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6 minutes ago, bahubali said:

You want a rashid or kuldeep as a bowler ,you want bumrah or Willy as bowler, or you want shami or wokes as in your bowler you decide. Eng can still very much loose the game after scoring 350.

That is the tradeoff .Indian team's strength till Australian series has been its bowling and keeping other teams from scoring big score .So we cannot whine and complain why Rohit Sharma is batting slow.He is the best hitter we got, you just hope he sticks around in important matches.

 

rahul has played 13 matches and has almost zero experience at no4 , Shanker is worse, but we expect them to compete with Morgan and Stokes.

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1 hour ago, putrevus said:

That is the tradeoff .Indian team's strength till Australian series has been its bowling and keeping other teams from scoring big score .So we cannot whine and complain why Rohit Sharma is batting slow.He is the best hitter we got, you just hope he sticks around in important matches.

 

rahul has played 13 matches and has almost zero experience at no4 , Shanker is worse, but we expect them to compete with Morgan and Stokes.

Stokes is also a once in a blue moon type player. Reality is eng or any other team everyone depends on top 4. Only thing is eng has butter down the order which ll make the difference other than that they have bits and pieces players who can hold the bat and hack some boundaries , but let me tell you if chips are down they are not going to provide the same thurst as they do in favourable situation.

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7 hours ago, bahubali said:

Stokes is also a once in a blue moon type player. Reality is eng or any other team everyone depends on top 4. Only thing is eng has butter down the order which ll make the difference other than that they have bits and pieces players who can hold the bat and hack some boundaries , but let me tell you if chips are down they are not going to provide the same thurst as they do in favourable situation.

You are wrong, last match Tom Curran scored 31 and this match he scored 29.He bats at no 10.They bat till no 11. I am not saying England is unbeatable, they were blasted for 113 by WI not long ago. But on flat pitches, you cannot beat them. 

 

Think what happened in last series against England. India could not chase 322, which is a reasonable total given the nature of pitches there.But if we don't have contribution from top three India cannot score 250.

 

Next match they scored 250 without any major 100s again from top three. Bottom line is Indian batting cannot do much if their top three fail to score big 100s. Pandyas and Rahuls  can't do anything.

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15 hours ago, putrevus said:

You are wrong, last match Tom Curran scored 31 and this match he scored 29.He bats at no 10.They bat till no 11. I am not saying England is unbeatable, they were blasted for 113 by WI not long ago. But on flat pitches, you cannot beat them. 

 

Think what happened in last series against England. India could not chase 322, which is a reasonable total given the nature of pitches there.But if we don't have contribution from top three India cannot score 250.

 

Next match they scored 250 without any major 100s again from top three. Bottom line is Indian batting cannot do much if their top three fail to score big 100s. Pandyas and Rahuls  can't do anything.

Don't fool yours3lf with pak series where they tried batter till 11. Archer and woods are going to play in 11 and not Curran and Willy also out of Stokes and woods only one would play. Second indian bowling is much better than any one in this series the 323 which they scored we  dint have bhuvi, bumrah and shami and one game where kuli clicked he ate them alive. No team can win tournaments by playing 1 to 11 batsmen. They marginally beat pakistan who are most pathetic batting lineup hardly. So please stop fooling around as if eng is aus or wi of past.

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2 minutes ago, bahubali said:

Don't fool yours3lf with pak series where they tried batter till 11. Archer and woods are going to play in 11 and not Curran and Willy also out of Stokes and woods only one would play. Second indian bowling is much better than any one in this series the 323 which they scored we  dint have bhuvi, bumrah and shami and one game where kuli clicked he ate them alive. No team can win tournaments by playing 1 to 11 batsmen. They marginally beat pakistan who are most pathetic batting lineup hardly. So please stop fooling around as if eng is aus or wi of past.

I am not fooling myself with anything.We saw what happened against England last year. Indian bowlers did very reasonable job in all matches but batting cost them two matches and series.

 

It is not about Pakistan or England.It is about India and what they are capable to score if top three don't contribute with big 100s.

 

It is unfair on Rahul if we ask him to pull miracles as he has not had any experience at no4. If you play Jadhav, fast bowling becomes so weak.Pandya has to bowl 7 plus over every match.Do you think he is capable of doing it.

 

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53 minutes ago, putrevus said:

I am not fooling myself with anything.We saw what happened against England last year. Indian bowlers did very reasonable job in all matches but batting cost them two matches and series.

 

It is not about Pakistan or England.It is about India and what they are capable to score if top three don't contribute with big 100s.

