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The key for Ind is probably to get Rohit Sharma out early. If he is not firing, better to get him back in the hut before he wastes tons of balls in trying to get to a rare 75+ score  :dontknow: .... If I were Dhawan, I would take singles to give more strike to Rohit vs. the new ball 

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1 minute ago, zen said:

The key for Ind is probably to get Rohit Sharma out early. If he is not firing, better to get him back in the hut before he wastes tons of balls in trying to get to a rare 75+ score  :dontknow: .... If I were Dhawan, I would take singles to give more strike to Rohit vs. the new ball 

You are making it seem like that is easy-peasy for Dhawan in good bowling conditions against new ball :phehe:

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Just now, maniac said:

You are making it seem like that is easy-peasy for Dhawan in good bowling conditions against new ball :phehe:

Relatively as Dhawan has opened in tests, a job that Rohit is not qualified enough to perform :dontknow:

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Just now, zen said:

Relatively as Dhawan has opened in tests, a job that Rohit is not qualified enough to perform :dontknow:

That’s not Rohits job in test. His secondary job is to be the xfactor. To take the score from 200-6 to 400-6 in a session or a rareguard action. His primary job is to analyze patterns and give advice that alters history and wins us series case in point the slow ball Yorker heard all over the world- Bumrah to Marsh that won us the series. Look at his 6 per tests ratio

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7 minutes ago, maniac said:

That’s not Rohits job in test. His secondary job is to be the xfactor. To take the score from 200-6 to 400-6 in a session or a rareguard action. His primary job is to analyze patterns and give advice that alters history and wins us series case in point the slow ball Yorker heard all over the world- Bumrah to Marsh that won us the series. Look at his 6 per tests ratio

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17 minutes ago, zen said:

Rohit reminds me of a tuktuking Ravi Shastri, who was replaced midway in the 1992 WC .... Needs to pull up his socks! 

Rohit,Dhoni,Middle Order,No3..all are tuk tuk players now.We are a tuk tuk team hoping to defend 270 odd on good pitches.Not gonna happen.I remember when Dhoni of a few centuries ago and Yuvi used to smash bowling for fun.No one now !

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19 minutes ago, zen said:

Rohit reminds me of a tuktuking Ravi Shastri, who was replaced midway in the 1992 WC .... Needs to pull up his socks! 

You are a number’s guy right 

 

let me throw some numbers 

 

2 6 4, 3 200, 16 6, 4 20 20 100, 155 6,

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1 minute ago, nitinbwj said:

Rohit,Dhoni,Middle Order,No3..all are tuk tuk players now.We are a tuk tuk team hoping to defend 270 odd on good pitches.Not gonna happen.I remember when Dhoni of a few centuries ago and Yuvi used to smash bowling for fun.No one now !

May become hard to challenge top sides if the likes of Rohit, Dhoni, Shankar, etc., are all in the playing 11 :fear1:

 

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4 minutes ago, maniac said:

You are a number’s guy right 

 

let me throw some numbers 

 

2 6 4, 3 200, 16 6, 4 20 20 100, 155 6,

Rohit is the worst opener for Ind in ICC/World events vs top teams:

 

Primary team India remove India from query
Opposition team Australia remove Australia from query or England remove England from query or New Zealand remove New Zealand from query or Pakistan remove Pakistan from query or South Africa remove South Africa from query or Sri Lanka remove Sri Lanka from query or West Indies remove West Indies from query
Start of match date greater than or equal to 1 Jan 1983 remove greater than or equal to 1 Jan 1983 from query
Trophy Benson & Hedges World Championship of Cricket remove Benson & Hedges World Championship of Cricket from query or ICC Champions Trophy (ICC KnockOut) remove ICC Champions Trophy (ICC KnockOut) from query or MRF World Series (Nehru Cup) remove MRF World Series (Nehru Cup) from query or World Cup remove World Cup from query
Batting position between 1 and 2 remove between 1 and 2 from query
Qualifications runs scored greater than or equal to 200 remove runs scored greater than or equal to 200 from query
Ordered by batting average (descending)
Page 1 of 1 Showing 1 - 9 of 9   First pageFirst Previous pagePrevious Next Next page Last Last page dblBakArwB.gifReturn to query menu
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Overall figures
Player Span Mat Inns NO Runs HS AveDescending BF SR 100 50 0  
S Dhawan 2013-2017 13 13 1 919 137 76.58 933 98.49 4 4 0 investigate this query
SC Ganguly 1998-2007 15 15 2 869 183 66.84 1040 83.55 4 2 1 investigate this query
SR Tendulkar 1996-2011 31 30 0 1548 141 51.60 1778 87.06 4 9 1 investigate this query
V Sehwag 2002-2011 18 18 2 678 126 42.37 670 101.19 1 5 1 investigate this query
R Lamba 1989-1989 6 6 0 231 61 38.50 354 65.25 0 3 0 investigate this query
RJ Shastri 1983-1992 9 9 1 281 63* 35.12 581 48.36 0 4 0 investigate this query
SM Gavaskar 1983-1987 9 9 1 262 103* 32.75 320 81.87 1 1 0 investigate this query
RG Sharma 2013-2017 13 13 0 414 91 31.84 546 75.82 0 4 2 investigate this query
K Srikkanth 1983-1992 29 29 2 852 93* 31.55 1208 70.52 0 7 3

