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For folks from Guatemala, Honduras, etc, I can understand, but what religious or political persecution would compel someone to be so desperate. Leaving India and entering USA is not the same leaving violence in Central America. 

 

Now if if she was coming to reunite with her Dad, I can understand that, but then the Dad is partly responsible for putting wife and the daughter in grave danger of the terrain and the coyotes (smugglers).

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28 minutes ago, Audiophile said:

For folks from Guatemala, Honduras, etc, I can understand, but what religious or political persecution would compel someone to be so desperate. Leaving India and entering USA is not the same leaving violence in Central America. 

 

Now if if she was coming to reunite with her Dad, I can understand that, but then the Dad is partly responsible for putting wife and the daughter in grave danger of the terrain and the coyotes (smugglers).

People take desperate measure in desperate time. Maybe the dad also came to US in the same way. In NJ, most of them working in gas stations are Punjabis, don't know if they come on vistor's visa and work illegally for 6 months and go back or come to US on asylum like this. They should work hard in India. They think if they work the same way as they work in India, they can earn in dollars and earn more. Greediness leads to such misery.

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Why do people have children if they are so unhappy with life in their country ?

Why not wait till they reach their dreamland?

Why put poor innocent children through this?

What kind of life are they dreaming of as illegals?

 

 

Parents should be held responsible for this.

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4 hours ago, WC2011INDIA said:

Why can't punjabis migrate with dignity from one place to another? Why do they resort to such tactics? It's like it gives them a high or something.

Sadly Punjabi Sikhs are a now now materialistic society. Desperate to move abroad because every other person they know has moved. It's keeping up with the Jones's. They don't realise that life for an unskilled person in the west is pretty crap. Instead of educating themselves they look to move abroad through any means necessary. The annoying thing is that they are lazy in India but work like donkeys in the west.

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11 hours ago, beetle said:

Why do people have children if they are so unhappy with life in their country ?

Why not wait till they reach their dreamland?

Why put poor innocent children through this?

What kind of life are they dreaming of as illegals?

 

 

Parents should be held responsible for this.

i think the parent seperated from an other group and lost her child and walked back to Mexico. Its such a tragedy a 7 year old girl what would she have known..poor thing.

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3 hours ago, Ranvir said:

Sadly Punjabi Sikhs are a now now materialistic society. Desperate to move abroad because every other person they know has moved. It's keeping up with the Jones's. They don't realise that life for an unskilled person in the west is pretty crap. Instead of educating themselves they look to move abroad through any means necessary. The annoying thing is that they are lazy in India but work like donkeys in the west.

Agree, I was shocked to see so many holdings, banners all across Punjab offering Canada visa application process etc, on my recent trip. At a time it got ridiculous where I saw Canadian flag all across. I am not exaggerating there, I saw many Canadian flags around Jalandhar and Amirtsar region, and was absolutely shocked to see that. 

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1 minute ago, Cricketics said:

Agree, I was shocked to see so many holdings, banners all across Punjab offering Canada visa application process etc, on my recent trip. At a time it got ridiculous where I saw Canadian flag all across. I am not exaggerating there, I saw many Canadian flags around Jalandhar and Amirtsar region, and was absolutely shocked to see that. 

Canada needs immigrants if it's not from India it will be elsewhere from South Asia. 

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2 minutes ago, Vilander said:

Canada needs immigrants if it's not from India it will be elsewhere from South Asia. 

They have enough now, but thats another issue anyway. What I didn't like or I should say I was surprised to see so much promos and business opened just for Visa application for Canada throughout the Punjab region. 

 

I would visit my cousin's university in Thapar, I saw offices there.. I went to eat near a mall in Amritsar, there you will see huge building with 60 percent offices all competing with each other to offer student visa to Canada or just standard form help for older people to fill their application for Canada. Canada or KANNADA as they say it down there is just on everyone's mind. Its actually crazy. 

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2 minutes ago, Cricketics said:

They have enough now, but thats another issue anyway. What I didn't like or I should say I was surprised to see so much promos and business opened just for Visa application for Canada throughout the Punjab region. 

 

I would visit my cousin's university in Thapar, I saw offices there.. I went to eat near a mall in Amritsar, there you will see huge building with 60 percent offices all competing with each other to offer student visa to Canada or just standard form help for older people to fill their application for Canada. Canada or KANNADA as they say it down there is just on everyone's mind. Its actually crazy. 

this will change with Scheer. But you are missing the point, its better us than others, cause there is going to be a 3-4 lack intake every year for some time..Canada thinks it can be a particular population by 2030 and needs to be for taking care of its old. Else all Indians will have to go back to India after they are 60 imagine that, make money take it out and go to India. 

