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The England Thread (WC19)


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Eng has too many good players to not be able to pick its game. Roy, Root, Morgon, Stokes, and Buttler have all played good innings, now just need to focus to put all together. Bowling has to improve. Fielding can be better 

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1 hour ago, sergio04 said:

Lekin yeh conditions nahi dekhte

Eng is used to playing there so maybe do not consider the conditions as challenging as some of the other teams :dontknow: . .... but, yeah, need to respect conditions

 

In 2011, Ind went through a period where many were like Ind can score but cannot defend esp. after it tied its game with Eng (scored 338 batting 2nd), and lost to SA (chased 296) in the group stages. Ind was able to pick up its game. Here Eng is in a similar situation so let us see if it can bounce back 

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They may still qualify but the sheer arrogance of former pros and pundits for a team who has achieved nothing on the world stage has been quite astonishing. 

 

Even after their loss to Pakistan we had the likes of Michael Vaughan and Rob Key discussing which semi venue they'd be best suited at. 

 

Even at their loss to Sri Lanka they were discussing how they would surely win at least one of their remaining games despite World Cup history telling you they haven't defeated any of these 3 teams for some time. 

 

Even after Australia had posted 280, they were convinced there were going to chase it. 

 

Staggering. 

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7 minutes ago, WeStMiDz said:

Even at their loss to Sri Lanka they were discussing how they would surely win at least one of their remaining games despite World Cup history telling you they haven't defeated any of these 3 teams for some time. 

History should tie up with current/recent form. ‘83 Ind and ‘96 SL had no history to speak about but on form, they performed well. On recent form, Eng is the #1 ranked side 

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4 minutes ago, zen said:

History should tie up with current/recent form. ‘83 Ind and ‘96 SL had no history to speak about but on form, they performed well. On recent form, Eng is the #1 ranked side 

I think history cannot be discounted. There are just some teams who have your number. See India v Pak. See Sri Lanka v England. Psychology plays a massive part in sport. 

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1 minute ago, WeStMiDz said:

I think history cannot be discounted. There are just some teams who have your number. See India v Pak. See Sri Lanka v England. Psychology plays a massive part in sport. 

Historically too, Eng has beaten Aus, Ind, and NZ in world cups. Over the last few WCs, they haven’t been a great ODI side, which is one of the reasons they changed a lot of aspects about their LOI game 

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8 minutes ago, chewy said:

Unfortunately for them ICC stop rolling out flat tracks

 

That has impacted their game plan. But would need to adjust quickly. If they reach SF, may bump into Aus again at Old Trafford, which can be good for batting 

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Oh boy, what a comeback!

 

  • First, plans did not fall into place as conditions were not as expected 
  • Second, made a few mistakes including not doing the right thing at the toss
  • Third, had a few weaknesses in the 11
  • Fourth, needed to win 2 games against tough teams to make it to SF (so KOs for Bullgods started from the game vs Ind)

Learned from mistakes, made changes, and became more focused! 

 

 

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