 

  • Shastri played in 80s-90s, while Rohit is an era where both SR and Avg are expected to be higher 
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Just now, zen said:

Rohit is the worst opener for Ind in ICC/World events vs top teams:

 

Primary team India remove India from query
Opposition team Australia remove Australia from query or England remove England from query or New Zealand remove New Zealand from query or Pakistan remove Pakistan from query or South Africa remove South Africa from query or Sri Lanka remove Sri Lanka from query or West Indies remove West Indies from query
Start of match date greater than or equal to 1 Jan 1983 remove greater than or equal to 1 Jan 1983 from query
Trophy Benson & Hedges World Championship of Cricket remove Benson & Hedges World Championship of Cricket from query or ICC Champions Trophy (ICC KnockOut) remove ICC Champions Trophy (ICC KnockOut) from query or MRF World Series (Nehru Cup) remove MRF World Series (Nehru Cup) from query or World Cup remove World Cup from query
Batting position between 1 and 2 remove between 1 and 2 from query
Qualifications runs scored greater than or equal to 200 remove runs scored greater than or equal to 200 from query
Ordered by batting average (descending)
Page 1 of 1 Showing 1 - 9 of 9   First pageFirst Previous pagePrevious Next Next page Last Last page dblBakArwB.gifReturn to query menu
dblBakArwW.gifCleared query menu
Overall figures
Player Span Mat Inns NO Runs HS AveDescending BF SR 100 50 0  
S Dhawan 2013-2017 13 13 1 919 137 76.58 933 98.49 4 4 0 investigate this query
SC Ganguly 1998-2007 15 15 2 869 183 66.84 1040 83.55 4 2 1 investigate this query
SR Tendulkar 1996-2011 31 30 0 1548 141 51.60 1778 87.06 4 9 1 investigate this query
V Sehwag 2002-2011 18 18 2 678 126 42.37 670 101.19 1 5 1 investigate this query
R Lamba 1989-1989 6 6 0 231 61 38.50 354 65.25 0 3 0 investigate this query
RJ Shastri 1983-1992 9 9 1 281 63* 35.12 581 48.36 0 4 0 investigate this query
SM Gavaskar 1983-1987 9 9 1 262 103* 32.75 320 81.87 1 1 0 investigate this query
RG Sharma 2013-2017 13 13 0 414 91 31.84 546 75.82 0 4 2 investigate this query
K Srikkanth 1983-1992 29 29 2 852 93* 31.55 1208 70.52 0 7 3

 

  • Shastri played in 80s-90s, while Rohit is an era where both SR and Avg are expected to be higher 

Low sample set. Some great players have not had a great tournament in their first attempt, some mediocre players have legendary World Cup In their only appearance and fizzled away like that New Zealand bowler o’connor Or something. Must be a bigger ATG than Steyn right?

 

Anyway what matters is Rohit has stepped up in some of our most important games in our history.

 

WC quarterfinals, CT semifinals, the SA game in WT 20 2007 where we were about to get knocked out, the finals vs Pak that changed the course of cricket forever. So I am not too concerned about the odd failure in some obscure round robin game or 2.

 

if you have an agenda it is fine but if you follow the little details   of cricket, Rohit is your brahmastra, the shakti astra that Karna had, should keep it for Arjun but might waste it on Ghatotkatch like it happened against Bangladesh last time.

