Respect to Bengalis (and updates post the election result)

[vice]

This thread looks more like shame to the Bengalis with all the negative new.  It should be Respect to the BJP, who as outsiders, have made a BIG dent into the Bengalis and have come as the heroes from their own Bengali thug jihadi didi.  What have the local Bengali leaders done except for regressive society.  Bengal is a waste compared to the other promising states such as Tamil Nadu, Gujarat, Maharashtra. 

 

BJP should make inroads and bring the BJP and Hindi culture into Bengal.  Hindi should gain more importance into Bengal.

[coffee_rules]

 

 

[Muloghonto]

On 5/31/2019 at 8:11 AM, vice said:

This thread looks more like shame to the Bengalis with all the negative new.  It should be Respect to the BJP, who as outsiders, have made a BIG dent into the Bengalis and have come as the heroes from their own Bengali thug jihadi didi.  What have the local Bengali leaders done except for regressive society.  Bengal is a waste compared to the other promising states such as Tamil Nadu, Gujarat, Maharashtra. 

 

BJP should make inroads and bring the BJP and Hindi culture into Bengal.  Hindi should gain more importance into Bengal.

Hindi is already pretty important in Bengal but most of your regressive hindi belt culture is not welcome. we've lead the modern day Indians into a better society for a 150 years, we took a 50 year break but we are going to come back again as the intellectual & spiritual engine of India. 

[Charlie_]

53 minutes ago, Muloghonto said:

Hindi is already pretty important in Bengal but most of your regressive hindi belt culture is not welcome. we've lead the modern day Indians into a better society for a 150 years, we took a 50 year break but we are going to come back again as the intellectual & spiritual engine of India. 

Many Indian states are known for something. Like enterprising people, decent law and order, hard-working ppl, decent civic sense, fast diminishing poverty, hygiene, clean roads, half decent bureaucracy. Can someone who is from Bengal enlighten rest of us about what's great about Bengali society? Are there any pockets in Bengal that are comparable to other performing states? Is there hope those pockets will lead the way and rest of Bengal will one day clean up its act.

 

Indian MSM staffed in the most part by Bengali's has sold only this image of Bengal. Is Bengal still the same? Genuine Inquiry. 

Edited June 1, 2019 by Charlie_

[Muloghonto]

30 minutes ago, Charlie_ said:

Many Indian states are known for something. Like enterprising people, decent law and order, hard-working ppl, decent civic sense, fast diminishing poverty, hygiene, clean roads, half decent bureaucracy. Can someone who is from Bengal enlighten rest of us about what's great about Bengali society? Are there any pockets in Bengal that are comparable to other performing states? Is there hope those pockets will lead the way and rest of Bengal will one day clean up its act.

 

Indian MSM staffed in the most part by Bengali's has sold only this image of Bengal. Is Bengal still the same? Genuine Inquiry. 

clean roads ? in India ? really ?

 

We are just as hard working as rest of India is, our poverty is also one of the faster diminishing ones in India. And we are defintely not as much into rape culture as the hindi belt is. 

[vice]

18 hours ago, Muloghonto said:

Hindi is already pretty important in Bengal but most of your regressive hindi belt culture is not welcome. we've lead the modern day Indians into a better society for a 150 years, we took a 50 year break but we are going to come back again as the intellectual & spiritual engine of India. 

Shown the rest of India? Delusional Bengalis.  Is that what they teach in your madrassas there? Hilarious Propaganda

 

All you got was some good timing when your Big Daddy, the British rescued you from the shackles of the Muslims.  The British, along with pillaging the locals for trade, did actually build infrastructure and universities in Bengal from which Bengalis benefited for sure.  Even today, Bengal reeks of its colonial past from trams to cricket grounds built and named by the white men. 

 

Bengalis are the same spineless people who shat themselves and prostated before a dozen muslims.  Probably, one of the most subservient acts in the history of India.  Credit to them though, they did show some fight against the British after they were shunned. Otherwise, Bengalis were busy sucking up to the British for the first century and more.  Bengalis have been the biggest b*tches of the Muslims and British and they say it with pride that they paid the most taxes to their masters the Mughals/Muslims for centuries.  Other places around India fought against the Mughal/outside Muslim forces and actually regained and developed new kingdoms like the Marathas and Sikhs whereas the Bengalis were too busy paying taxes. 

 

After independence, Bengal was probably given the best of infrastructure and educational institutes courtesy the British but Bengalis did zilc once their masters went back.  Whatever little Bengalis accomplished is courtessy their masters the British handing them the educational infrastructure in the form of universities and research academics but Bengalis floundered all that when the light was shown a little away from them.  By themselves they couldn't even lift themselves.  

