Ankit_sharma03 Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 1. Australia Huge Diff Post Starc n cummins . Coulter nile n Zampa doesnt look that threatening post starc n cummins spell. So teams can plan to play out starc smartly and then target zampa, NCN, stonis , maxwel 2. West indies Carlos who doesnt add much as bowler or batsman Spin bowling dept - nurse.....pretty useless Extras - they have pace n bounce but that also comes with extras which can be diff in close games 3. England Post archer the bowling isnt that threatening specially on Pattas 4. Pakistan short pitch bowling inconsistency which can be costly when only 4 teams will go forward Behind on NRR 5. New Zealand Lacks killer instict collapse under presssure. Yesterday they got of jail against Bangladesh but Had it been India or AUS they wud have not let it go easily 6. South africa Injuries Form of every batsman One man bowling attack mentally week No point talking about SL n Afghanistan . India have just played one game so cant say much AuxiliA, Frustrated, diehardpacer and 1 other 4 Link to comment
maniac Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 ^Bangladesh- lack of game-changing bowlers in the side Ankit_sharma03 1 Link to comment
Nikola Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 Indian bowling depends too much on bumrah. Yes chahal got wicket but i don't think he will be that effective against other sides. You can say other teams will play bumrah's overs safely. Kuldeep already not at his best. Chahal isn't unplayable. Bhuvi, Hardik can easily be smacked. Wall2018 and diehardpacer 1 1 Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 West Indies - playing T20 cricket in one dayers chewy 1 Link to comment
Cricketics Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 10 minutes ago, Nikola said: Indian bowling depends too much on bumrah. Yes chahal got wicket but i don't think he will be that effective against other sides. You can say other teams will play bumrah's overs safely. Kuldeep already not at his best. Chahal isn't unplayable. Bhuvi, Hardik can easily be smacked. I agree on Chahal. He can be a weak link at times. Chahal does well on helpful tracks but he has failed miserably on flat tracks where its hard to hide him on the field and he gets taken to cleaners big time. We have seen Guptill-lookalike taking him to cleaners in South Africa when Chahal could not contain or take wicket and also in many games. I hope Chahal clicks but when player is attacking he gets intimidated easily. Hopefully he can develop some more deliveries to outsmart the batsman on a flat track who will look to attack him anyhow. There in lies a bonus for him that he always has a chance of a wicket since batsman is going to attack him.He just needs to be a bit more smart when such a moment arise again. Link to comment
Cricketics Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 1 hour ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: 1. Australia Huge Diff Post Starc n cummins . Coulter nile n Zampa doesnt look that threatening post starc n cummins spell. So teams can plan to play out starc smartly and then target zampa, NCN, stonis , maxwel Starc needs to be attacked or someone whom players need to approach and play positively and lot of teams can score big runs against Australia. Same with Cummins. Togther, they both make a handy duo who can win Australia the cup, but there in lies the opportunity for many teams to not give them any wicket and bat agains their ego and wait for the bowling changes. Finch can be in real trouble that way and might be put to test to pick and chose the bowlers to bring into attack. Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted June 6, 2019 Author Share Posted June 6, 2019 6 minutes ago, Cricketics said: Starc needs to be attacked or someone whom players need to approach and play positively and lot of teams can score big runs against Australia. Same with Cummins. Togther, they both make a handy duo who can win Australia the cup, but there in lies the opportunity for many teams to not give them any wicket and bat agains their ego and wait for the bowling changes. Finch can be in real trouble that way and might be put to test to pick and chose the bowlers to bring into attack. Starc needs to be attacked by the player who can and acc to situation For eg- someone like Rohit can as he has played him well over the years but not someone like pandya, jadhav, russell as they come in situation where 1 wkt down and team is in trouble. Starc has gr8 yorker n short one so these players need to be more careful. Cummins can be attacked as his pace is less then starc . Better play keep rotating strike against starc and he will give u loose balls . If u attack other 3-4 bowlers the score wud be big enough as 350-400 arent happening nyways . Link to comment
Vilander Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 41 minutes ago, Nikola said: es chahal got wicket but i don't think he will be that effective against other sides. why ? i think he will screw Aus a lot. Eng might play him well. Link to comment
