lowest avg of 17 and SR of 56 among top 4 with more than 1 game. So Ind won 75% of its games, when Rohit failed Substitute XYZ with Rohit and his fan can justify his "benefits" too as long as Ind won those 6 games .... Enjoy the game! .... and I hope Rohit lives up to your expectations in the WC this time (his poor record in ICC events vs major teams sans BD is available too) Edited May 17, 2019 by zen Link to comment
sandeep Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 10 minutes ago, ssurenn said: babar azam 100... And out. Link to comment
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