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PARs - Pandya vs Stokes vs Russell vs Stoinis - Performance tab for WC 2019

Who will perform the best in the WC?  

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  1. 1. Who will perform the best in the WC?

    • Hardik Pandya
    • Ben Stokes
    • Andre Russell
    • Marcus Stoinis
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  • Poll closed on 07/20/2019 at 10:59 PM

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Inspired by @Gollum 's and@SK_IH's thread

 

Currently the leading Pace-bowling All-rounders (PARs) who are aggressive in their batting approach and seems top teams want to have in the team to provide the an added flexibility in the field. 

 

keep updated stats of their bowling and batting performances

 

Also will include other PARs if they perform too, e.g. Holder, Grandhomme, Morris, Thisara, Phelukwayo

 

As of 6 June - end of group phase WC 2019

  Player Mat Runs HS Bat Av 100 SR Wkts Bowl Av 5 Ave Diff
1 BA Stokes (ENG) 9 381 89 54.42 0 90.93 7 29.14 0 25.28
2 JDS Neesham (NZ) 8 201 97* 40.2 0 85.64 11 18.18 1 22.01
3 AL Phehlukwayo (SA) 9 133 46* 33.25 0 84.31 11 30.54 0 2.7
4 Soumya Sarkar (BDESH) 8 166 42 20.75 0 106.73 4 22.75 0 -1.99
5 CR Brathwaite (WI) 8 154 101 30.8 1 104.76 9 35.88 0 -5.08
6 C de Grandhomme (NZ) 8 158 64 26.33 0 113.13 5 34.8 0 -8.46
7 HH Pandya (INDIA) 8 194 48 32.33 0 142 9 43.55 0 -11.22
8 JO Holder (WI) 9 170 51 24.28 0 103.12 8 42.87 0 -18.58
9 CR Woakes (ENG) 9 132 40 18.85 0 93.79 10 38.9 0 -20.04
10 Gulbadin Naib (AFG) 9 194 47 21.55 0 77.33 9 46.66 0 -25.11

 

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31 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

what about jason holder

He is under others,

I just selected the famous four, not necessarily best four, 

as good as Holder he does seem to get the limelight he deserves 

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On 6/14/2019 at 8:56 AM, Ankit_sharma03 said:

Russell has been brainless with bat twice now when his team needed him

maybe that's why he's a T20 league player not a proper int'l cricketer.

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nearly half-way through the WC (17 June):

 

  Player Mat Runs HS Bat Av SR 100 Wkts Bowl Av 5 Ave Diff
1 BA Stokes (ENG) 4 118 89 39.33 107.27 0 5 20.6 0 18.73
2 NM Coulter-Nile (AUS) 4 98 92 32.66 136.11 0 2 111 0 -78.33
3 JO Holder (WI) 5 93 51 31 113.41 0 4 40.75 0 -9.74
4 CR Woakes (ENG) 4 92 40 30.66 102.22 0 4 44.5 0 -13.83
5 HH Pandya (INDIA) 3 89 48 44.5 167.92 0 2 71.5 0 -26.99
6 AL Phehlukwayo (SA) 5 83 34 27.66 71.55 0 6 25.66 0 2
7 Wahab Riaz (PAK) 4 67 45 22.33 128.84 0 5 47.4 0 -25.06
8 Gulbadin Naib (AFG) 4 63 31 15.75 78.75 0 2 77 0 -61.24
9 K Rabada (SA) 5 55 31* 55 87.3 0 5 39.6 0 15.4
10 CH Morris (SA) 4 52 42 26 118.18 0 6 20.33 0 5.66
  AD Russell (WI) 4 36 21 12 124.13 0 5 20.2 0 -8.1
  MP Stoinis (AUS) 3 19 19 9.5 76 0 4 29.25 0 -19.74

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no real stand out AR, Stokes leading the way

Pandu needs to control his bowling average, either take more wickets or be more economical

Russel has been a major flop, playing some of the most reckless cricket

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On 5/30/2019 at 3:47 PM, chewy said:

 

