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3 hours ago, maniac said:

To be honest let us not give this a religious angle and move  away from what is the most despicable act a human can commit. Hurt a child this way. Once you bring religious angle to this this shifts attention from the actual issue and culprits.

When Asifa tragedy happened the whole left circle indulged in vicious attack on an entire community, guilt tripping people totally unrelated to the crime. All that Devistan, Hindustan, Hindu, Ram crap..all over the acts of a few monsters? They also misrepresented news, lied about RWers supporting the rapists. When Dogras protested over JK police excesses against 100s of their community members including forced exodus, MSM lied that they were protesting in favor of the rapists. The protest rallies by Hindu groups had nothing to do with Asifa but allegations/concerns over planned demographic shift from Jammu...and there were many Hurriyat linked people who jumped on the bandwagon and used the tragic incident to further their sinister designs.

 

The rape/murder was exaggerated, communalized, made a global issue to attract sympathy for Kashmir (Lagarde shamed Modi and India in an IMF meeting), helping Pakistanis spread more bile about us and who knows motivate another batch of youth to take arms against the Indian state. It was a criminal incident and there should have been a full stop there. Investigate the case on its merits and hang the monsters...who cares, none of us would bat an eyelid. Same week when this case exploded to capture limelight there were 4 incidents of rape/murder of Hindu girls by Muslims in Bengal and Assam (simple Google search), one in Assam had pure communal motives where the minor victim was burnt to death...did they elicit any sympathy or response? We were played in Kathua...by Pak, Pak proxies, Kashmiris, libtards etc for a larger motive inimical to the nation and its majority religion.  

 

I don't give a damn about religion here, but have to fight fire with fire. And nothing to stop me from highlighting the double standards and agenda of a section of our citizens. 

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Off topic but had to make these points.

 

Kathua rape happened in January 2018, didn't make national news initially.

 

Then JK police arrested 100s of Jammu Dogras, tortured many in custody, threats to drive them out of Jammu by Hurriyat and extremists. So a protest rally by Dogras against this act of aggression by Mehbooba and police. 

 

Somewhere in mid April suddenly this became national news, 3 months post the rape/death !!!! Hizb and LeT co-ordinated and sent threatening messages about cleaning the state of outsiders. All that devisthan, mandir, saffron nonsense started and it became a global issue.

 

Hindu, NDTV, Scroll, NH, Wire, all the libtard news sources named the victim and shared her photograph widely, totally illegal. One of the suspects was a minor and his image was on 'The Hindu' page one, sharing all details about his residence, college, nickname etc. Why did they endanger his life? Did they do the same during Nirbhaya case? Did they name the minor rapist (most brutal)? Have they done the same in other high profile rape cases? Delhi HC fined them and they apologized, but damage was done. 

 

Connect the dots. 

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12 hours ago, Gollum said:

When Asifa tragedy happened the whole left circle indulged in vicious attack on an entire community, guilt tripping people totally unrelated to the crime. All that Devistan, Hindustan, Hindu, Ram crap..all over the acts of a few monsters? They also misrepresented news, lied about RWers supporting the rapists. When Dogras protested over JK police excesses against 100s of their community members including forced exodus, MSM lied that they were protesting in favor of the rapists. The protest rallies by Hindu groups had nothing to do with Asifa but allegations/concerns over planned demographic shift from Jammu...and there were many Hurriyat linked people who jumped on the bandwagon and used the tragic incident to further their sinister designs.

 

The rape/murder was exaggerated, communalized, made a global issue to attract sympathy for Kashmir (Lagarde shamed Modi and India in an IMF meeting), helping Pakistanis spread more bile about us and who knows motivate another batch of youth to take arms against the Indian state. It was a criminal incident and there should have been a full stop there. Investigate the case on its merits and hang the monsters...who cares, none of us would bat an eyelid. Same week when this case exploded to capture limelight there were 4 incidents of rape/murder of Hindu girls by Muslims in Bengal and Assam (simple Google search), one in Assam had pure communal motives where the minor victim was burnt to death...did they elicit any sympathy or response? We were played in Kathua...by Pak, Pak proxies, Kashmiris, libtards etc for a larger motive inimical to the nation and its majority religion.  

 

I don't give a damn about religion here, but have to fight fire with fire. And nothing to stop me from highlighting the double standards and agenda of a section of our citizens. 

I understand all that. However the point is we should not be 2 different sides of the same coin.

 

There are better topics or better ways to point out and counter the lib loons.

 

Using a horrific incident to push a point doesn’t sound right. 

 

My personal view is this is not an incident that needs to be highlighted for the “in your face moron” point scoring. 

 

Just this viewpoint alone makes what the libtards did with the Asifa case that much more terrible.

 

Anyway this is my thinking and If you have a different view point, I am not going to argue for or against it.

 

 

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People are here furious upon this incident. 

 

Please allow me the liberty to put my thoughts OPENLY. These are my observations and feelings, which may be correct or may be wrong. 

 

I feel that Human Nature is playing a role in sex related crimes.  It always did. A lot of killings were made in order to get the women of other groups in the stone age. This continued in the neolithic era too. 

 

Males are getting their puberty at 14. And they do get frustrated if their natural desire is not fulfilled. Is it a fact, or could we deny it? 

 

This frustration leads the young boys to indulge in masturbating (many times a weak), or watching porno films today (starting at the age of 16-17 years). I believe, if social/religious pressure is not present, and they find the consenting girls/women, then almost all of them will indulge in sexual activity in this age. 

 

Another part of this study is this that Mullahs in Pakistani Madaris are found to be indulged in Child Rape at huge huge rate. 

You will not be able to see women outside in many Pushtoon areas. Result is huge huge rate of Pashtoons indulged in Bacha Bazi (child rape or gay activities). 

