Vijy Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 9 hours ago, sergio04 said: Babar Azam has better wc than kohli kohli has a history of going missing in WCs and bashing teams in ODI bilaterals. he is the rich man's amla and ABDV. Stan AF 1 Link to comment
Gollum Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 1 hour ago, Vijy said: kohli has a history of going missing in WCs and bashing teams in ODI bilaterals. he is the rich man's amla and ABDV. ABDV has a great WC record, moreover rain/fate robbed him in the 2015 SF cos he was in the mood to cement his legacy. Atm Kohli is like Amla. Link to comment
Vijy Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 3 minutes ago, Gollum said: ABDV has a great WC record, moreover rain/fate robbed him in the 2015 SF cos he was in the mood to cement his legacy. Atm Kohli is like Amla. well, I agree that he has a great WC record but the likes of that blitzkrieg 100 against windies don't count for a lot in my book. what I remember most about ABDV apart from the 2015 SF is how he choked and ran like a headless chicken against that 2011 QF vs NZ. He is clearly one of the very greatest ODI cricketers to grace the game (and one of the most talented ever too), but he has some blemishes on his record. He is definitely far better than mental midget Amla (another highly talented bat) and currently better than VK. Link to comment
kaptaan Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 19 hours ago, lotlil said: This situation will happen in the finals like it did in 2011. Guess who will play the rescue act again. Gambhir is retired Stan AF 1 Link to comment
Lannister Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 They are the seniors and should take most of the burden in knockout stages. One is Captain and the other is VC, so this is the team they backed for the WC. There are no excuses. SK_IH 1 Link to comment
SRT100 Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 17 hours ago, SK_IH said: Virat 50s were crucial against Aus, Pak and WI. Stop under rating him, yes he has not scored 100s but he has been pivotal. Virat's record is such anything less than 100 seems a failure. However I still back him to play a huge role in semis Kohli has done well this World Cup so far. He has to convert one of his 50+ into a big century that forms the backbone of the entire innings in the semi and/or final. If he fails to do this, then his performance this World Cup would be considered average. No point of getting good starts if he cant convert them to big 100s. sergio04 and Vijy 2 Link to comment
Shaz1 Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 The only time India would lose is if bowlers have a off day, Kohli and Rohit get out for a low score. Guys like Rahul, Pant, and Pandeya need to find some solid form if India is to potentially win this World Cup. Link to comment
sergio04 Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 Both will flop in semifinal Jimmy Cliff 1 Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 If Kohli doesn't click India is pretty much out. Thankfully he stepped up 5 times. 408 in 7 innings at avge of 58 and SR of 96 is a dream world cup for the most. As long as Kohli is at the crease chase is on. You can't say the same about Smith, Amla etc. For the record he has more runs in 1 world cup final than Tendulkar in 2 world cup finals. manu4411 1 Link to comment
Stan AF Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 On 7/5/2019 at 11:01 AM, maniac said: Given how pathetic the middle order is when we couldn’t even get a competitive score against Afghanistan when these 2 got out early and almost lost the game. It’s a Double edged sword. should they attack from the start? Heck even if they get out in over no.35 it’s curtains most times to estimated score. Cant imagine the pressure. Just one poor shot or a great delivery from the bowler and it’s curtains for India to get a par score. Rohit has scored 4 100s and a 50, Virat 5 50s, one bad game for both in the knockouts is bound to happen unless we are very very lucky. The way I see it they have to bat 75+ overs out of the 100 overs in (SF/F) Link to comment
sergio04 Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 6 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: If Kohli doesn't click India is pretty much out. Thankfully he stepped up 5 times. 408 in 7 innings at avge of 58 and SR of 96 is a dream world cup for the most. As long as Kohli is at the crease chase is on. You can't say the same about Smith, Amla etc. For the record he has more runs in 1 world cup final than Tendulkar in 2 world cup finals. What about semis and quarterfinals Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 3 minutes ago, sergio04 said: What about semis and quarterfinals Final > semi/quarter we can stretch it all the way back to the beginning. In this type of league every match is important as there is no QF here. Link to comment
