Dhoni in the middle of India's middle-order mess

[SK_IH]

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If you have followed Dhoni's batting in the last few years, you sensed the routine. He assesses the pace of the pitch and then figures out what a par score is. Then he'll just bat, without ever trying to take any risk, until the very last few overs. His partners too would follow his instructions, without question. Kedar Jadhav is a Dhoni confidante and seems to trust his senior more than himself. Both men had have patiently stitched together partnerships at difficult times like in Melbourne in January.

Not that pretty much everyone is aware of this fact but the most cogent argument that the Cricinfo writer has put forward here is the bold part. There is one thing playing at snails pace yourself but exacerbating the situation by influencing the batting partner in your madness is another. I concede the pitch was not great but that cannot absolve Dhoni off his ordinary aimless batting.

 

If India has to win the world cup, Dhoni has to be more forthright. Ostentatious displays during stumping appeals is not the only thing expected out of Dhoni. Yeh dil maange more

 

Source : https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/27035836/dhoni-middle-india-middle-order-mess

Edited June 24, 2019 by SK_IH

[SK_IH]

Dhoni may be a good guide in a tense chase but he cannot tell others to follow his flawed methodology in every situation.

[sergio04]

Without dhoni India would get bundled out on 150.

He was true MOM.

Edited June 24, 2019 by sergio04
want to add

[cowboysfan]

I can get get Dhonis method,our bowling is leaps and bounds better than our batting and the most important thing we can do is not not get bowled out for a cheap score but having said that they are overdoing it a lot.you can be cautious and still keep the run  rate high with singles .Dhoni is not doing that with his blocking,for a player of his experience he is really really bad at keeping the run rate going with singles and twos.

[SK_IH]

3 minutes ago, cowboysfan said:

I can get get Dhonis method,our bowling is leaps and bounds better than our batting and the most important thing we can do is not not get bowled out for a cheap score but having said that they are overdoing it a lot.you can be cautious and still keep the run  rate high with singles .Dhoni is not doing that with his blocking,for a player of his experience he is really really bad at keeping the run rate going with singles and twos.

his batting has reached absolute nadir facing upto leg spinners and left arm spinners. 

[GautiMaan]

14 minutes ago, SK_IH said:

Not that pretty much everyone is aware of this fact but the most cogent argument that the Cricinfo writer has put forward here is the bold part. There is one thing playing at snails pace yourself but exacerbating the situation by influencing the batting partner is your madness is another. I concede the pitch was not great but that cannot absolve Dhoni off his ordinary aimless batting.

 

If India has to win the world cup, Dhoni has to be more forthright. Ostentatious displays during stumping appeals is not the only thing expected out of Dhoni. Yeh dil maange more

 

Source : https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/27035836/dhoni-middle-india-middle-order-mess

The ones and two's also seem to have gone out of his batting.

The most infuriating sight in world cricket today is Dhoni lunging towards the ball and tapping it to the fielder inside the ring.

[Stan AF]

Cricinfo 

[GautiMaan]

The only way out seems to be batting Dhoni at number 6.

The entire strategy of the top 5 must be to leave Dhoni as few balls to face as possible

[beetle]

So dhoni gets to decide what the par score is and others have to follow like brainless sheep?

 

Edited June 24, 2019 by beetle

[sergio04]

What are dhoni stats in wc against non minnows?

[Stan AF]

Anybody watched when he got out?. Did he get booed again?. The article mentions it.

[rkt.india]

19 minutes ago, sergio04 said:

Without dhoni India would get bundled out on 150.

He was true MOM.

We were 122/3 when Dhoni came in. He was responsible for Kohli's wicket with his slow batting as well. 

[R!TTER]

7 minutes ago, sergio04 said:

What are dhoni stats in wc against non minnows?

Pathetic, you wouldn't want to look them up 

[sergio04]

6 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

We were 122/3 when Dhoni came in. He was responsible for Kohli's wicket with his slow batting as well. 

So he stopped falling of wickets and stabilised inning by stitching a valuable partnership with Jadhaw. Masterful inning by MSD.

[New guy]

11 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

We were 122/3 when Dhoni came in. He was responsible for Kohli's wicket with his slow batting as well. 

Just troll vote the troll and move on 

[New guy]

19 minutes ago, beetle said:

So dhoni gets to decide what the par score is abd others have to follow like brainless sheep?

 

If you see kohlis interview he was parroting Dhoni's words, about how they decided on a low target and stuck to the plan. Kohli is just a puppet in odis. It's the dhoni show 

 

Sometimes I feel the latter is intentionally sabotaging because another WC win, away from home will take a bit of sheen off Dhoni's own legacy as a world cup winning captain which has only happened twice and only once in the modern era for India 

Edited June 24, 2019 by New guy

[R!TTER]

That game should've been over by 45th over, anyone who watched that game would realize that it was ultimately Jadhav that won us the game. Much like BK in one of the match vs SL, where Akila ran riot. Dhoni was playing like a nightwatchman 

[Norman]

We are not winning the world cup with Shankar, Dhoni and Jadhav at 4, 5 and 6 and nervous wrack Rahul opening. 

 

Our TM f'ed up pretty bad the golden chance of winning a world cup when we are at our peak as an odi team and the competitors are not as good as they were in the past. 

 

Now let's just enjoy this ride by not complaining too much because it's too late and keep our expectations as low as possible. If not, then get ready for an inevitable heartbreak in the Semi final. 

 

 

Edited June 24, 2019 by Norman

[R!TTER]

1 minute ago, Norman said:

If not, then get ready for an inevitable heartbreak in the Semi final.

I'd rather we crash out before, instead of losing another KO  game! We've already lost 4 this decade IIRC 

[sergio04]

Dhoni always score in big matches

Final 2011, semis 2015.

While Rohit and virat are chokers 

So its the top order who needs to score runs not choke as usual.