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India Aim To Solve Middle-Order Woes In Sri Lanka Clash Ahead Of Semi-Final

India will have a final chance, ahead of the semi-finals, to reassess their problems and work on the middle-order in their final World Cup 2019 league match against an already knocked-out Sri Lanka at the Headingley in Leeds on Saturday. Despite contributing regularly in the World Cup 2019, MS Dhoni has found himself under constant criticism for his slow approach. Kedar Jadhav, who was in the thick of the things for similar reasons, was replaced by wicket-keeper batsman Dinesh Karthik in the previous match. But even his replacement Dinesh Karthik failed to impress his first World Cup match, leaving the middle-order woes unsolved.

So they might have a lot to play for as a pole position and a possible semi-final against a New Zealand team on a downward spiral will be more welcoming than facing a dangerous England which is on an upswing.

The middle-order puzzle has remained unsolved and it has increasingly looked that Indian team management has been heavily dependent on Plan A, which is success from their top-order. V

ice-captain Rohit Sharma, with 544 runs that include record-equalling four tons, has been the stand-out player and skipper Virat Kohli, with five half-centuries and 400 plus aggregate, has also had a good World Cup but perhaps not exceptional by his standards.

In this backdrop, there cannot be a better opposition than Sri Lanka for Dhoni to check his bat swing at the death overs when Lasith Malinga will be firing in at the block-hole or bowl his variation of slower deliveries.

Sri Lankan off-spinner Dhananjaya de Silva has been pretty economical, going at sub-5 rate in the matches that he has played. If Dhoni gets to play more balls during the middle overs against De Silva and score some runs, it will only boost his confidence.

In all the matches so far, Dhoni has managed only 47 runs in 81 balls against the spinners, his widely accepted weakness against the slower bowlers during middle overs coming to the fore.

Dimuth Karunaratne may fancy using his left-arm spinner Milinda Siriwardana knowing Dhoni's problems against slow left-arm orthodox bowlers.

But the Sri Lanka game is also one such encounter where Indians can breathe a bit easy and check out some other combinations, including giving the fiery Ravindra Jadeja, some game time ahead of the last four clash.

Jadeja is the only player, apart from the the just joined Mayank Agarwal, who hasn't yet got a game but it is unlikely to happen considering there are too many left-handers in the Lankan line-up.

Squads:

India: Virat Kohli (captain), Rohit Sharma, KL Rahul, Rishabh Pant, Hardik Pandya, Mahendra Singh Dhoni (wk), Dinesh Karthik, Yuzvendra Chahal, Mohammed Shami, Jasprit Bumrah, Bhuvneshwar Kumar, Kuldeep Yadav, Mayank Agarwal, Ravindra Jadeja, Kedar Jadha

Sri Lanka: Dimuth Karunaratne (captain), Kusal Mendis, Kusal Perera, Lahiru Thirimanne, Angelo Mathews, Lasith Malinga, Jeevan Mendis, Dhananjaya De Silva, Kasun Rajitha, Isuru Udana, Suranga Lakmal, Milinda Siriwardana, Jeffrey Vandersay, Thisara Perera, Avishka Fernando

Match Starts at 3 pm IST

 

 

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India has to play the most likely XI for the semi final to fine tune the batting. There is no way Australia is going to lose the match to SA.  EIther way we face England. Things that can be done to prepare better for the semi final

 

1) India should bat first. Not because we might lose.  There is a good chance SL could fold for 150 runs India will miss valuable batting practice.

2) By the look of it after Dhawan left, Rohit has shown more aggression early on in patches. Ideally KL Rahul should be the one who should assume the role going forward as he is a good power play hitter. 

3) Dhoni must come up the order and have a lot of game time. Probably at no.4 Issue with Dhoni is, his role is largely self-defined. Nobody tells him what they expect from him. Dhoni's self-defined role mainly benefits his own survival rather than team's cause

4) India should try this three in the back end   pant-Pandya-KKD one more time. If we engage in another battathon against England we need guys who can go after the bowling from the go. But if they think Jadhav should play for his part time offie then let Jadhav play. No point in playing KKD here and Jadhav in the semis

5) Open with Bhuvi and Shami for a change and reserve many overs for Bumrah with older ball. At best 2 overs from Bumrah upfront.

