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1 minute ago, Pollack said:

India, a country with population in billions with arguably biggest Cricket fanbase (crazy or casual). BCCI richest board minting loads of money. Decent infrastructure and reach within the country in this decade.

Cricketers are like treated like Gods and paid in millions. Taking into view the above, it's amazing to see people satisfied with India reaching semi finals. Ridiculous. :facepalm:

Why are we satisfied with mediocrity?

That’s the mindset and culture to be honest don’t be surprised if 2011 WC win would be repeated as a consolation.

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16 minutes ago, Kiraisjustice said:

Who is satisfied? Maybe you should put your reading glasses on to see so many threads about people gutted

This forum is on rant mode even when we win. :phehe: News media, social media is full of how we played good cricket and it's disheartening to lose but it's just a game. While I am happy that Indian fans are maturing rather than burning Cricketers houses, I also fear Cricketers are taking this for granted. They are not paid in millions to lose like losers in knockouts. After CT finals they should have had some shame and determined to win this World Cup not repeating the same mistakes.

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12 minutes ago, Pollack said:

India, a country with population in billions with arguably biggest Cricket fanbase (crazy or casual). BCCI richest board minting loads of money. Decent infrastructure and reach within the country in this decade.

Cricketers are like treated like Gods and paid in millions. Taking into view the above, it's amazing to see people satisfied with India reaching semi finals. Ridiculous. :facepalm:

Why are we satisfied with mediocrity?

This is precisely the problem. Kohli and Dhoni are treated like Gods by the selectors and look where we ended up.

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This is the case everywhere. Mediocrity is abundant in all aspects in this country. You perform just on par, you become complacent and satisfied. And the Indians on social media are praising saying win or lose we will continue to support Kohli and his team etc. Not much criticism on Instagram .

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29 minutes ago, Kiraisjustice said:

Who is satisfied? Maybe you should put your reading glasses on to see so many threads about people gutted

And you think these opinions matter?? Not a leaf will turn in BCCI. We will see the same old same old repeat all over again. 

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The thing is IPL has changed everything. It is the biggest curse happened to Indian cricket. Because of IPL indian public mellowed down a lot as they started worshiping foreign players too. So even if India plays badly, they do not react strongly. There are no longer crazy passionate fans now in india. Sometimes you do need to throw bottles and burn effigies otherwise these over-paid players do not bother to perform as they are getting the money.

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33 minutes ago, Pollack said:

India, a country with population in billions with arguably biggest Cricket fanbase (crazy or casual). BCCI richest board minting loads of money. Decent infrastructure and reach within the country in this decade.

Cricketers are like treated like Gods and paid in millions. Taking into view the above, it's amazing to see people satisfied with India reaching semi finals. Ridiculous. :facepalm:

Why are we satisfied with mediocrity?

We are not !!!!! ANyone who says we should be proud of reaching Semis shud be kicked hard on backside.

We play just 1 game and even in that we are SH**

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17 minutes ago, nevada said:

This is precisely the problem. Kohli and Dhoni are treated like Gods by the selectors and look where we ended up.

Indians always look for a hero in every field.

In politics a leader who can magically solve all the problems.

In sports a player who can win all the matches single handedly.

Then he becomes a demigod who can do no wrong. 

No concept of team work and collective responsibility.

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35 minutes ago, Pollack said:

India, a country with population in billions with arguably biggest Cricket fanbase (crazy or casual). BCCI richest board minting loads of money. Decent infrastructure and reach within the country in this decade.

Cricketers are like treated like Gods and paid in millions. Taking into view the above, it's amazing to see people satisfied with India reaching semi finals. Ridiculous. :facepalm:

Why are we satisfied with mediocrity?

of course not satisfied but the bulk of armchair fans are what they are, braindead in terms of cricket on display, 4s, 6s, 100s, wkts, that's all the want, wallow in grief after losing, but come next match cheer 'Dhoni, Dhoni, Dhoni!!'