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4 minutes ago, Vilander said:

 Else all Indians will have to go back to India after they are 60 imagine that, make money take it out and go to India.

I think they will go back regardless in that age. Very few remain. Same thing with US. When you are that age like 65
+ 70ish, you start to wonder whether India is better place to live since now you can actually enjoy better and live a much simpler life. No one looks for extreme luxury at such age. 

 

My parents have been in the US for about 20 years now. They visit India regularly and like it but they never used to think they will want to live in India permanently, since they have already spent good amount of time outside India and got used to it. But now as the years are going by, after all their recent trips, they start to talk about how they can live in India. I see a shift in their opinion and their liking for living in India increasing and they would love to actually settle down may be one day in the near future. I think its hard for me or you to predict how the 65+ or 70+ is thinking. My parents are not even close to 65, but you get the feeling as people get older, they like to live a much simpler life which is available back home in India than here. This is not true for us folks. 

 

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12 minutes ago, Vilander said:

this will change with Scheer. But you are missing the point, its better us than others, cause there is going to be a 3-4 lack intake every year for some time..Canada thinks it can be a particular population by 2030 and needs to be for taking care of its old. Else all Indians will have to go back to India after they are 60 imagine that, make money take it out and go to India. 

 

18 minutes ago, Cricketics said:

They have enough now, but thats another issue anyway. What I didn't like or I should say I was surprised to see so much promos and business opened just for Visa application for Canada throughout the Punjab region. 

 

I would visit my cousin's university in Thapar, I saw offices there.. I went to eat near a mall in Amritsar, there you will see huge building with 60 percent offices all competing with each other to offer student visa to Canada or just standard form help for older people to fill their application for Canada. Canada or KANNADA as they say it down there is just on everyone's mind. Its actually crazy. 

Why make Khalistan in Punjab, when the entire KANEDDA is for you!

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7 minutes ago, Cricketics said:

No comments on that. I haven't lived in Canada enough to make an opinion. 

KANEDDA PM Justin Trudeau must learn to read and write in Gurumukhi script and blare Sukhbir's "Oh ho ho ho" in his car while driving from Toronto to Vancouver.

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39 minutes ago, MechEng said:

 

Why make Khalistan in Punjab, when the entire KANEDDA is for you!

I am not punjabi. Khalistan is ISI manufactured, there are some legit grievances if GOI apologises for 1982 and ensures justice legit grievances will be managed. paid ISI cronies let them go f themselves. 

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Dare I say seeking asylum seems to be the quickest way to emigrate.

 

I knew a jamaican guy claiming to be gay despite having a family with 3 children. Apparently he was forced to marry.... (being gay in Jamaica was illegal at that time). Few years on after getting asylum he made an application to get his family (including wife) on human rights grounds.

 

People pull **** like this and then expect white people in the west not to get pissed off.

 

Recently a boat load of migrants from africa died crossing over to spain. You had human rights people blaming authorities for failing to rescue them.

 

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3 hours ago, Cricketics said:

Agree, I was shocked to see so many holdings, banners all across Punjab offering Canada visa application process etc, on my recent trip. At a time it got ridiculous where I saw Canadian flag all across. I am not exaggerating there, I saw many Canadian flags around Jalandhar and Amirtsar region, and was absolutely shocked to see that. 

It's all about IELETS and toefl tests! However these have actually got quite difficult now, illiterate people have absolutely no chance of passing them. 

 

There were a lot of fake college course here in England offering student visas but the government has shut them down now. Illegals have no future. Crappy living conditions,  abused by employers, no scope of marriage. They are much better off staying in India.

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Ppkl are too stupid to realize it's not the 80s anymore ...desis who came here at the time were able to earn good, save a lot and even buy a house here relatively quickly....nowadays thats not possible especially for unskilled

 

I know a local bengali guy unable to hold down a job, living on food stamps, still refuses to go back to india.. even though he has property, wife and a kid back home. I dont understand this craze of earning dollar by any means necessary.

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57 minutes ago, Texy said:

Ppkl are too stupid to realize it's not the 80s anymore ...desis who came here at the time were able to earn good, save a lot and even buy a house here relatively quickly....nowadays thats not possible especially for unskilled

 

I know a local bengali guy unable to hold down a job, living on food stamps, still refuses to go back to india.. even though he has property, wife and a kid back home. I dont understand this craze of earning dollar by any means necessary.