 

 

 

 

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Just now, maniac said:

Low sample set. Some great players have not had a great tournament in their first attempt, some mediocre players have legendary World Cup In their only appearance and fizzled away like that New Zealand bowler o’connor Or something. Must be a bigger ATG than Steyn right?

Only if it makes you feel better. The guy has played 3 ICC events and 10+ games, which is same as Dhawan's .... Needs to perform much better this time, which is probably his "last" ODI ICC event (that should tell you something)

 

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Anyway what matters is Rohit has stepped up in some of our most important games in our history.

 

WC quarterfinals, CT semifinals, the SA game in WT 20 2007 where we were about to get knocked out, the finals vs Pak that changed the course of cricket forever. So I am not too concerned about the odd failure in some obscure round robin game or 2.

 

if you have an agenda it is fine but if you follow the little details   of cricket, Rohit is your brahmastra, the shakti astra that Karna had, should keep it for Arjun but might waste it on Ghatotkatch like it happened against Bangladesh last time.

 

 

It only tells me that if it is a team like BD, he can play. If he would happen to meet a top team, he could fail. Now if he is doing well vs. BD and not vs. top teams, it tells me that the problem is more about the "ability" :winky:

 

A good player is expected to do well vs. most top teams. If we take SENA for e.g., his poor numbers go down even further:

 

View overall figures [change view]
Primary team India remove India from query
Opposition team Australia remove Australia from query or England remove England from query or New Zealand remove New Zealand from query or South Africa remove South Africa from query
Start of match date greater than or equal to 1 Jan 1983 remove greater than or equal to 1 Jan 1983 from query
Trophy Benson & Hedges World Championship of Cricket remove Benson & Hedges World Championship of Cricket from query or ICC Champions Trophy (ICC KnockOut) remove ICC Champions Trophy (ICC KnockOut) from query or MRF World Series (Nehru Cup) remove MRF World Series (Nehru Cup) from query or World Cup remove World Cup from query
Batting position between 1 and 2 remove between 1 and 2 from query
Qualifications runs scored greater than or equal to 100 remove runs scored greater than or equal to 100 from query
Ordered by batting average (descending)
Page 1 of 1 Showing 1 - 8 of 8   First pageFirst Previous pagePrevious Next Next page Last Last page dblBakArwB.gifReturn to query menu
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Overall figures
Player Span Mat Inns NO Runs HS AveDescending BF SR 100 50 0 4s 6s  
S Dhawan 2013-2017 5 5 0 405 137 81.00 388 104.38 2 1 0 48 6 investigate this query
SC Ganguly 1998-2003 11 11 2 596 141* 66.22 738 80.75 3 1 0 58 14 investigate this query
SR Tendulkar 1996-2011 18 17 0 855 141 50.29 937 91.24 3 4 1 98 17 investigate this query
V Sehwag 2002-2011 10 10 0 488 126 48.80 486 100.41 1 4 0 76 4 investigate this query
SM Gavaskar 1983-1987 7 7 1 241 103* 40.16 264 91.28 1 1 0 28 4 investigate this query
K Srikkanth 1983-1992 17 17 1 581 93* 36.31 758 76.64 0 5 3 76 4 investigate this query
RJ Shastri 1983-1992 6 6 0 210 57 35.00 413 50.84 0 3 0 11 0 investigate this query
RG Sharma 2013-2017 5 5 0 120 65 24.00 169 71.00 0 1 1 11 4

 

 

As mentioned, needs to pull up his socks!

 

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18 minutes ago, zen said:

Only if it makes you feel better. The guy has played 3 ICC events and 10+ games, which is same as Dhawan's .... Needs to perform much better this time, which is probably his "last" ODI ICC event (that should tell you something)

 

 

It only tells me that if it is a team like BD, he can play. If he would happen to meet a top team, he could fail. Now if he is doing well vs. BD and not vs. top teams, it tells me that the problem is more about the "ability" :winky:

 

A good player is expected to do well vs. most top teams. If we take SENA for e.g., his poor numbers go down even further:

 