 

Even now, outsiders in the form the BJP came knocking again to rescue the Bengalis when they fear that their state is being overtaken by the muslims.  Couldn't do anything by themselves.  Jihadi Didi, a fellow Bengali, defines everything that is wrong with the Bengalis. Stuck in the past..waiting for their masters to rescue them once again.

 

Remember just saying  JaiSriRam and you Bengalis lose your marbles.   

[randomGuy]

Respect to the Brave Bengali Hindus. People across India admire the courage with which you stand firm against TMC criminals and state machinery. Your sacrifices shall not go waste.

[Muloghonto]

49 minutes ago, vice said:

Shown the rest of India? Delusional Bengalis.  Is that what they teach in your madrassas there? Hilarious Propaganda

we stopped the sick practice of Sati, the Bengal reneissance saw more scientists in India from 1870s-1950s than rest of India put together. We still have the most nobel lauriates and nominees from India. 

49 minutes ago, vice said:

All you got was some good timing when your Big Daddy, the British rescued you from the shackles of the Muslims.  The British, along with pillaging the locals for trade, did actually build infrastructure and universities in Bengal from which Bengalis benefited for sure.  Even today, Bengal reeks of its colonial past from trams to cricket grounds built and named by the white men. 

Err, along with Bihar, we also hosted more universities than rest of India put together and educated you guys from the classical period onwards. 

49 minutes ago, vice said:

Bengalis are the same spineless people who shat themselves and prostated before a dozen muslims.  Probably, one of the most subservient acts in the history of India.

Better to be spineless and submit to superior power than resist like a fool and get killed and raped. At least we didn't get our women and children raped like the stupid Rajputs did. Discretion is the better part of valor, as the saying goes. 

49 minutes ago, vice said:

 Credit to them though, they did show some fight against the British after they were shunned. Otherwise, Bengalis were busy sucking up to the British for the first century and more.  Bengalis have been the biggest b*tches of the Muslims and British and they say it with pride that they paid the most taxes to their masters the Mughals/Muslims for centuries.

We paid the most tax because we were the richest. Mughals charged chauth as tax all over. Those who were richer, paid more. 

49 minutes ago, vice said:

 Other places around India fought against the Mughal/outside Muslim forces and actually regained and developed new kingdoms like the Marathas and Sikhs whereas the Bengalis were too busy paying taxes. 

No, we were too busy being richer than the rest and not caring about politics. Richer the region, less politically inclined or controversial it tends to be, thats a trend in human history. 

49 minutes ago, vice said:

 

After independence, Bengal was probably given the best of infrastructure and educational institutes courtesy the British but Bengalis did zilc once their masters went back.  Whatever little Bengalis accomplished is courtessy their masters the British handing them the educational infrastructure in the form of universities and research academics but Bengalis floundered all that when the light was shown a little away from them.  By themselves they couldn't even lift themselves.  

We regressed because Congress was anti-bengali due to jealousy towards Bose and we were consistently shafted in the infrastructure budgets. At least we were far more self respecting than the spineless hindi-stanis who kept the vile congress going and now pretend, like the nuevo rich, johnny come lately, that they did something 'special'. Never forget you were licking the Gandhi boots while we were busy tossing them away. 

 

[vice]

1 hour ago, Muloghonto said:

we stopped the sick practice of Sati, the Bengal reneissance saw more scientists in India from 1870s-1950s than rest of India put together. We still have the most nobel lauriates and nominees from India. 

There were numerous factions/regions against Sati well before. A quick google shows In the 16^th Century, in the Punjab region, one of the sikh gurus, Guru Amardas preached against the practice of Sati and this anti-sati sentiment continued.  In fact, it was the British that brought in laws to outlaw Sati.

 

Yeah, Bengal had scientists because it was the first regions to be colonized by the British.  Other regions were annexed 100 years later.  And while the scientists from the Bengal region was promising, it was basically due to the infrastructure and research facilities setup by the British who gave opportunities for the locals for research despite pillaging them via trade.

Academic accomplishments?  The Tamils easily wipe the floor with the most Nobel Prize winners and in Math.  All the Bengalis have is a “nobel” prize winners in economics and literature which the purists don’t even count as half a medal.  Even the Punjabis have nobel prize winners than Bengalis.  Tamil and Punjabis are ahead of the Bengalis in the nobel prize winner category.  Overall, Tamils are the undisputed leaders in this.