Christian Pastors don't marry, but they are also involved hugely in child rape. 

 

In Pakistan, people used to guard the graves of the young dead girls/women for several nights, while people in Pakistan have become so much frustrated that they even started raping the dead bodies in graveyards in the nights. 

 

After looking all this situation, I feel that perhaps we have to make sex more open in our societies, even for boy and girls at the age of 16. Perhaps this could help to come over a lot of frustration and may help in reducing the sexual harassment and sexual crimes. 

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6 minutes ago, Alam_dar said:

People are here furious upon this incident. 

 

Please allow me the liberty to put my thoughts OPENLY. These are my observations and feelings, which may be correct or may be wrong. 

 

I feel that Human Nature is playing a role in sex related crimes.  It always did. A lot of killings were made in order to get the women of other groups in the stone age. This continued in the neolithic era too. 

 

Males are getting their puberty at 14. And they do get frustrated if their natural desire is not fulfilled. Is it a fact, or could we deny it? 

 

This frustration leads the young boys to indulge in masturbating (many times a weak), or watching porno films today (starting at the age of 16-17 years). I believe, if social/religious pressure is not present, and they find the consenting girls/women, then almost all of them will indulge in sexual activity in this age. 

 

Another part of this study is this that Mullahs in Pakistani Madaris are found to be indulged in Child Rape at huge huge rate. 

You will not be able to see women outside in many Pushtoon areas. Result is huge huge rate of Pashtoons indulged in Bacha Bazi (child rape or gay activities). 

Christian Pastors don't marry, but they are also involved hugely in child rape. 

 

In Pakistan, people used to guard the graves of the young dead girls/women for several nights, while people in Pakistan have become so much frustrated that they even started raping the dead bodies in graveyards in the nights. 

 

After looking all this situation, I feel that perhaps we have to make sex more open in our societies, even for boy and girls at the age of 16. Perhaps this could help to come over a lot of frustration and may help in reducing the sexual harassment and sexual crimes. 

So, if a person is sexually frustrated he will rape a 3 year old? Sex had nothing to do with this. The person is probably a psychopath and a threat to society. First of all rape is much more than just sexual desire, it is about power and control over a person, one gets a twisted mindset/pleasure when one rapes. If it was just sexual desires, than that can be solved by just getting a girlfriend or having sex with a prostitute. Sexual desire is not a justification nor an incidence of rape.

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19 minutes ago, I6MTW said:

So, if a person is sexually frustrated he will rape a 3 year old? Sex had nothing to do with this. The person is probably a psychopath and a threat to society. First of all rape is much more than just sexual desire, it is about power and control over a person, one gets a twisted mindset/pleasure when one rapes. If it was just sexual desires, than that can be solved by just getting a girlfriend or having sex with a prostitute. Sexual desire is not a justification nor an incidence of rape.

What you stated above about difference in sex and rape, it may be correct. 

But let me also add that there exists other point of view too, which differs from this. 

 

According to this other view, in Human Nature, the Sex and the Power are very much linked to each other. Human history is full of stories where power was used for obtaining the women. 

 

In animal Kingdom too, males are using excessive power in order to get their sexual desired fulfilled. In other words, 100% males of many species could be called psychopaths/rapists. 

 

When we look at ground realities (which I mentioned above about rape of Children in Madaris, Churches, Pashtoon areas ...) then it is evident that indeed if sexual desires are fulfilled, then there is LESS chance of Frustration, which could ultimately lead to a society with less risk of sexual crimes. 

 

Getting 100% sexual criminal free society is impossible. Religion and Social pressure will fail against the Frustrations as we see Muslim Mullahs and Christian Pastors are involved in these child rapes. Making society open to sex at age of 16, in my opinion,  could only be one of important step to minimize the frustration and to minimize the risks of sex related crimes. 

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https://www.opindia.com/2019/06/aligarh-3-year-old-twinkle-brutally-murdered-by-zahid-over-loan-of-rs-10000/?utm_source=onesignal&utm_medium=push

In another deplorable incident, a man named Zahid brutally choked a minor girl, Twinkle Sharma, resident of Tappal, Aligarh district, Uttar Pradesh, to death, over an argument with her family regarding a small loan amount, reportsAmar Ujala.

Zahid along with his friend Aslam has been arrested Tuesday after the Aligarh police recovered baby Twinkle body from a dumping ground nearby on June 2, three days after Twinkle went missing from her house.

Zahid had brutally choked Twinkle with a dupatta (scarf) and hid the body in his house in a straw bag. After three days when the corpse started emitting a foul smell, Zahid threw Twinkle in a pile of trash. Twinkle’s body was completely decomposed with her eyes gouged out.

 

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1 hour ago, vayuu1 said:

Ya you are right

 

 

let's deny everything and play secular -secular, honestly I am tired of this bullshyte that is going on in the name of secularism.

These are two different acts. First isn't religion related, second might be.

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https://swarajyamag.com/insta/communal-tension-in-up-village-after-men-ransack-temple-for-doing-bhajan-kirtan-at-the-time-of-namaz

In Bisalpur (Pilibhit), Rauhaniya village, communal tensions soared high on Tuesday when men from a particular community ransacked a Hindu temple over Bhajan-Kirtan being played on loudspeakers, reports Jagran.

The men entered the temple situated at the outskirts of the village around 9 pm, and tried to stop the ongoing Bhajan-Kirtan that happens every evening. They said that the Eid was next day and it was time for the Namaz. People participating in the temple ceremonies argued that the Namaz was broadcast inside the village while the temple is situated outside. This led to an altercation between the two groups.

The men broke the wire of the loudspeaker, destroyed the religious calender at the place and threw away the photos of the deities. The police arrived at the site and took the situation under control.

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