View overall figures [change view]
Primary team India remove India from query
Opposition team Australia remove Australia from query or England remove England from query or New Zealand remove New Zealand from query or South Africa remove South Africa from query
Start of match date greater than or equal to 1 Jan 1983 remove greater than or equal to 1 Jan 1983 from query
Trophy Benson & Hedges World Championship of Cricket remove Benson & Hedges World Championship of Cricket from query or ICC Champions Trophy (ICC KnockOut) remove ICC Champions Trophy (ICC KnockOut) from query or MRF World Series (Nehru Cup) remove MRF World Series (Nehru Cup) from query or World Cup remove World Cup from query
Batting position between 1 and 2 remove between 1 and 2 from query
Qualifications runs scored greater than or equal to 100 remove runs scored greater than or equal to 100 from query
Ordered by batting average (descending)
Page 1 of 1 Showing 1 - 8 of 8   First pageFirst Previous pagePrevious Next Next page Last Last page dblBakArwB.gifReturn to query menu
dblBakArwW.gifCleared query menu
Overall figures
Player Span Mat Inns NO Runs HS AveDescending BF SR 100 50 0 4s 6s  
S Dhawan 2013-2017 5 5 0 405 137 81.00 388 104.38 2 1 0 48 6 investigate this query
SC Ganguly 1998-2003 11 11 2 596 141* 66.22 738 80.75 3 1 0 58 14 investigate this query
SR Tendulkar 1996-2011 18 17 0 855 141 50.29 937 91.24 3 4 1 98 17 investigate this query
V Sehwag 2002-2011 10 10 0 488 126 48.80 486 100.41 1 4 0 76 4 investigate this query
SM Gavaskar 1983-1987 7 7 1 241 103* 40.16 264 91.28 1 1 0 28 4 investigate this query
K Srikkanth 1983-1992 17 17 1 581 93* 36.31 758 76.64 0 5 3 76 4 investigate this query
RJ Shastri 1983-1992 6 6 0 210 57 35.00 413 50.84 0 3 0 11 0 investigate this query
RG Sharma 2013-2017 5 5 0 120 65 24.00 169 71.00 0 1 1 11 4

 

 

As mentioned, needs to pull up his socks!

 

I don’t get this obsession with white countries. We were on the verge of a humiliating knock out against Bangladesh and it was a one man effort when everyone failed. 

 

His solidity and sacrificing numbers let other batsman play with freedom because they know a Set Rohit is “make your opposition wet”Rohit.

 

Rohit has the unenviable role of being the glue that holds the team together. Also remember he is constantly thinking and getting a measure to help the bowlers out

 

He is an anomaly that cannot be measured in numbers. understanding numbers is not enough, you need to understand cricket.

 

Modi won by a lakhs of votes in varnasi but Smriti Irani’s close victory over Rahul Gandhi was way more important. You need to

understand politics to know that same way you need to understand Rohits impact to understand his value.

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5 minutes ago, maniac said:

I don’t get this obsession with white countries. We were on the verge of a humiliating knock out against Bangladesh and it was a one man effort when everyone failed. 

 

Coming to cricket, it is not about white or brown or black countries, but the fact that those countries mentioned are among the top cricket teams .... It is good to perform vs. BD, which is only 1 team among many. Have to go well vs. top teams as well. The issue is when you perform only against relatively weak teams

 

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His solidity and sacrificing numbers let other batsman play with freedom because they know a Set Rohit is “make your opposition wet”Rohit.

 

Rohit has the unenviable role of being the glue that holds the team together. Also remember he is constantly thinking and getting a measure to help the bowlers out

 

He is an anomaly that cannot be measured in numbers. understanding numbers is not enough, you need to understand cricket.

 

Modi won by a lakhs of votes in varnasi but Smriti Irani’s close victory over Rahul Gandhi was way more important. You need to

understand politics to know that same way you need to understand Rohits impact to understand his value.

 

I would be surprised if you actually believe what you wrote above. For cricket fans who put the team first, there is no doubt that Rohit needs to pull up his socks. He has the opportunity here. If he does well, good. If not, he should be replaced

 

 

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1 minute ago, zen said:

Coming to cricket, it is not about white or brown or black countries, but the fact that those countries mentioned are among the top cricket teams .... It is good to perform vs. BD, which is only 1 team among many. Have to go well vs. top teams as well. The issue is when you perform only against relatively weak teams

 

I would be surprised if you actually believe what you wrote above. For cricket fans who put the team first, there is no doubt that Rohit needs to pull up his socks. He has the opportunity here. If he does well, good. If not, he should be replaced

 

 

That goes without saying for anyone :winky:  so believe in skipping the obvious. However defending the legacy and blood,sweat and tears of a guy who has out India in the map

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