sergio04 Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 Just now, vvvslaxman said: Final > semi/quarter we can stretch it all the way back to the beginning. In this type of league every match is important as there is no QF here. Semi is as important as final You don't need to score in semi to reach final, I guess To kohli or rohit ko semi se rest karwa de taaki wo final me cute 30 run bana sakey Link to comment
rkt.india Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 14 hours ago, sergio04 said: Babar Azam has better wc than kohli How? Kohli has 408 runs in 7 games, Babar 467 in 8. Kohli has 5 50 plus scores, Babar 4. Babar has an SR of 87, Kohli has 96. manu4411 and Stan AF 2 Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 26 minutes ago, sergio04 said: Semi is as important as final You don't need to score in semi to reach final, I guess To kohli or rohit ko semi se rest karwa de taaki wo final me cute 30 run bana sakey You need to score in all the matches. Not just semi. How do you get to semi? Imagine Kohli and Rohit decided to score only in semi and final. Who is going to take them to semi/final? Pinning their legacy on one match is ridiculous. Bad luck can happen even in the semis. Richards flunked in 2 out of 3 finals. That doesn't diminish his legacy. These are batting paradises. It is going to be battathon. Whoever makes less mistake will score runs. I will value wickets in 2019 semis over runs. Tendulkar semi exploits were against Kenya, Srilanka (which we lost), Pakistan (not exactly his best 50 in his career) Link to comment
Stan AF Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 (edited) Meanwhile Virat/Rohit have crossed 1000 ODI runs among overseas batsmen in England. Some ATG in that list here. http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=2;filter=advanced;host=1;orderby=runs;team=15;team=2;team=25;team=26;team=28;team=29;team=3;team=30;team=32;team=4;team=5;team=6;team=7;team=8;template=results;type=batting Edited July 6, 2019 by Stan AF Link to comment
Anoop K Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 QF, semis and finals are of equal importance 3 hours ago, vvvslaxman said: You need to score in all the matches. Not just semi. How do you get to semi? Imagine Kohli and Rohit decided to score only in semi and final. Who is going to take them to semi/final? Pinning their legacy on one match is ridiculous. Bad luck can happen even in the semis. Richards flunked in 2 out of 3 finals. That doesn't diminish his legacy. These are batting paradises. It is going to be battathon. Whoever makes less mistake will score runs. I will value wickets in 2019 semis over runs. Tendulkar semi exploits were against Kenya, Srilanka (which we lost), Pakistan (not exactly his best 50 in his career) If we take all tournaments viv has only 1 century compared to Sachin who has 6. Link to comment
Vijy Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 rohit seems to not be feeling the pressure much so far. however, I hope this duo can maintain form in KOs. Link to comment
DGBOSS Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 (edited) On 7/5/2019 at 1:40 AM, SRT100 said: If one of them does not get a 100, India will not win. We have been reduced to the old days of relying on Tendulkar to bat us to a par score or win a game while chasing. In fact it is better for the batsmen around them to take risks so that Hitman and Kohli can lock up one end. I dont even think laying a platform is enough either from these two, one of them has to also bat in the 40-50 over range to help the middle order batting score. If India lose 2/40 in the 10 overs and both those wickets are Hitman and Kohli, the game is all but over. The crucial thing is to get the playing 11 correct. I am still not sure Pant is the right guy at No 4. If playing Karthik or Jadhav thats the position they need to come at. Also dow e go with a extra Batsman in Jadeja keeping the Boult threat in mind ? Law of averages say Rohit is up for failure in semis. KL isn't great against moving ball yet so quality bowler like Boult will immensely trouble him. Time for Virat to stand up and deliver that big 100 now. Edited July 7, 2019 by DGBOSS Link to comment
DGBOSS Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 On 7/6/2019 at 2:10 AM, rkt.india said: How? Kohli has 408 runs in 7 games, Babar 467 in 8. Kohli has 5 50 plus scores, Babar 4. Babar has an SR of 87, Kohli has 96. Its the impact of one's game on the teams performance. A Batsman of Kohli's caliber you expect at least 3 100s . Its time it comes in the semis. Link to comment
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