[vice]

1 hour ago, Muloghonto said:

Err, along with Bihar, we also hosted more universities than rest of India put together and educated you guys from the classical period onwards. 

Nalanda and Taxila are two prominent and important faculties of education in the history of India and both. First one falls in Bihar and the latter in Punjab.  Let's face it, it was the infrastructure of universities  and research that helped the locals move forward in the sciences during that period.  Considering Bengal was colonized 100 years before the other parts of India, it had a head start.  Like stated earlier, British came as a boon for the Bengalis..otherwise they would have been paying the taxes to their muslim rulers for centuries most likely.

[vice]

1 hour ago, Muloghonto said:

Better to be spineless and submit to superior power than resist like a fool and get killed and raped. At least we didn't get our women and children raped like the stupid Rajputs did. Discretion is the better part of valor, as the saying goes. 

Prostating before a dozen horsemen isn't quite the tale of being smart but rather cowardice.  Other regions freed themselves from the shackles of the invading Mughals/muslim in due time while the Bengalis were being subservient by paying their taxes and taking pride in that. Valor and bravery is fighting for your rights and injustice. 

[vice]

1 hour ago, Muloghonto said:

We paid the most tax because we were the richest. Mughals charged chauth as tax all over. Those who were richer, paid more. 

No, we were too busy being richer than the rest and not caring about politics. Richer the region, less politically inclined or controversial it tends to be, thats a trend in human history. 

 

Err no. Paying tax like subservient cowards and being ruled by the invading forces of Mughals/Muslims doesn't make you the 'richest'.  The locals and land was basically setup as nike sweat shops.  The richest were actually the Mughals/muslims who were the Bengali overlords in actuality.  If the government funds more money into a certain area, then of course that area will flourish.  Hardly, anything to do with the ingenuity of the locals.  

 

Haha at too busy being rich.  Bengalis were merely the b*tches of the Mughals/Muslims.  They took the most of the shares compared to the locals.  The zimidar type high taxes also has its origins in  Bengal during the Mughal/Muslim dynasties. And here, some fools are happy with being 'rich' when in fact they were used being used and pillaged.

[Muloghonto]

16 minutes ago, vice said:

There were numerous factions/regions against Sati well before. A quick google shows In the 16^th Century, in the Punjab region, one of the sikh gurus, Guru Amardas preached against the practice of Sati and this anti-sati sentiment continued.  In fact, it was the British that brought in laws to outlaw Sati.

The British brought the laws due to the activism of RRR. Being against it is all fine and dandy, but what matters is who stopped it- and it was RRR who stopped it. 

16 minutes ago, vice said:

 

Yeah, Bengal had scientists because it was the first regions to be colonized by the British.  Other regions were annexed 100 years later.  And while the scientists from the Bengal region was promising, it was basically due to the infrastructure and research facilities setup by the British who gave opportunities for the locals for research despite pillaging them via trade.

What infrastructure and research was set up in Bengal ? most bengali scientists did so on their own research, corresponding with scientists from Europe directly. As for bengal being first, the first rule of Brits in India is Tamil Nadu. They collected the diwani tax for Tanjore and Madurai nayaks, this is specifically how Clive funded his bengal expedition. The Coromandel coast came under Brit influence 20 years after Bengal did. And what scientists emerged from there ?!?

16 minutes ago, vice said:

Academic accomplishments?  The Tamils easily wipe the floor with the most Nobel Prize winners and in Math.  All the Bengalis have is a “nobel” prize winners in economics and literature which the purists don’t even count as half a medal.  Even the Punjabis have nobel prize winners than Bengalis.  Tamil and Punjabis are ahead of the Bengalis in the nobel prize winner category.  Overall, Tamils are the undisputed leaders in this.

The science is largely due to the fact that hardly any colored person won the nobel prior to 1950s, which is the period when Bengal dominated. This is why we still have the most nobel nominations from Indian history. 

[Muloghonto]

3 minutes ago, vice said:

Err no. Paying tax like subservient cowards and being ruled by the invading forces of Mughals/Muslims doesn't make you the 'richest'.  The locals and land was basically setup as nike sweat shops.  The richest were actually the Mughals/muslims who were the Bengali overlords in actuality.  If the government funds more money into a certain area, then of course that area will flourish.  Hardly, anything to do with the ingenuity of the locals.  

