maniac Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 Our strength this World Cup is clearly bowling. However, it is a no-brainer that to win games bowlers are expected to deliver regardless of the surface.Be it an absolute belter or a tricky surface or a good even-paced one bowlers have to get the job done for a team to win. Now let us look at the batting. On an absolute belter considering we get a good start, an inform KL Rahul will be the deciding factor when the top 3 batsmen of set will start taking risks. Usually overs 30-40 these days has become the momentum point in OdI cricket. Our top 3 have won us most games in recent times.On flat pitches they usually raise their game to a different level but they might and will at times miss out,That is the nature of this sport. This where the no.4 position becomes absolutely crucial. On tricky surfaces or even on even-paced tracks there will be a situation where the No.4 will build with either one of the top 3 batsman or the middle - lower middle order. This is not a Dhoni bashing thread because all trolling aside, I think Dhoni has his utility. Like it or not, He is going to Marshall the bowling changes and field placings and in an utter hopeless situation he has shown the ability to hang in there and get us to a total to give the bowlers something to bowl at may be not a match winning one most times. The criticism of MSD has been that once the top 3 go he just shuts down shop, here is where the no.4 can form a crucial partnership and get things moving along with Dhoni holding up one end. Pandya’s role is pretty one dimensional at the moment. He is expected to play quick fire cameos and this has nothing to do with his ability as a bat but that is the role he has been assigned which he has done quite admirably. There is a reason why I am pin pointing Rahul Jadhav right now is only trusted to be a utility cricketer. This is not my personal bias but that’s the way he has been played and that’s how his role has been assigned. This leaves us with Shankar and DK. Rahul over Shankar any day as Rahul’a batting exploits in the other 2 formats speak for themselves and we already have 6 bowling options. Dk has been assigned the role of a finisher. common sense points to Rahul being the initial no.4 and this is a guy who has overseas 100s, T20 100s, so the ability is clearly there. Now he has been thrusted in a position to be the spine of our batting. Hopefully A line up of Rohit,Dhawan,Virat, Rahul, MSD,Jadhav,Pandya,Kul-Cha,Shami- Bumrah doesn’t look too bad. In fact looks pretty solid on paper than say replacing Rahul with Shankar or Dk. This is why Rahul’s form and performance will be the difference between India winning the WC and struggling in the tournament. Every name in what looks like the starting X1 is expected to perform and sure they will have their failures but they have cemented their place at the moment. An in-form and firing Rahul will be the difference maker. diehardpacer 1 Link to comment
Jimmy Cliff Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 Oh FFS Gollum, velu, nevada and 2 others 1 3 1 Link to comment
maniac Posted May 22, 2019 Author Share Posted May 22, 2019 7 minutes ago, Jimmy Cliff said: Oh FFS I am not saying he will set the stage in fire. I am saying he is thrust in a position to be the backbone of the side. This can apply to Shankar as well. However picking Rahul based on how he looks likely to start. Never say never with Rat and Bewda Link to comment
Gollum Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 (edited) Some may pray that KL doesn't do to the World Cup Trophy what Drogon did to the Iron Throne. KLR completely understands that our real enemy is the Cup, that is the source of our unhappiness, tension, worries, anger etc. Rahul is above these earthly matters, knowing full well that cricket is meant to be enjoyed and not part of a rat race to win some damn trophy that comes every 4 years. But for mere mortal fans that cup hold some value (myself included), we aren't detached from materialistic desires, we aren't enlightened souls. We are greedy, selfish and have a whole range of negative emotions that will always hinder our search for the true meaning of life. Either Rahul will destroy our WC chances as a lesson to Indians about life and our dharmic root system...basically not to fret over these small things. Or he may choose to help us win the cup to satisfy our cravings, a one time concession by a Guru to his followers almost like a treat, lest they find the long drawn exercise of spiritual cleansing boring resulting in loss of motivation. So no matter what what the result, KLR is doing his best to benefit the decadent Indian society. To me he is already the MOS before a ball is bowled. As a humble devotee I will take either of the 2 scenarios with utmost humility, knowing full well that Guru knows me better than I know myself. Edited May 22, 2019 by Gollum Kothili and velu 2 Link to comment
Norman Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 (edited) .. Edited May 22, 2019 by Norman Link to comment