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23 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

India has to play the most likely XI for the semi final to fine tune the batting. There is no way Australia is going to lose the match to SA.  EIther way we face England. Things that can be done to prepare better for the semi final

 

1) India should bat first. Not because we might lose.  There is a good chance SL could fold for 150 runs India will miss valuable batting practice.

2) By the look of it after Dhawan left, Rohit has shown more aggression early on in patches. Ideally KL Rahul should be the one who should assume the role going forward as he is a good power play hitter. 

3) Dhoni must come up the order and have a lot of game time. Probably at no.4 Issue with Dhoni is, his role is largely self-defined. Nobody tells him what they expect from him. Dhoni's self-defined role mainly benefits his own survival rather than team's cause 

4) India should try this three in the back end   pant-Pandya-KKD one more time. If we engage in another battathon against England we need guys who can go after the bowling from the go. But if they think Jadhav should play for his part time offie then let Jadhav play. No point in playing KKD here and Jadhav in the semis

5) Open with Bhuvi and Shami for a change and reserve many overs for Bumrah with older ball. At best 2 overs from Bumrah upfront.

I think dhoni has got enough batting practice as it is. he has tuk-tuked around enough - we need to give more chances to other batsmen to bat more. In particular, depending on who TM wants to play in SFs, either DK or jadhav should bat at 4 and get as much practice as possible. Pant should also get enough batting practice since 2 innings is rather low before entering the pressure cooker scenario of SF. It may also not be a bad idea to give mayank a go and see how he does, since KLR has gotten enough batting practice. If mayank does well, he can be considered for opening with KLR dropping to the middle order and solidifying it.

 

Would like to see Rohit, Mayank, Pant, Jadhav/DK, Kohli, Dhoni, Pandya, Bhuvi, Shami, Bumrah, Chahal.

 

It would be an interesting and radical idea to have Bumrah bowl around 7 of his overs after the 30th over and see how the experiment works.

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38 minutes ago, Vijy said:

I think dhoni has got enough batting practice as it is. he has tuk-tuked around enough - we need to give more chances to other batsmen to bat more. In particular, depending on who TM wants to play in SFs, either DK or jadhav should bat at 4 and get as much practice as possible. Pant should also get enough batting practice since 2 innings is rather low before entering the pressure cooker scenario of SF. It may also not be a bad idea to give mayank a go and see how he does, since KLR has gotten enough batting practice. If mayank does well, he can be considered for opening with KLR dropping to the middle order and solidifying it.

 

Would like to see Rohit, Mayank, Pant, Jadhav/DK, Kohli, Dhoni, Pandya, Bhuvi, Shami, Bumrah, Chahal.

 

It would be an interesting and radical idea to have Bumrah bowl around 7 of his overs after the 30th over and see how the experiment works.

I think it is unlikely for DK/Jadhav to play in KOs. Yes, bowl out Shami and Chahal before 36th over, keep 6 overs each from Bumrah/Bhuvi towards the end. England is played two wrist spinners well and with Smith/Handscomb/Carey at 3/4/5, Australia will play the spinners well. India must play 3 pacers. 

Combination I (strong batting, slightly risky with 4.5 bowlers):
Rohit
Rahul/Mayank
Kohli
Mayank/Rahul
Pant

Pandya

Dhoni

Bhuvi

Chahal

Shami

Bumrah

Combination II (bowling is slightly better but weak batting)
Rohit

Rahul

Kohli

Dhoni

Pant

Pandya

Jadeja

Bhuvi

Kuldeep

Shami

Bumrah

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5 minutes ago, srh08 said:

I think it is unlikely for DK/Jadhav to play in KOs. Yes, bowl out Shami and Chahal before 36th over, keep 6 overs each from Bumrah/Bhuvi towards the end. England is played two wrist spinners well and with Smith/Handscomb/Carey at 3/4/5, Australia will play the spinners well. India must play 3 pacers. 