Most them think Bumrah is World's fastest bowler, most of them think Kohli is 10x Williamson, most them think Pandya can smash 100m sixes at will, most couldn't be able to tell difference between swing and cross seam bowling

 

On the pitiful state of cricket in India that after so much resources and spread of the game:

 

1. Where is India's 150 kph bowler?

   Aus has Starc, NZ has Lockie, Eng has Archer and Wood, SA has Rabada, Pak has 35 year old Wahab, 

  As brilliant as Bumrah has been, that 150 kph bowler makes a huge difference cleaning up lower order/tailender wickets

 

2. After over 10 IPL seasons, India haven't found half decent batsmen able to power the ball to sixes, since Yuvraj and younger Dhoni, likes of Pandya and Pant are just pretenders

 

3. Lack of game awareness is probably behind only to likes WI and Pak.

   NZ and Aus always seems to judge and play to the conditions

 

Like in most areas of field in India, quality, focus, commitment and accountability will ensure India never really dominates the game of cricket.  

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People congratulating the team are mostly doing it as part of coping this upset loss. None of them would have said we achieved enough, until today. And the Indian team does get affected by losses and do make losses. After 2007, it changed the coach, kicked out some non performers and changed the captain as we clearly underperformed. In 2015, Australia were a better side and were favorites. After the 2017 champions trophy, the coach, and the spin combo was changed. Bowlers got more disciplined with bowling no balls, and Yuvraj was dropped. After today, I’m sure we will see a different middle order soon with dhoni, Karthik, Jadhav gone and pant, Gill, mayank, pandya, taking more responsibility. 

And it’s the extreme reactions that r very typical of countries that r not fully developed. The burning of the effigies, stoning players houses, conducting mass prayers for the teams win, etc in my opinion r as bad as treating every celebrity like a god and pouring milk over idols statues. India has gotten better at this which is a great thing and shows the country’s progress. 

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Calm down its just a game. India actually overachieved if you keep in mind the limitations of the batsmen. They were fortunate to get some nice slow tracks that made it feel just like home. Indian batsmen, even today, are vulnerable when facing a decent pace attack on a pitch that has some juice on it. 

 

Not having to play NZ, Pak picking Hasan Ali ahead of Shaheen, Nabi miscalculating the chase in the last few overs and Aus bowling Coulter Nile ahead of Behrendorff are all little things that simply delayed the inevitable. 

 

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1 hour ago, Kiraisjustice said:

Who is satisfied? Maybe you should put your reading glasses on to see so many threads about people gutted

Those are all fake. Only this one is real.

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12 minutes ago, JourneyMan said:

Calm down its just a game. India actually overachieved if you keep in mind the limitations of the batsmen. They were fortunate to get some nice slow tracks that made it feel just like home. Indian batsmen, even today, are vulnerable when facing a decent pace attack on a pitch that has some juice on it. 

 

Not having to play NZ, Pak picking Hasan Ali ahead of Shaheen, Nabi miscalculating the chase in the last few overs and Aus bowling Coulter Nile ahead of Behrendorff are all little things that simply delayed the inevitable. 

 

Today's indian batsmen can't even play spin. They are the worst players of spin in the world.  India had best players of spin now they are worst players of spin. They can only play straight balls. Only department india has improved is fielding and running singles and couples.

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10 minutes ago, Mirpur express said:

Pakistan would have also smashed India had we batted first. Lol.

 

Indian team is nothing.

 

So would Zimbabwe but they didn’t qualify either  :phehe: so next time your team tours Zimbabwe you guys can decide who would potentially beat India.

 

Also don’t forget your other  padosis who might really kick your ass as they might get rid of Gulbadan without whom they were rolling you over 

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5 minutes ago, maniac said:

So would Zimbabwe but they didn’t qualify either  :phehe: so next time your team tours Zimbabwe you guys can decide who would potentially beat India.

 

Also don’t forget your other  padosis who might really kick your ass as they might get rid of Gulbadan without whom they were rolling you over 

 

I'm enjoying this

 

If Australia had Warner and Smith you wouldn't have won test series in Australia. Chalo wapas karo beta.

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Just now, Mirpur express said:

 

I'm enjoying this

 

If Australia had Warner and Smith you wouldn't have won test series in Australia. Chalo wapas karo beta.

Lol how is that the same thing? We won in Australia- reality 

 

You said had you qualified you would beat India- wet dream

 

Farak smajhte ho dhakkan?

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Here is another thing, if Kohli's doesn't resign after this epic failure.

Then India as a cricket team will never advance or progress.

 

Him not resigning basically sends message that reaching SF was good achievement. 