We were the richest because tax info shows so. Mughals collected uniform tax from ALL OVER. Chauth. The provinces who paid more did so because they were richer. This is straightforward math, buddy. And if thats not sufficient, i can quote plenty of Delhi Sultans and Mughal accounts that specifically call Bengal the richest region of the empire. 

 

[Muloghonto]

12 minutes ago, vice said:

Prostating before a dozen horsemen isn't quite the tale of being smart but rather cowardice.  Other regions freed themselves from the shackles of the invading Mughals/muslim in due time while the Bengalis were being subservient by paying their taxes and taking pride in that. Valor and bravery is fighting for your rights and injustice. 

at least we were not duffers like Prithviraj Chauhan and various others who foolishly got themselves killed and their women and children raped and enslaved, carried off as loot. Valor and bravery means nothing if you lose. As the saying goes, discretion is the better part of valor. We had discretion.Which is why our women were not 'manning' the harems of Ghazni or Bukhara. 

[vice]

1 hour ago, Muloghonto said:

We regressed because Congress was anti-bengali due to jealousy towards Bose and we were consistently shafted in the infrastructure budgets. At least we were far more self respecting than the spineless hindi-stanis who kept the vile congress going and now pretend, like the nuevo rich, johnny come lately, that they did something 'special'. Never forget you were licking the Gandhi boots while we were busy tossing them away. 

 

So when Bengal is not doing well, the blame goes to the central government.  Otherwise, it's all about singing the laurels of the Bengali people.  Most regions in India complained about being ignored/shafted by the Congress.. what's new in that, you are not alone.  Even today, regions complain about the lack of attention from the government.  The point is that Bengalis regressed at an exponential level despite being given the best of infrastructure via universities, industrial setup, courtesy the British colonization  and previously the Mughal/Muslims.  Both the British and Mughals/muslims invested heavily in the Bengal region to produce high yields.  When the Bengali overlords left, it went into shambles...part of it was the split of Bengal into India/East Pakistan but they still had a complete headstart than all of India, if not most of India.  

 

Bengalis have only themselves to blame with their regressive political ideologies.  Even now, Bengalis needed the help of the outsiders, the BJP, to rescue it from TMC and felt threatened at  the 'increasing Muslim population'/appeasement by Jihadi Didi. 

[vice]

So basically, all this delusional talk  Bengalis feeling 'superior' is nothing but nonsense. Other people and regions have done equal if not more.  As of today, the progressive states are Tamil Nadu, Gujarat, Maharashta, Karnataka and even Kerala/Punjab when combining all the various health/living conditions, poverty indices.  Bengal is no where close to these states.  

[vice]

So let’s sum up this delusional talk of Bengalis considering to be ‘superior’

 

Sati – denounced  three centuries earlier in another region i.e Punjab while the ‘Bengalis were happy getting rich by paying the most taxes to their Mughal/Muslim masters.

Nobel Prizes – Tamils and Punjabis have more yet Bengalis keep harping about Nobel Prizes.  Tamils have excelled further in Math,etc
 

Bengalis, the earliest to be colonized (by 100 years or so earlier than other regions) by the British and with it getting the infrastructure for research via universities. Sure Bengalis deserve credit for scientific discoveries in this era but a lot due to the foundation laid out by the British.

 

Prominent faculties of education in Indian history include other regions such as Nalanda in Bihar and Taxila in Punjab.

Prostrated cowardly to a dozen men on horses. One of the most cowardice acts in Indian history and this is called ‘smart’ by the resident Bengali. But hey, we the Bengalis paid the most taxes to our masters i.e the Mughals/Muslims and we were content when in fact it’s equivalent to ‘nike sweat shops’ yielding the most GDP.

 

When the British left, Bengalis fell flat on their faces despite having been given a head start via educational and industrial setup.

In summary, delirious talk of somehow being ‘superior’ and ‘shining the light’ on the rest of India while Bengalis were actually inferior and late in many aspects.

[Adi BB]

Bengal needs CG's monetary help to prosper and develop , WB needs a pro economic change desperately. It's better if they have BJP government in the state for a while ,enough of hartals and anti social events !

[Muloghonto]

10 hours ago, vice said:

So basically, all this delusional talk  Bengalis feeling 'superior' is nothing but nonsense. Other people and regions have done equal if not more.  As of today, the progressive states are Tamil Nadu, Gujarat, Maharashta, Karnataka and even Kerala/Punjab when combining all the various health/living conditions, poverty indices.  Bengal is no where close to these states.  

Depends on what time-frame you want to talk about. 1960-present times, you are correct. 1700s- 1960s, Bengal has done more than any other region of India.