 

It is unfair on Rahul if we ask him to pull miracles as he has not had any experience at no4. If you play Jadhav, fast bowling becomes so weak.Pandya has to bowl 7 plus over every match.Do you think he is capable of doing it.

 

Why not he did that in all the matches which he played so far. In english condition other than specialist wc bowler like bum4ah, Cummins , kuldip everyone is going to get thrashed. India dint win odis but remember they win t20 against same team and one occasion chased more than 200 in 20 overs. I know india has weakness in middle order but it's a most balanced team out of all pathetic teams.

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2 hours ago, bahubali said:

Why not he did that in all the matches which he played so far. In english condition other than specialist wc bowler like bum4ah, Cummins , kuldip everyone is going to get thrashed. India dint win odis but remember they win t20 against same team and one occasion chased more than 200 in 20 overs. I know india has weakness in middle order but it's a most balanced team out of all pathetic teams.

Didn't Pandya play in odis in England last year, what did he do again??? he took 1 wicket in three matches going over over 7 and scored 21 as his highest .He will have to bowl 7 plus over every match.

 

Pandya is good for maybe cameos but other than that he cannot do much.They won t20s because of Kuldeep.Rohit made 100 in one and Rahul made one.

 

Odis is not same as T20s, you need to bat longer and bowl longer spells.

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Just because he dint do  last time so he ll not do again. How many bowler in just concluded series in eng has run rate less than 7. If you are gng to eng keep ur expectations less from your  5th bowlers. Pandya has shown his capabilities in the past and he is imoroving with time he is lesser worry for india right now than aged middle order.

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11 hours ago, putrevus said:

 

Pandya is good for maybe cameos but other than that he cannot do much.They won t20s because of Kuldeep.Rohit made 100 in one and Rahul made one.

We won 3rd t20 also becoz of pandya's bowling......go n check the scorecard eng blasted us at start . Pandya came took 4 wkts and stopped them under 200 

 

http://www.espncricinfo.com/series/18018/scorecard/1119545/england-vs-india-3rd-t20i-ind-in-eng-2018

 

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10 hours ago, bahubali said:

Just because he dint do  last time so he ll not do again. How many bowler in just concluded series in eng has run rate less than 7. If you are gng to eng keep ur expectations less from your  5th bowlers. Pandya has shown his capabilities in the past and he is imoroving with time he is lesser worry for india right now than aged middle order.

I will take Dhoni over Pandya anyday even now. I know Dhoni will win low scoring matches atleast.

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31 minutes ago, putrevus said:

Yuvraj scored a 150 in 2017 too , do I want him in the team.

so ur comparing someone who is done n dusted to someone who is growing, yuvraj got older and pandya matured

U see  the diff or wanna live in denial. Coz u dnt wanna count when he performs and wants to highlight when he doesnt 

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Yuvi is probably nowhere he was before. But he was the most intimidating batsman for India alongwith Sehwag.  The dismissive shots against seamers breath taking. He hardly has follow through, he hardly loses balance.He thrashed the Australian bowling in his debut ODI. He looked the part.  We don't have that intimidating factor anymore. Pandya has to achieve more to be called intimidating.

 

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20 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

so ur comparing someone who is done n dusted to someone who is growing, yuvraj got older and pandya matured

U see  the diff or wanna live in denial. Coz u dnt wanna count when he performs and wants to highlight when he doesnt 

Pandya to me is a bits and pieces player who can be good for cameo here and there but I have not see anything from him which suggests he can play major part in Indian team's success.He is going to be liability on bowling which is more of a concern.

 

When he does something significant, I will change my opinion on him.

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9 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

Yuvi is probably nowhere he was before. But he was the most intimidating batsman for India alongwith Sehwag.  The dismissive shots against seamers breath taking. He hardly has follow through, he hardly loses balance.He thrashed the Australian bowling in his debut ODI. He looked the part.  We don't have that intimidating factor anymore. Pandya has to achieve more to be called intimidating.

 

Yuvi is a legend in Indian cricket, Pandya has long long way to reach that stage.

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12 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

Yuvi is probably nowhere he was before. But he was the most intimidating batsman for India alongwith Sehwag.  The dismissive shots against seamers breath taking. He hardly has follow through, he hardly loses balance.He thrashed the Australian bowling in his debut ODI. He looked the part.  We don't have that intimidating factor anymore. Pandya has to achieve more to be called intimidating.

 

India beat them 6-0 or something in this seriea. They cried and left before the 7th match. Was it this series ? Hehe Yuvi used to like them then a lot.

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India misses a guy like Yuvi in the middle order so much.He could play both roles build a innings at good pace if early wickets fell and also had ability to clear boundaries when needed, he should have done lot more with his talent.I really hope Rahul does well at no4.

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