How stupid is it to not replace injured players?

[Malcolm Merlyn]

India currently has two injured players in the squad. Both of them will be out till atleast the match vs England.

 

Now the team management isnt getting the replacements in because they believe that the players will be fit for the 30th June match.

 

The stupidity of this thinking is astonishing.

 

Shikhar Dhawan has a fractured thumb. His hand is in a cast. So he wont be holding the bat for sometime. It will require intense exercise to get that immobile hand into full strength. After that he will need to get practice to get in the groove. Then on 30th June he will face Archer and Wood bowling at 90mph plus and targetting him with the short ball. Till then a certain Vijay Shankar who showed his worthlessness with the bat yesterday will hog the number 4 slot.

 

Now if Dhawan fails to get fit, Pant will be in the team. He will be in the team right near the knockouts, with no match practice since the IPL.

 

Common Sense would have been to get Pant in and give him a go againist the likes of Afghanistan, and get him in the groove.

 

Now coming to the second one,

 

Bhuvi, he has a hamstring injury. Kohli said he will be out for 3 games. So he will likely miss the England match as well. God forbids if Shami or Bumrah breaks down on the eve of a match we dont have anyone who has the required match fitness. There are chances that they may rush a unfit Bhuvi back like they did in 2018 and sideline him for long.

 

Again Common sense says that Bhuvi should have been replaced by Saini and given a match vs Afghans. Rest Bumrah. But no. Our team management and its poor skills on how to manage injuries again shines through.

 

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[philcric]

The only thing in defence of TM is that once a player is replaced, he cannot be recalled again.

 

So, may be they would take a call about replacements in a few days, after getting a very clear picture. Bhuvi's injury happened just yesterday.

 

 

 

[Rightarmfast]

Weird strategy. Sounds like Kohli has made a gang which will never be replaced, no matter what!

[Ankit_sharma03]

Its WC and they dont wanna loose their main players.....thats why u have backups in squad to cover players who are injured for time being. 

[diehardpacer]

It's risky.Given wet conditions in most of the matches,they should expect few more injuries & plan accordingly.Read somewhere they had sent back Saini & other practice bowlers back before the 1st match.They should call Ishant as cover here.

If they don't want to rule Dhawan out,niggle one out of DK,Jadhav,Shankar out & get Pant in.

Currently,the squad is 9 decent players + Jadhav,Shankar,Jadeja,DK .Not making these replacement decisions early could prove costly if an emergency arises in crunch match.

[Stuge]

High time 18 players should be allowed in world cups instead of 15 during WC.

[Malcolm Merlyn]

Weird strategy. Sounds like Kohli has made a gang which will never be replaced, no matter what!

That would be clearer if Shikhar Dhawan gets back into the test team.

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[G_B_]

shami is a good cover for Bhuvi. Rahul appears to be a cover for Dhawan.

 

So make the most informed decision. Its a right call.

 

 

[ShoonyaSifar]

Now that they have a 6 day break, expect that they will review the situation and take a call. Best time now to get replacements in so that they have a week to 10 days to get ready to come into the 11.

 

Kedar and Shankar do not look fully fit either. Don't be surprised to see them aggravate their injuries soon. Shankar infact went out for treatment for what looked like a muscle pull yesterday after bowling an over and a half.

[Stuge]

1 hour ago, Malcolm Merlyn said:

That would be clearer if Shikhar Dhawan gets back into the test team.

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Katne wala hai ... 95% chances he won't play again 

[Khota]

Op has a valid point. Someone independent needs to make a recommendation if these players would be fit or not. If Dhawan's thumb is truly fractured we are looking at minimum of several weeks before it heals. Just because it heals does not mean he can play.

 

Being healthy and healed and match fit are two different things. Injuries are part of sports and they need to be replaced.

 

Also hamstrings can take a long time.

[Ankit_sharma03]

2 hours ago, G_B_ said:

shami is a good cover for Bhuvi. Rahul appears to be a cover for Dhawan.

 

So make the most informed decision. Its a right call.

 

 

Exactly and the kind of freak dhawan becomes in ICC tournament u wud like to wait for him as much as possible. Now that it looks easy to go through semi final....its gives time to wait for dhawan

[ShoonyaSifar]

2 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

Exactly and the kind of freak dhawan becomes in ICC tournament u wud like to wait for him as much as possible. Now that it looks easy to go through semi final....its gives time to wait for dhawan

So message to Rahul is irrespective of how you do in remaining 5 matches, Dhawan will open in Semis! Doesn't quite sound right. For the semis, why would you change a combo that works for 6 matches.

[Ankit_sharma03]

2 minutes ago, ShoonyaSifar said:

So message to Rahul is irrespective of how you do in remaining 5 matches, Dhawan will open in Semis! Doesn't quite sound right. For the semis, why would you change a combo that works for 6 matches.

yea it shud be the message .........

it isnt even right to give dhawan a mssg that he has done well for 6 yrs and even in this tournament and he ll loose the place just coz someone does well for 2-3 games. 2-3 games cant take away 6 yrs of perfomance 

6 matches is nothing in front of 6 yrs..........and btw let that perfomance happen in 6 games. Add to that Left right hand combination 

[Suhaan]

If Dhawan comes back just before our last league match ie before semis,that would be ideal,Dhawan walking in straight into sfs is a huge huge risk no matter how valuable he has been in icc tournaments in the past

People will always say since he has done best in icc blah blah so must walki in straight in sfs leapfrogging the one who did his job in his absence

Edited June 17, 2019 by Suhaan

[cowboysfan]

Dhawan has a hairline  fracture, I expect  him to be back for the knockouts  but hamstring  injuries  for fast bowlers  don't heal so fast.

[G_B_]

I guess with bhuvi it really depends on how Shami does. If he delivers an amazing performance then clearly its just better to stick with Shami than risk it. If he sucks then its time to bring back Bhuvi. 

 

If Rahul delivers with the bat and Shikar is fit for the final stages then Rahul back to 4 and you pick the better option among Kedar and Vijay. 

 

We still have around 5 games. Lets give a good role up the order to Vijay and Jadhav. I want to see them back at 4 and 5.

 

As somebody rightly mentions, Kedar me thinks is carrying and injury or is not 100%. He has a week to be 100% v Afghanistan. 

 

 

[zen]

Both Pant and Saini should have been in the squad in the first place .... And that would have made it easier for the team to handle such injuries 

Edited June 17, 2019 by zen

[Malcolm Merlyn]

Katne wala hai ... 95% chances he won't play again 

Ideally Shaw and Mayank should open in WI.

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[nevada]

5 hours ago, philcric said:

The only thing in defence of TM is that once a player is replaced, he cannot be recalled again.

 

So, may be they would take a call about replacements in a few days, after getting a very clear picture. Bhuvi's injury happened just yesterday.

 

 

 

That is true but they have to be realistic. Dhawan is an amazing player and awesome guy but practicality has to take over in this case.