Norman Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 27 minutes ago, Gollum said: Some may pray that KL doesn't do to the World Cup Trophy what Drogon did to the Iron Throne. KLR completely understands that our real enemy is the Cup, that is the source of our unhappiness, tension, worries, anger etc. Rahul is above these earthly matters, knowing full well that cricket is meant to be enjoyed and not part of a rat race to win some damn trophy that comes every 4 years. But for mere mortal fans that cup hold some value (myself included), we aren't detached from materialistic desires, we aren't enlightened souls. We are greedy, selfish and have a whole range of negative emotions that will always hinder our search for the true meaning of life. Either Rahul will destroy our WC chances as a lesson to Indians about life and our dharmic root system. Or he may choose to help us win the cup to satisfy our cravings, a one time concession by a Guru to his followers almost like a treat, lest they find the long drawn exercise of spiritual cleansing boring resulting in loss of motivation. So no matter what what the result, KLR is doing his best to benefit the decadent Indian society. To me he is already the MOS before a ball is bowled. As a humble devotee I will take either of the 2 scenarios with utmost humility, knowing full well that Guru knows me better than I know myself. Stan AF 1 Link to comment
ViruDilSeKhelo Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 (edited) No matter what Kohli says about not needing warm ups in England and IPL being enough, he is wrong. It would have eliminated a lot of questions if we had warm ups. For the Pakistani it was no good, they replaced dead wood with more dead wood. But for us it would have helped a lot. We may have seen Shankar fail at number 4, maybe Rahul would have done a good job. Perhaps we would realise we need fire power and put Pant into the team. I'm upset BCCI didn't use their brains here. We will play a consistent team in the first 2 games and then Kohli will change if there was any failure which I agree with. I think he'll go with the team you chose. We have zero idea about Rahul at 4 since he's only played a few games (as everyone failed in this position so no one got many games). Doesn't matter what he did in T20 or tests, totally different, he's a natural opener but talented to adapt. If he fails at 4 I would use him like a T20 player with Pandya down the innings, he has a very good SR so come in at 6. In that case I would put Dhoni at 4. Jadhav 5. Dhoni got to take more responsibility if world cup is on the line and experiments failing. Edited May 22, 2019 by ViruDilSeKhelo Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 This thread will harm KL more the kofffee with karan ......sad as he was just catching some form nevada and Cricketics 1 1 Link to comment
sandeep Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 7 hours ago, Norman said: I hear weed has been legalized in a lot of US states. Might have something do with this post. Link to comment
Real McCoy Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 @maniac The following clip encapsulates ICFers reaction to your post George Taylor [Charlton Heston ]: You maniacs!… You blew it up!… Ah, damn you!… God damn you all to hell!! sandeep 1 Link to comment
maniac Posted May 22, 2019 Author Share Posted May 22, 2019 4 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: This thread will harm KL more the kofffee with karan ......sad as he was just catching some form No wonder you work in Bollywood with that attention span and comprehension issues. Please go back and read what I wrote Laaloo 1 Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 (edited) 11 minutes ago, maniac said: No wonder you work in Bollywood with that attention span and comprehension issues. Please go back and read what I wrote probably u need to start with putting right headline and is it necessary to get my profession in every time . Since u had everybody here in confusion that clearly suggest where the problem lies- in ur headline. Ill give u a better one - " KL shud be backed by TM for no.4 Slot" Edited May 22, 2019 by Ankit_sharma03 Link to comment
cowboysfan Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 Seriusoly?? Rahul might not get a game if Shankar plays well. Link to comment
maniac Posted May 22, 2019 Author Share Posted May 22, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, cowboysfan said: Seriusoly?? Rahul might not get a game if Shankar plays well. Yes. TM has a history of screw ups and boneheaded decisions. However Rahul has a history and capability of playing long innings in the other 2 formats, Shankar doesn’t. No.4 position is going to be the backbone of our side with a weak and inconsistent middle order. So that makes Rahul performing absolutely mandatory Edited May 22, 2019 by maniac diehardpacer 1 Link to comment
Kothili Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 If he fails at the WC, surely curtains for him and Biryani will be back in a flash. Link to comment
Gollum Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 10 hours ago, Norman said: What is there not to understand? Summary: Rahul is already MOS, and no matter what he does in the tournament it is for a greater purpose which will benefit cricket, Indian society, humanity. Shorter Summary: Who are we to question him? Norman 1 Link to comment
Gollum Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Kothili said: If he fails at the WC, surely curtains for him and Biryani will be back in a flash. What was brat thinking when he didn't give KLR 3 consecutive chances in the team? 13 odd ODIs in the last 4 years Rahane, Rayudu, Pandey, Yuvraj, Raina have played cumulative >100 matches at #4 in the same time frame and none of them are in the squad. Edited May 22, 2019 by Gollum Link to comment
Kothili Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, Gollum said: What was brat thinking when he didn't give KLR 3 consecutive chances in the team? Some sort of twisted insecurity I guess. Gollum 1 Link to comment
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