Combination I (strong batting, slightly risky with 4.5 bowlers):
Rohit
Rahul/Mayank
Kohli
Mayank/Rahul
Pant

Pandya

Dhoni

Bhuvi

Chahal

Shami

Bumrah

Combination II (bowling is slightly better but weak batting)
Rohit

Rahul

Kohli

Dhoni

Pant

Pandya

Jadeja

Bhuvi

Kuldeep

Shami

Bumrah

combination I bowling can easily fall apart. we will need 6th bowler coverage. since jaddu has not gotten a game so far, I don't think TM will risk him in KOs. either they will go back to jadhav, or play 5 bowlers only and unleash the fiery pace of captain brat.

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6 minutes ago, Vijy said:

combination I bowling can easily fall apart. we will need 6th bowler coverage. since jaddu has not gotten a game so far, I don't think TM will risk him in KOs. either they will go back to jadhav, or play 5 bowlers only and unleash the fiery pace of captain brat.

I agree, but I also think Jadhav gives a false sense of security as a 6th bowling option. I prefer Kohli/Rohit to bowl in a situation like the Pakistan game where a bowler has to walk off due to injury. If we do need a 6th bowler, we should play a proper bowler. Vijay Shankar is a big loss, thinking back. His kind of pace seems like the right approach to these wickets (especially, after over 25), since India's game with England.

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3 minutes ago, srh08 said:

I agree, but I also think Jadhav gives a false sense of security as a 6th bowling option. I prefer Kohli/Rohit to bowl in a situation like the Pakistan game where a bowler has to walk off due to injury. If we do need a 6th bowler, we should play a proper bowler. Vijay Shankar is a big loss, thinking back. His kind of pace seems like the right approach to these wickets (especially, after over 25), since India's game with England.

that is true but our only 6th bowling choices are jadhav and jaddu among the current squad, and neither inspire much confidence in one (or more) discipline out of two. rohit has stopped bowling a long time ago and kohli is utter tripe. thala is probably better than both but that's not saying much :)

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1 hour ago, Vijy said:

I think dhoni has got enough batting practice as it is. he has tuk-tuked around enough - we need to give more chances to other batsmen to bat more. In particular, depending on who TM wants to play in SFs, either DK or jadhav should bat at 4 and get as much practice as possible. Pant should also get enough batting practice since 2 innings is rather low before entering the pressure cooker scenario of SF. It may also not be a bad idea to give mayank a go and see how he does, since KLR has gotten enough batting practice. If mayank does well, he can be considered for opening with KLR dropping to the middle order and solidifying it.

 

Would like to see Rohit, Mayank, Pant, Jadhav/DK, Kohli, Dhoni, Pandya, Bhuvi, Shami, Bumrah, Chahal.

 

It would be an interesting and radical idea to have Bumrah bowl around 7 of his overs after the 30th over and see how the experiment works.

Arrey bhai Jharkhandi rest hone ka chance kahan dega? Usko dar hain ke Risabh agar wicket keeping karne lage. Yeh Bihari aur do teen saal khelega Ailaa ke tarah! At least Ailaa won't be able to critcize Thala for hanging on too long! :giggle:

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14 minutes ago, srh08 said:

I agree, but I also think Jadhav gives a false sense of security as a 6th bowling option. I prefer Kohli/Rohit to bowl in a situation like the Pakistan game where a bowler has to walk off due to injury. If we do need a 6th bowler, we should play a proper bowler. Vijay Shankar is a big loss, thinking back. His kind of pace seems like the right approach to these wickets (especially, after over 25), since India's game with England.

Agreed. Given that seamers are taking wickets more here than spinners. Also he still has the best economy in this world cup for India. 4.13. So many trundlers have done very well in this world cup.

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7 minutes ago, Vijy said:

that is true but our only 6th bowling choices are jadhav and jaddu among the current squad, and neither inspire much confidence in one (or more) discipline out of two. rohit has stopped bowling a long time ago and kohli is utter tripe. thala is probably better than both but that's not saying much :)

Come to think of it (I posted about weaknesses of each team in the other thread), there is no place in this team for Pant AND Dhoni. Only one can play to preserve the balance. It is a tough decision but benching Pant is probably India's best bet, given that Dhoni will not be benched. This is a more stable batting lineup (less firepower) with enough bowlers. Ask Jadhav to bat up the order (he does not have the power game but can rotate the strike well and can score at ~100 SR). KLR + Pandya can be the hitters and Dhoni the stabilizer if one of them falls.