Vilander Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 Indian attack is the most balanced IMO - outside of the 5th bowler change the skills vis-a-vis time of the play is pretty even ( with Bumrah in Starc/Cummins/Rabada level obviously but Bhuvi or Shami and kulcha are pretty good). Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 33 minutes ago, Cricketics said: I agree on Chahal. He can be a weak link at times. Chahal does well on helpful tracks but he has failed miserably on flat tracks where its hard to hide him on the field and he gets taken to cleaners big time. We have seen Guptill-lookalike taking him to cleaners in South Africa when Chahal could not contain or take wicket and also in many games. I hope Chahal clicks but when player is attacking he gets intimidated easily. Hopefully he can develop some more deliveries to outsmart the batsman on a flat track who will look to attack him anyhow. There in lies a bonus for him that he always has a chance of a wicket since batsman is going to attack him.He just needs to be a bit more smart when such a moment arise again. Chahal has a technique these days. He did well in chinna ground this year IPL. What Chahal does these days he targets the leg stump not giving any room to free their arms. FOr a rightie ball always comes in an leaves away. They can still line him up and attack. In Australia he bowled beautifully. Some of these grounds are not small. You need to hit really well to clear the boundary. Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 3 minutes ago, Vilander said: Indian attack is the most balanced IMO - outside of the 5th bowler change the skills vis-a-vis time of the play is pretty even ( with Bumrah in Starc/Cummins/Rabada level obviously but Bhuvi or Shami and kulcha are pretty good). Most definitely. We may have bad days. But we are not the team that will have to shut the shop and play defensive after first spell. We can attack right through 50 overs. Link to comment
Vilander Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 10 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: Most definitely. We may have bad days. But we are not the team that will have to shut the shop and play defensive after first spell. We can attack right through 50 overs. was expecting much more from Pandya in England - disappointing so far. Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 7 minutes ago, Vilander said: was expecting much more from Pandya in England - disappointing so far. Since his injury he is not quiet the same. I will be happy if he can nick a wicket or two here to support others. Link to comment
Cricketics Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 32 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: Chahal has a technique these days. He did well in chinna ground this year IPL. What Chahal does these days he targets the leg stump not giving any room to free their arms. FOr a rightie ball always comes in an leaves away. They can still line him up and attack. In Australia he bowled beautifully. Some of these grounds are not small. You need to hit really well to clear the boundary. Hoping he can do similar thing what you are trying to say. Time will decide. In t20, the batsmen doesn't have much time and hence attack more, in 50 overs batsmen can pick and chose which ball to hit since there is less pressure of run are in this format. Agree about the ground size. They are not small like the ones in NZ, you still got to clear it. Link to comment
Suhaan Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 We can add more potency to our attack by adding Shami in place of Bhuvi,but then we are the only team in this competition which has a genuine tail Bhuvi(although i don't think he has that batting ability for odis)is the only one in lower middle order who can score few runs but only at the expense of blunt and mediocre bowling.... Link to comment
Haarkarjeetgaye Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 (edited) I did not read through all the posts. NZ , Afghanistan and SL - I have not followed much. India - No 4 slot unsettled, no 6 ( or 7, Jadhav) is a dilemma still, One Pacer short in the squad Bangladesh - No good no 3. Shakib at best is 4. Lack of Quality spinner England - The name and history in WC is the biggest weakness Australia - 3 openers in playing 11 making Usman not as effective. Marcus Stoinis is not playing up to potential WI - Lack of quality spinner. No solid batsman who can pull them out of disasters like 20 for 3 Pak - Fragile batting after Babar. Lack of Quality spinner. Clueless Captain SA - too many weaknesses. Rabada is the only strength Edited June 7, 2019 by Haarkarjeetgaye Link to comment
Khota Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 Good effort by the Op but sample size is too small (N=1) for some cases. Link to comment
ViruDilSeKhelo Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 (edited) Taklu OP doesn't mention that without Jaddu at number 8 our batting is light. The original 3D player. Lords test, smacking Anderson, demolishing Eng with big hits in tests in India too. Gun aggressive player at Rajkot with triple centuries. My team for Aus game: Rohit, Gabbar, Kohli, Rahul, Dhoni (kaptan/wkt), Jhadav, Pandya, Jaddu, Shami, Chahal, Bumrah BK is cannon fodder in general in ODIS and kuldeep is mentally disintegrated and Aus demolished him last time. Also an average game against SA and of course he can't bat though somehow he has a FC 100 maybe in gully cricket. Phielding is average at best. Another idea I had is trial an extra batsman in some easier game and drop one bowler. Jhadav can give us 10 overs mixed with Shankar, bring them out when a wicket falls. Dinesh Mongia days. Rohit, Gabbar, Kohli, Rahul, MAHI, Jhadav, Kartick/Shankar, Pandya, Chahal, Shami, Bumrah Edited June 7, 2019 by ViruDilSeKhelo Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted June 9, 2019 Author Share Posted June 9, 2019 On 6/6/2019 at 11:54 PM, Ankit_sharma03 said: 1. Australia Huge Diff Post Starc n cummins . Coulter nile n Zampa doesnt look that threatening post starc n cummins spell. So teams can plan to play out starc smartly and then target zampa, NCN, stonis , maxwel To Add cummins can be hit for runs at death as well On 6/6/2019 at 11:54 PM, Ankit_sharma03 said: 3. England Post archer the bowling isnt that threatening specially on Pattas Commies were saying Adil rashid has shoulder issues and is having continuous treatment which is also affecting his googly and neither he is in form. So teams can target him knowing he wont bowl much of googly Link to comment
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