As of 17 June - half through WC 2019

  Player Mat Runs HS Bat Av SR 100 Wkts Bowl Av 5 Ave Diff
1 BA Stokes (ENG) 4 118 89 39.33 107.27 0 5 20.6 0 18.73
2 NM Coulter-Nile (AUS) 4 98 92 32.66 136.11 0 2 111 0 -78.33
3 JO Holder (WI) 5 93 51 31 113.41 0 4 40.75 0 -9.74
4 CR Woakes (ENG) 4 92 40 30.66 102.22 0 4 44.5 0 -13.83
5 HH Pandya (INDIA) 3 89 48 44.5 167.92 0 2 71.5 0 -26.99
6 AL Phehlukwayo (SA) 5 83 34 27.66 71.55 0 6 25.66 0 2
7 Wahab Riaz (PAK) 4 67 45 22.33 128.84 0 5 47.4 0 -25.06
8 Gulbadin Naib (AFG) 4 63 31 15.75 78.75 0 2 77 0 -61.24
9 K Rabada (SA) 5 55 31* 55 87.3 0 5 39.6 0 15.4
10 CH Morris (SA) 4 52 42 26 118.18 0 6 20.33 0 5.66
  AD Russell (WI) 4 36 21 12 124.13 0 5 20.2 0 -8.1
  MP Stoinis (AUS) 3 19 19 9.5 76 0 4 29.25 0 -19.74

Stokes and NCL played well in one inning. Holder has been good with the bat but isn’t bowling well for a leading bowler in his side. Russell (iirc) has been good with the ball.

 

Woakes (iirc) and Pandya are doing relatively better in terms of consistent impact

 

So far, Pandya has been very impactful for Ind. Has played good knocks in all 3 innings (SR 168!). Against Aus, changed the momentum. His bowling is a plus where he has made an impact too with 2 wkts in 2 balls vs. Pak

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34 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

Pandya has to give up this "variation" crap that he attempts every ball. He bowled grand total of one good ball against Pakistan.

He is a half-decent bowler when he bowls good length now.  Has a decent cutter and knuckleball too.  But probably going short and tight to greenbro batsman was the team plan.  Dismissals of Malik and Hafeez prove it out.  Malik was bit late on the ball, he's never comfortable on rising deliveries.  Hafeez came out with a mind to counterattack, and couldn't resist the mis-executed yorker.  

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13 minutes ago, zen said:

Stokes and NCL played well in one inning. Holder has been good with the bat but isn’t bowling well for a leading bowler in his side. Russell (iirc) has been good with the ball.

 

Woakes (iirc) and Pandya are doing relatively better in terms of consistent impact

 

So far, Pandya has been very impactful for Ind. Has played good knocks in all 3 innings (SR 168!). Against Aus, changed the momentum. His bowling is a plus where he has made an impact too with 2 wkts in 2 balls vs. Pak

You are out-maniac-ing baba with this stuff you know that right?

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On 5/30/2019 at 1:17 AM, chewy said:

Inspired by @Gollum 's and@SK_IH's thread

 

Currently the leading Pace-bowling All-rounders (PARs) who are aggressive in their batting approach and seems top teams want to have in the team to provide the an added flexibility in the field. 

 

keep updated stats of their bowling and batting performances

 

Also will include other PARs if they perform too, e.g. Holder, Grandhomme, Morris, Thisara, Phelukwayo

 

As of 17 June - half through WC 2019

  Player Mat Runs HS Bat Av SR 100 Wkts Bowl Av 5 Ave Diff
1 BA Stokes (ENG) 4 118 89 39.33 107.27 0 5 20.6 0 18.73
2 NM Coulter-Nile (AUS) 4 98 92 32.66 136.11 0 2 111 0 -78.33
3 JO Holder (WI) 5 93 51 31 113.41 0 4 40.75 0 -9.74
4 CR Woakes (ENG) 4 92 40 30.66 102.22 0 4 44.5 0 -13.83
5 HH Pandya (INDIA) 3 89 48 44.5 167.92 0 2 71.5 0 -26.99
6 AL Phehlukwayo (SA) 5 83 34 27.66 71.55 0 6 25.66 0 2
7 Wahab Riaz (PAK) 4 67 45 22.33 128.84 0 5 47.4 0 -25.06
8 Gulbadin Naib (AFG) 4 63 31 15.75 78.75 0 2 77 0 -61.24
9 K Rabada (SA) 5 55 31* 55 87.3 0 5 39.6 0 15.4
10 CH Morris (SA) 4 52 42 26 118.18 0 6 20.33 0 5.66
  AD Russell (WI) 4 36 21 12 124.13 0 5 20.2 0 -8.1
  MP Stoinis (AUS) 3 19 19 9.5 76 0 4 29.25 0 -19.74

Fair rankings these. NCN is injured so he might fall in the ranks.