Rohit

Mayank
Kohli

Jadhav

KLR

Pandya

Dhoni

Bhuvi

Shami

Chahal

Bumrah

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In world cup optics, perception is important. They clearly had a plan for Kuldeep, Chahal with small boundaries and fresh pitch. We may have to throw them off by juggling our batting line up.  England should worry about our strategies.

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14 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

In world cup optics, perception is important. They clearly had a plan for Kuldeep, Chahal with small boundaries and fresh pitch. We may have to throw them off by juggling our batting line up.  England should worry about our strategies.

Good points. 92 Deepak Patel. 96 - Srilanka openers, 03 - Symonds batting at 7, Dhoni promoting himself up in 2011, come to mind for strategies. England's tactics broke (likely for the rest of the tournament) India's twin wristies combination, which was a key for Indian bowling for the last 2 years.

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24 minutes ago, srh08 said:

Come to think of it (I posted about weaknesses of each team in the other thread), there is no place in this team for Pant AND Dhoni. Only one can play to preserve the balance. It is a tough decision but benching Pant is probably India's best bet, given that Dhoni will not be benched. This is a more stable batting lineup (less firepower) with enough bowlers. Ask Jadhav to bat up the order (he does not have the power game but can rotate the strike well and can score at ~100 SR). KLR + Pandya can be the hitters and Dhoni the stabilizer if one of them falls.

Rohit

Mayank
Kohli

Jadhav

KLR

Pandya

Dhoni

Bhuvi

Shami

Chahal

Bumrah

TM should have tried this combo at the start, not at the very end. they have been sending jadhav at 6 or 7 all the time, so he will not adjust to being shunted up the order to 4. our firepower in 300 chases will also diminish by dropping pant

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5 minutes ago, Vijy said:

TM should have tried this combo at the start, not at the very end. they have been sending jadhav at 6 or 7 all the time, so he will not adjust to being shunted up the order to 4. our firepower in 300 chases will also diminish by dropping pant

In that case (assuming Jadhav is needed for bowling and cannot bat at 4), it would be a toss up between Pant (ListA - avg@SR 30@105)  and Mayank (avg 49@101). With Pant we might get to 400 or be all out for 225. Its a hard decision

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2 minutes ago, srh08 said:

In that case (assuming Jadhav is needed for bowling and cannot bat at 4), it would be a toss up between Pant (ListA - avg@SR 30@105)  and Mayank (avg 49@101). With Pant we might get to 400 or be all out for 225. Its a hard decision

pant is bad at List A so far, but he has at least played a few matches in WC. whereas mayank will only have 1 innings at most before KOs. it is, of course, better to give as many players a go as possible without disrupting team too much to ensure that we are well prepped for SF

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A freeloader like dhoni who has been a burden for 5 years now,is like an antique machine shouldn't be dropped for this match or any match going forward atleast in this wc just to let the grey beard remain in groove,at his age people become rusty if they sit even for 25 overs, can't let dhoni walking straightway in KO match without much practice,maybe he gets inspired enough to have a grand farewell by winning us the cup(possibilities are too slim)

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As much as India needs a settled lineup, it also has to be realistic and test a few options today.

 

Hitman

Rahul

Kohli

Pant

Mayant

Pandya

Jadeja

Bhuvi

Chalal

Kuldeep

Shami

 

6 bowlers,  4 batsmen and 2 big hitters. Pant to wicketkeep.

 

Resting Dhoni and Bumrah opens the playing XI and gives Kohli the opportunity to test the bowlers and also gives Mayant a chance in case he is needed.

 

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2 minutes ago, SRT100 said:

As much as India needs a settled lineup, it also has to be realistic and test a few options today.

 

Hitman

Rahul

Kohli

Pant

Mayant

Pandya

Jadeja

Bhuvi

Chalal

Kuldeep

Shami

 

6 bowlers,  4 batsmen and 2 big hitters. Pant to wicketkeep.

 

Resting Dhoni and Bumrah opens the playing XI and gives Kohli the opportunity to test the bowlers and also gives Mayant a chance in case he is needed.

