vvvslaxman Posted July 4, 2019 Author Share Posted July 4, 2019 Shami leaked 51 runs in 3 overs against England in the end. Same way right at the end he leaked 35 runs in 3 overs against Bangladesh. Link to comment
mishra Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 In fact i watched few video of his technique. If ball is swinging in and is above knee roll height. he is not middling it. Anything else and he smacks them. So ball coming in to him just at a heght above pads and his waist is his weakness. Hope we are preapred for the hack. Link to comment
mishra Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 3 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: Shami leaked 51 runs in 3 overs against England in the end. Same way right at the end he leaked 35 runs in 3 overs against Bangladesh. We need to prepare against each bats, specifically the two openers Bairstow Roy Root Stokes and Butler. Pin them down. Short boundry wont make difference if Bevada can spend time to figure out what is indeed needed Link to comment
figo6762 Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 4 minutes ago, mishra said: We need to prepare against each bats, specifically the two openers Bairstow Roy Root Stokes and Butler. Pin them down. Short boundry wont make difference if Bevada can spend time to figure out what is indeed needed Jaddu is a must against jonny and Roy . Would open with him . Drop chahal..... they need some fast spin .. Link to comment
SRT100 Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 India is not going to change the opening pair, its just too late to do it now. India's strength in this world cup is going to be their bowlers. I think its also too late to play Mayank, time will tell. Mayank/Jedhav/DK are not going to win a game nor are they going to get close to setting up a par score if Hitman and Kohli fail. Top 3 batsmen are going to have to play the game of their lives in the semi. Game will probably be decided by the toss of the coin, if India chase, game is over. 6 bowlers of the quality of Bumrah, Shami, Bhuvi, Chalal, Jadeja and Pandya can defend the total but also make sure that England get only par or under. KL Hitman Kohli Pant Pandya Dhoni Jadeja Bhuvi Shami Chahal Bumrah Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted July 4, 2019 Author Share Posted July 4, 2019 Jadeja at 7 is a suicide mission. India needs to have a decent enough batting arsenal to engage England in a battathon on a flat wicket. Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted July 4, 2019 Author Share Posted July 4, 2019 India should spread a rumour they are opening with Dhoni lol Master_better 1 Link to comment
mishra Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: Jadeja at 7 is a suicide mission. India needs to have a decent enough batting arsenal to engage England in a battathon on a flat wicket. Letting Roy score 50+ is suicide. Jaddu is best arsenal we got Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted July 4, 2019 Author Share Posted July 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, mishra said: Letting Roy score 50+ is suicide. Jaddu is best arsenal we got We cannot have 4 seamers and 2 specialist spinners. Some body has to make way for the batsman. Pant, Pandya are finishers. They are not going to make 100s down the order. Dhoni is Dhoni. IT is almost like our batting stops at 5. India will end up with totals like 250/4 after 50 overs. Link to comment
asterix Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 (edited) Roy plays like Sehwag... Minimal foot movement and swing of bat.. I think Jaddu can dart him in front of the wicket first up. Can open the bowling... But who are we? Just amature cricket fans. Who are we to give advice...The experienced "Team Management" should know better... Edited July 4, 2019 by asterix mishra, Master_better and Suhaan 3 Link to comment
mishra Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 1 minute ago, vvvslaxman said: We cannot have 4 seamers and 2 specialist spinners. Some body has to make way for the batsman. Pant, Pandya are finishers. They are not going to make 100s down the order. Dhoni is Dhoni. IT is almost like our batting stops at 5. India will end up with totals like 250/4 after 50 overs. Rest Shami. 3 pacers 3 spinners. I am certain if we get Roy out cheaply, rest of of their batting lineup will struggle to reach 270. Jaddu is only person who has best chance against Roy. And my cricket team mates (mostly English) do remember Jaddu and argue on length why Jaddu is best spinner in Indian team. So there is something they remember about him. Link to comment
asterix Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 (edited) 14 minutes ago, mishra said: Rest Shami. 3 pacers 3 spinners. I am certain if we get Roy out cheaply, rest of of their batting lineup will struggle to reach 270. Jaddu is only person who has best chance against Roy. And my cricket team mates (mostly English) do remember Jaddu and argue on length why Jaddu is best spinner in Indian team. So there is something they remember about him. Yes, the key is Roy... His return changed the batting approach of England team... With him scoring from one end, there's less pressure of Bairstow. Edited July 4, 2019 by asterix Link to comment
mishra Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 5 minutes ago, asterix said: Yes, the key is Roy... His reurn changed the batting approach of England team... With him scoring from one end, there's less pressure of Bairstow. iirc in opening two matches of England, teams started with spin against England and got one opener early in both the games. But getting Roy is very important. We cant afford to drop his catch. Even Aussies dropped Zampa and took help of Lyon against England asterix 1 Link to comment
figo6762 Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 India should just be prepared to chase 325... jaddu is our best bet ... open with him and bhuvi... bairstow has thing for those corridor balls from a trundled like bhuvi.... keep bumrah rah for the rest... i have no confidence in chahal, I will play shami ahead of him ... shami is like a bull , you got to treat him right before the game get him in the head space ... key is to get bairstow, root and stokes ... eoin will get out to a Pandya shami bouncer .. roy won’t last against jaddu butler bumrah will get him .. Link to comment
Khota Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 Agarwal needs to find it in starting 11 and position 4. Pandya and Dhoni are just not capable as this specialist batsman. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, vvvslaxman said: kuldeep is a MUST period. Archer went for like 79 runs against Pakistan. Did they drop him? Kuldeep is a game breaker. Because Archer has 17 wickets at 22 this WC. Archer is not out of form. Kuldeep has 5 wickets at 55 and has looked completely off color. It is like playing Ashwn/Jaddu in 2017 CT when he is not in form. Edited July 4, 2019 by rkt.india Link to comment
rkt.india Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 1 hour ago, vvvslaxman said: Shami leaked 51 runs in 3 overs against England in the end. Same way right at the end he leaked 35 runs in 3 overs against Bangladesh. He also took a 5-fer that prevented England from scoring 380. zen 1 Link to comment
figo6762 Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 Just now, Khota said: Agarwal needs to find it in starting 11 and position 4. Pandya and Dhoni are just not capable as this specialist batsman. Who will u replace him with ... don’t see him making it ... ro ra ko pa dh hapa jad kul bhu bum sha Link to comment
rkt.india Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 1 hour ago, vvvslaxman said: This is Chahal's break down 7,9,3,11,15, 6, 2,10,15,12 Targeted easily in the end after 40th over. No wicket to speak. Usually bowls well in the middle. Couple of big overs of 11 and 15 upset our flow. Few reverse sweeps, slog sweeps clicked for them. With slow turn he was up against it. Otherwise he is an impact bowler. If they want to leave out a spinner drop him and pick Jadeja in place of him. India needs 2 spinners against England. In one match they won't become specialist players against spinners. They treated spinners same way last year as well. You forgot last year's ODI series. Spinners were ineffective then too. They are successful against spinners because they are aggressive. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 1 hour ago, mishra said: Also note that his recenet dismissals have all come against off break bolwers or bowled by pacers. Jaddu is worth gold dust against England in semis if he gets Roy cheaply Jaddu is not an off break bowler. Link to comment
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