Many of them want to go back but are too ashamed to as they may be deemed a 'failure' for not having made it big.

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6 hours ago, Cricketics said:

Agree, I was shocked to see so many holdings, banners all across Punjab offering Canada visa application process etc, on my recent trip. At a time it got ridiculous where I saw Canadian flag all across. I am not exaggerating there, I saw many Canadian flags around Jalandhar and Amirtsar region, and was absolutely shocked to see that. 

That is Bcoz Justin Trudeau has opened the flood gates for students, so many of them here in very short time, high fees they are managing is by selling farm land to get their foot inside Canada. Some of them behaving like dippers since they can't adjust to a their new found freedom far away from home and still act like retards :facepalm:

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3 hours ago, Under_Score said:

That is Bcoz Justin Trudeau has opened the flood gates for students, so many of them here in very short time, high fees they are managing is by selling farm land to get their foot inside Canada. Some of them behaving like dippers since they can't adjust to a their new found freedom far away from home and still act like retards :facepalm:

They are everywhere man not sure how they will get jobs

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5 hours ago, Vilander said:

They are everywhere man not sure how they will get jobs

Jobs many are doing part-time in the construction Industry which is dominated by Punjabi Builders & Tradesmen.... now even housing market is slow....also some of these newbies are buying $50K sports cars with 0% down payment....WTF is wrong with these 'Showoffs'? :facepalm: Seems like they are trying to compete with extremely rich Punjabis who have worked very hard for decades and purchased so much land here and have become multi-millionaires. 

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https://www.dtnext.in/News/National/2019/06/20204141/1152913/Kerala-migrant-boat-with-243-people-missing-since-.vpf

 

Kerala 'migrant' boat with 243 people missing since January

 

he External Affairs Ministry said it has sensitised several countries in the Pacific Ocean region about a missing vessel that sailed from Kerala with people on board more than five months ago.

 
 
New Delhi: 
MEA spokesperson Raveesh Kumar said they are yet to receive any information from these countries in the matter.
 
According to media reports, the vessel, named 'Deva Matha 2', had set sail from a port in Kerala's Ernakulam district on January 12 and according to the state police it had 243 people on board.
 
"When it sailed we were informed by the state government that there are people on board and they were headed towards a specific destination in the Pacific Ocean and our responsibility was to sensitise the countries in that region. Tell them what we know and also seek inputs from them just in case they come across this vessel," Kumar told reporters.
 
"Till now we have not received any information from the countries we have asked for inputs," he said.
 
The family members of those missing have approached several authorities and even sent a joint memorandum to the MEA.
 
On the extradition request of bank fugitive Mehul Choksi, Kumar said a certain process has to be followed and they have been told that the extradition request remains under the consideration of Antigua & Barbuda authorities.  

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8 hours ago, Under_Score said:

Jobs many are doing part-time in the construction Industry which is dominated by Punjabi Builders & Tradesmen.... now even housing market is slow....also some of these newbies are buying $50K sports cars with 0% down payment....WTF is wrong with these 'Showoffs'? :facepalm: Seems like they are trying to compete with extremely rich Punjabis who have worked very hard for decades and purchased so much land here and have become multi-millionaires. 

its ridiculous, the problem is if its only student visa many might not get work and move to WP - PR etc. might struggle for some time  even if they manange and go back to India with PR after spending all their money here. Its stupid what they are doing to their family wealth. 

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19 hours ago, Texy said:

Ppkl are too stupid to realize it's not the 80s anymore ...desis who came here at the time were able to earn good, save a lot and even buy a house here relatively quickly....nowadays thats not possible especially for unskilled

 

I know a local bengali guy unable to hold down a job, living on food stamps, still refuses to go back to india.. even though he has property, wife and a kid back home. I dont understand this craze of earning dollar by any means necessary.

thats what most people in the middle east so as well right? live like crap but save enough to send money back home?

 

 

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1 hour ago, G_B_ said:

thats what most people in the middle east so as well right? live like crap but save enough to send money back home?

 

 

Most desis who go to the middle east don't go there to live permanently, their plan is always to go back home even if it is after 5, 10, 20 years. When they go to the west it's always for permanent. Furthermore they do not go to the middle east illegally. Illegals in the uk will sometimes live 10 in a house, there have even been cases of them living in garden sheds, they have no plans on going back despite living like dogs.

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