 

I think dhoni will never permit TM to "rest" him. he knows (rightly) that his status in the outside world is precarious, and he will not want to allow other challengers a chance to don the gloves.

Edited by Vijy

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2 minutes ago, SRT100 said:

As much as India needs a settled lineup, it also has to be realistic and test a few options today.

 

Hitman

Rahul

Kohli

Pant

Mayant

Pandya

Jadeja

Bhuvi

Chalal

Kuldeep

Shami

 

6 bowlers,  4 batsmen and 2 big hitters. Pant to wicketkeep.

 

Resting Dhoni and Bumrah opens the playing XI and gives Kohli the opportunity to test the bowlers and also gives Mayant a chance in case he is needed.

 

'Mayant' typo twice. Hope you were referring to Mayank and not Mayanti :giggle:

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3 minutes ago, bowl_out said:

'Mayant' typo twice. Hope you were referring to Mayank and not Mayanti :giggle:

maybe they should play both mayanti and our ATG allrounder, stuart terrence roger binny in the middle order. :giggle:

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Rest Bumrah, drop Dhoni or at least claim that he is rested, give Chahal a break

 

Rohit

Rahul

Kohli

Mayank

Pant

DK

Pandya

Jadeja

Bhuvi 

Kuldeep

Shami

 

Power packed batting line up. Bat first score big to win.. 

And then hope Aus lose to SA, so we can finish top of the table and face NZ in the semis

 

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27 minutes ago, bowl_out said:

Rest Bumrah, drop Dhoni or at least claim that he is rested, give Chahal a break

 

Rohit

Rahul

Kohli

Mayank

Pant

DK

Pandya

Jadeja

Bhuvi 

Kuldeep

Shami

 

Power packed batting line up. Bat first score big to win.. 

And then hope Aus lose to SA, so we can finish top of the table and face NZ in the semis

 

Just wish one of the top 7 could bowl

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6 minutes ago, srh08 said:

Just wish one of the top 7 could bowl

Yeah, but I don't want to include Jadhav just for that. I'd have liked another chance for Shankar if he was still in the squad for the same reason 

 

The other alternative is to drop DK and play an additional bowler

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8 minutes ago, srh08 said:

Just wish one of the top 7 could bowl

The time for these lazy guys to practice bowling is during meaningless bilateral tournaments.

 

Hitman/Kohli/ and all the others should bowl a few overs here and there. What is the point of winning these irrelevant games.

 

 

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2 minutes ago, SRT100 said:

The time for these lazy guys to practice bowling is during meaningless bilateral tournaments.

 

Hitman/Kohli/ and all the others should bowl a few overs here and there. What is the point of winning these irrelevant games.

 

 

to boost their records, especially our kaptaan.

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33 minutes ago, Vijy said:

to boost their records, especially our kaptaan.

In fact for today's game I wouldnt mind resting Shami as well. Get Jedhav in his place to bowl his 10 overs.

 

 

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14 minutes ago, SRT100 said:

In fact for today's game I wouldnt mind resting Shami as well. Get Jedhav in his place to bowl his 10 overs.

 

 

against the lankans he would probably go for 100 runs since some of them play spin well. it would be entertaining as heck though, especially if he opens the bowling.

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Just now, Vijy said:

against the lankans he would probably go for 100 runs since some of them play spin well. it would be entertaining as heck though, especially if he opens the bowling.

Jhadav is never gonna play for India again

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I hope Kuldeep is back. Kohli should back the wristys in the KOs. It's this combo that has transformed Indian bowling attack in last 2 years, let's back them to win the World Cup.

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4 hours ago, vvvslaxman said:

India Aim To Solve Middle-Order Woes In Sri Lanka Clash Ahead Of Semi-Final

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Now that qualification is sealed, pressure off I expect the king of soft runs to pay tribute to his idol Amla on the day of latter's final ODI. In fact both Amla and Kohli should do well today, they live for such matches, pointless stats boosting guarantee. Finisher too will be helped along by his chela Thisara Perera. I don't care about this encounter, my eyes will be on the Manchester one, backing the Saffers all the way !!!