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7 minutes ago, Straight Drive said:

Fair rankings these. NCN is injured so he might fall in the ranks.

it appears to be a simple list based on number of runs scored .... so player x with 100 runs in 4 matches is listed above player y with 99 runs 3 matches 

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Neesham so far best based on Aver Diff

Stokes leading runs chart

Morris with wickets

Pandya with SR 

 

flops - Stoinis, Russel, to an extent Holder

 

  Player
Mat
Runs HS Bat Av SR Wkts Bowl Av Ct Ave Diff
1 JDS Neesham (NZ) 6 173 97* 57.66 85.64 7 18.71 2 38.95
2 BA Stokes (ENG) 7 291 89 58.2 90.93 6 26.66 3 31.53
3 C de Grandhomme (NZ) 6 155 64 38.75 113.13 5 26.8 2 11.95
4 CH Morris (SA) 7 74 42 24.66 121.31 12 23.16 2 1.5
5 AL Phehlukwayo (SA) 8 129 46* 32.25 84.31 9 34.88 1 -2.63
6 CR Brathwaite (WI) 6 132 101 33 104.76 5 41.4 1 -8.39
7 HH Pandya (INDIA) 5 142 48 35.5 142 5 44.4 1 -8.89
8 Gulbadin Naib (AFG) 7 174 47 24.85 77.33 9 36.55 1 -11.69
9 MP Stoinis (AUS) 5 44 19 14.66 86.27 7 28.57 2 -13.9
10 CR Woakes (ENG) 7 121 40 24.2 93.79 7 41 6 -16.79
11 JO Holder (WI) 7 99 51 19.8 103.12 6 39.66 3 -19.86

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have to say, Pandya's batting has looked good, if he can come in around 30 over and allow to settle, can easily score big

all his dismissals have been when attacking the ball, looks in good form

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have to say, Pandya's batting has looked good, if he can come in around 30 over and allow to settle, can easily score big

all his dismissals have been when attacking the ball, looks in good form

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1 minute ago, chewy said:

have to say, Pandya's batting has looked good, if he can come in around 30 over and allow to settle, can easily score big

all his dismissals have been when attacking the ball, looks in good form

He can't play slow ball. He just doesn't know how to adjust the timing against slower ball. I think most of his dismissals were against slow ball.

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group phase finished:

surprise package, despite all the insults he gets is Petlaykayo, joint highest wicket taker, 11 wickets

Stokes leading run scorer, primarily comes in a No.5 where he is expected to play long innings, not been explosive though

Pandu has been explosive with bat (142 SR!), and takes wickets, but always giving away 50 runs plus every match.

 

Aus have no pace all-rounder in the Top 10. 

Soumya Sarkar should bowl more for Bangladesh, 

 

  Player Mat Runs HS Bat Av 100 SR Wkts Bowl Av 5 Ave Diff
1 BA Stokes (ENG) 9 381 89 54.42 0 90.93 7 29.14 0 25.28
2 JDS Neesham (NZ) 8 201 97* 40.2 0 85.64 11 18.18 1 22.01
3 AL Phehlukwayo (SA) 9 133 46* 33.25 0 84.31 11 30.54 0 2.7
4 Soumya Sarkar (BDESH) 8 166 42 20.75 0 106.73 4 22.75 0 -1.99
5 CR Brathwaite (WI) 8 154 101 30.8 1 104.76 9 35.88 0 -5.08
6 C de Grandhomme (NZ) 8 158 64 26.33 0 113.13 5 34.8 0 -8.46
7 HH Pandya (INDIA) 8 194 48 32.33 0 142 9 43.55 0 -11.22
8 JO Holder (WI) 9 170 51 24.28 0 103.12 8 42.87 0 -18.58
9 CR Woakes (ENG) 9 132 40 18.85 0 93.79 10 38.9 0 -20.04
10 Gulbadin Naib (AFG) 9 194 47 21.55 0 77.33 9 46.66 0 -25.11

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