Franco Vazquez Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 Is it the experts who named him as the best spinner and even all rounder in this tournament? Is it IPL and other T20 leagues or is it that he doesn't have experience of playing in these conditions? Mujeeb played the same match and went off with respectable 44 in 10 overs then what happened with Rashid Uncle that he went for a century? Link to comment
Laaloo Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 (edited) His parents for giving him birth Edited June 19, 2019 by Laaloo bahubali and Frustrated 2 Link to comment
Vilander Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 IPL obviously. if he has played in PSL he would have become ishtarr maan. ok bye. bahubali, sandeep, Franco Vazquez and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment
Franco Vazquez Posted June 19, 2019 Author Share Posted June 19, 2019 7 minutes ago, Vilander said: IPL obviously. if he has played in PSL he would have become ishtarr maan. ok bye. Mujeeb played in IPL as well but he went for less half of the runs he conceded. Link to comment
Vilander Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, Franco Vazquez said: Mujeeb played in IPL as well but he went for less half of the runs he conceded. but he was not IPL ishtaar...Rashid bhai should have played the greatest league of all PSL...thats where the issue is..its very clear. Haarkarjeetgaye and bahubali 1 1 Link to comment
rkt.india Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 Mostly got thrashed by Morgan who is a left hander and Rashid does struggle against lefties being a leg spinner. Mujeeb predominantly an off spinner fared better against the left hander Morgan. It was all Morgan show yesterday. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, Franco Vazquez said: Mujeeb played in IPL as well but he went for less half of the runs he conceded. Mujeeb got thrashed in IPL badly. Link to comment
Vilander Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 (edited) 1 minute ago, rkt.india said: Mostly got thrashed by Morgan who is a left hander and Rashid does struggle against lefties being a leg spinner. Mujeeb predominantly an off spinner fared better against the left hander Morgan. It was all Morgan show yesterday. no pls dont give fact here, stick to the OP train of thoughts. who is responsible for Rashid being beaten up by Morgan ?( select IPL as it is also mentioned in OP ) obey me. Edited June 19, 2019 by Vilander Haarkarjeetgaye and rkt.india 1 1 Link to comment
First class Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 Age is catching up on him. He is doing what Pakistani cricketers are doing lately, flashes of brilliance and then regress quickly. Link to comment
mishra Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 (edited) Pitch. Predicted long back that England has tailored every pitch they play on, for 350+ runs. Home advantage Edited June 19, 2019 by mishra Wall2018 1 Link to comment
Tattieboy Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 Just now, mishra said: Pitch. Predicted long back that England has tailored every pitch they play on, for 350+ runs. Home advantage His theory then of the pitch is so true I will try half trackers and full tosses didn't work then . When that didn't work he reverted to half volleys right in the slot just to see if he could find the middle of Morgan's bat that way. Link to comment
Franco Vazquez Posted June 19, 2019 Author Share Posted June 19, 2019 11 minutes ago, mishra said: Pitch. Predicted long back that England has tailored every pitch they play on, for 350+ runs. Home advantage What about other 4 matches? He has got just 3 wickets in this tournament in 5 matches Link to comment
Nikhil_cric Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 He is overrated. The longer the format and higher the quality of opposition , this guy will fail. Also his action is suspect. Link to comment
mishra Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 6 hours ago, Tattieboy said: His theory then of the pitch is so true I will try half trackers and full tosses didn't work then . When that didn't work he reverted to half volleys right in the slot just to see if he could find the middle of Morgan's bat that way. If you have played any serious cricket, You will know that on dead pitch, only advice coach gives is vary the length. Its just that, he was able to do it. No one for a second is buying the idea that Morgans side has 350+ in them on grounds outside England. Fact Vilander 1 Link to comment
Cricketics Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 He was well read by Morgan. Still a good bowler just having hard time since he is getting to face the reality that not all pitches are desi pitches where it spins and can favor his bowling. This can happen to anyone. He is still a pretty damn good bowler. Link to comment
Stan AF Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 Not having enough experience playing proper Top 10 ODI Teams. This shows the level of Associate cricketing nations. Link to comment
Tattieboy Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 37 minutes ago, mishra said: If you have played any serious cricket, You will know that on dead pitch, only advice coach gives is vary the length. Its just that, he was able to do it. No one for a second is buying the idea that Morgans side has 350+ in them on grounds outside England. Fact You see that's the difference between theory and reality . The game is not played in the dressing room and on lap tops, the coach doesn't bowl . Sure plans are made for each batsmen but at the end of the day it's the bowler against batsman and it's upto him to figure how he going to get a batsman out , how he is going to bowl to him . The reality is Rashid Khan was faced with a problem and a batsman he had no idea what to do with and ended up panicking and just bowling any place .if he wasn't Afghanistani he would go from being first pick in the team to like any other player in a good team having to produce the goods or being dropped. If ICFrs think that any international batsman should just stroll on the pitch and score a hundred then surely by logic that means bowlers will suffer ? Or do you guys think if you play Afghanistan that Sharma, Kohli Dhoni will all score a hundred + and Rashid Khan will have figures of 10overs 0 wickets for 0 ? Link to comment
mishra Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 (edited) ^ Kuldeep was low and all over the place in runup to this world Cup. Infact iirc he had allmost breakdown in a IPL game. But people who understood his quality knew that he is quality, Result: Delivery of tournament in biggest match of tournament agaist their number 3 to hit middle stump. Bottom line is, its silly or borderline stupidity to judge bowler with Bowling figures against England on doctored pitches . Once more, blame pitches Edited June 20, 2019 by mishra Link to comment
mishra Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 Btw, if everything is fine then how come every team is displaying best batting figures against England. If Jofra Archer wasn’t in side, I am certain that this doctored pitch strategy would have been a big fail. Even now, You will see repeat of Eng Pakistan game AuxiliA 1 Link to comment
Tattieboy Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 30 minutes ago, mishra said: Btw, if everything is fine then how come every team is displaying best batting figures against England. If Jofra Archer wasn’t in side, I am certain that this doctored pitch strategy would have been a big fail. Even now, You will see repeat of Eng Pakistan game What score do you think teams should be scoring in a WC ? 260 , 270 ? Link to comment
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