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1 minute ago, Gollum said:

Now that qualification is sealed, pressure off I expect the king of soft runs to pay tribute to his idol Amla on the day of latter's final ODI. In fact both Amla and Kohli should do well today, they live for such matches, pointless stats boosting guarantee. Finisher too will be helped along by his chela Thisara Perera. I don't care about this encounter, my eyes will be on the Manchester one, backing the Saffers all the way !!!

and slinga will probably go lenient on the team to maximize his future IPL booty and his growing tummy. I don't think omla will do that well against oz - his reflexes are not what they were to handle behrendorff and stoinis, let alone starc and cummins.

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1 minute ago, Vijy said:

I don't think omla will do that well against oz - his reflexes are not what they were to handle behrendorff and stoinis, let alone starc and cummins.

Then his apprentice will make up for that deficit against the Lankans. You can see the love and respect in the eyes. 

 

Image result for kohli amla

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3 minutes ago, Gollum said:

Then his apprentice will make up for that deficit against the Lankans. You can see the love and respect in the eyes. 

 

Image result for kohli amla

kohli looks so weedy and old in this pic. he also looks as though he is close to the zenith of his happiness (or an orgasm) just by shaking amla's hand.

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5 hours ago, vvvslaxman said:

India has to play the most likely XI for the semi final to fine tune the batting. There is no way Australia is going to lose the match to SA.  EIther way we face England. Things that can be done to prepare better for the semi final

 

1) India should bat first. Not because we might lose.  There is a good chance SL could fold for 150 runs India will miss valuable batting practice.

2) By the look of it after Dhawan left, Rohit has shown more aggression early on in patches. Ideally KL Rahul should be the one who should assume the role going forward as he is a good power play hitter. 

3) Dhoni must come up the order and have a lot of game time. Probably at no.4 Issue with Dhoni is, his role is largely self-defined. Nobody tells him what they expect from him. Dhoni's self-defined role mainly benefits his own survival rather than team's cause

4) India should try this three in the back end   pant-Pandya-KKD one more time. If we engage in another battathon against England we need guys who can go after the bowling from the go. But if they think Jadhav should play for his part time offie then let Jadhav play. No point in playing KKD here and Jadhav in the semis

5) Open with Bhuvi and Shami for a change and reserve many overs for Bumrah with older ball. At best 2 overs from Bumrah upfront.

actually i would say bat second even if SL sets an achievable total it would go a long way. 

Edited by jf1gp_1

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9 minutes ago, asterix said:

No need for too much experiments. Keep the winning momentum... Would like Mayank to open with Rohit... And 2 spinners.

How does Mayank opening not qualify as experiment or gamble? you are handing a guy his debut 1 game ahead of WC semis. 

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9 minutes ago, jf1gp_1 said:

How does Mayank opening not qualify as experiment or gamble? you are handing a guy his debut 1 game ahead of WC semis. 

I said “not too much exoeriment”... Little experiment is allowed. Mayank playing is same gamble as KKD or Pant playing suddenly... It’s better he plays against SL rather playing directly in SF after continuous mediocre performances of KLR...

 

Need solid runs scored by the top order as can’t trust Dhoni and company at the lower order...

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4 hours ago, srh08 said:

I think it is unlikely for DK/Jadhav to play in KOs. Yes, bowl out Shami and Chahal before 36th over, keep 6 overs each from Bumrah/Bhuvi towards the end. England is played two wrist spinners well and with Smith/Handscomb/Carey at 3/4/5, Australia will play the spinners well. India must play 3 pacers. 

Combination I (strong batting, slightly risky with 4.5 bowlers):
Rohit
Rahul/Mayank
Kohli
Mayank/Rahul
Pant

Pandya

Dhoni

Bhuvi

Chahal

Shami

Bumrah

Combination II (bowling is slightly better but weak batting)
Rohit

Rahul

Kohli

Dhoni

Pant

Pandya

Jadeja

Bhuvi

Kuldeep

Shami

Bumrah

Just play Jadega in place of Dhoni in the 1st combination. Its no.7 .

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10 minutes ago, beetle said:

Send dhoni in the last over.

Let him play his 5 dots and one six with a SR of 100 ....so that his fans can dance in ecstasy .:dancing2:

 

 

Lol!! ESPN article has advise for SriLanka....bowl hard lengths in to his body.....BS any length is hard length for him now a days.

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