Didn't happen after 2015 failure. 

 

Players on head is stuck up their own.....

 

Same goes for coach and selectors. 

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The reality is most of those Indians on the team don't care.

Kohli said the team has a bad 45 minutes. Life goes on type attitude. Time to statpad in IPL.

Can't win them all type mentality.

Pathetic

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I am absolutely amazed at how the social media and Twitterattis are reacting to this defeat !

They are so cool and recating as if we won the cup, how great we performed and what a champion team we are!

In reality ,getting into the semis of an already depleted field (cricketing nations I.e) is a nothing achievement for the world's richest cricket board, highest paid cricketers and the only sport which is followed religiously. 

Now please dont compare with England ,there priorities lie in different sports and they win plenty of Olympic medals we can dream .

This team doesn't deserve any sort of felicitation !

Any proper cricketing fan knew this team will blow up in one of the KOs and it happened ,only deluded fools thought of this team as world beaters 

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3 hours ago, Pollack said:

This forum is on rant mode even when we win. :phehe: News media, social media is full of how we played good cricket and it's disheartening to lose but it's just a game. While I am happy that Indian fans are maturing rather than burning Cricketers houses, I also fear Cricketers are taking this for granted. They are not paid in millions to lose like losers in knockouts. After CT finals they should have had some shame and determined to win this World Cup not repeating the same mistakes.

Dont invest so much emotionally to this team.

I learnt it the hard way ,now it doesn't matter too much.when the team itself is deluded and not ready to acknowledge its weakness why are we so bothered ?

I think kohli himself isnt too much into these ICC tournaments ,he only wants to excel in the tests and you see him  go gaga whenever the test season arrives 

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3 minutes ago, Adi BB said:

I am absolutely amazed at how the social media and Twitterattis are reacting to this defeat !

They are so cool and recating as if we won the cup, how great we performed and what a champion team we are!

In reality ,getting into the semis of an already depleted field (cricketing nations I.e) is a nothing achievement for the world's richest cricket board, highest paid cricketers and the only sport which is followed religiously. 

Now please dont compare with England ,there priorities lie in different sports and they win plenty of Olympic medals we can dream .

This team doesn't deserve any sort of felicitation !

Any proper cricketing fan knew this team will blow up in one of the KOs and it happened ,only deluded fools thought of this team as world beaters 

I think the popular media doesn’t show tweets of the actual fans who are disappointed, some fake Dhoni PR bots.

 

Surprisingly cheerleaders like cskbuzz and sportstak have said India looked one dimensional and kind of criticized Dhoni. 

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1 minute ago, Adi BB said:

Dont invest so much emotionally to this team.

I learnt it the hard way ,now it doesn't matter too much.when the team itself is deluded and not ready to acknowledge its weakness why are we so bothered ?

I think kohli himself isnt too much into these ICC tournaments ,he only wants to excel in the tests and you see him  go gaga whenever the test season arrives 

Lol no, he goes gaga because he is winning there and has a good team.

 

 

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4 minutes ago, maniac said:

I think the popular media doesn’t show tweets of the actual fans who are disappointed, some fake Dhoni PR bots.

 

Surprisingly cheerleaders like cskbuzz and sportstak have said India looked one dimensional and kind of criticized Dhoni. 

But my friends (hardly knowledgeable cricket fans but still fans) and relatives posting on FB as if India won the damn thing ?? It's a common trend I am seeing nowadays, same happened after the 2016 Wt20 exit 

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13 minutes ago, Adi BB said:

I am absolutely amazed at how the social media and Twitterattis are reacting to this defeat !

They are so cool and recating as if we won the cup, how great we performed and what a champion team we are!

In reality ,getting into the semis of an already depleted field (cricketing nations I.e) is a nothing achievement for the world's richest cricket board, highest paid cricketers and the only sport which is followed religiously. 

Now please dont compare with England ,there priorities lie in different sports and they win plenty of Olympic medals we can dream .

This team doesn't deserve any sort of felicitation !

Any proper cricketing fan knew this team will blow up in one of the KOs and it happened ,only deluded fools thought of this team as world beaters 

Spot on. Praising millionaire players & coaches for doing the bare minimum of reaching the semis (only 10 teams of which half are useless)  just smacks of mediocrity. 

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One has to see what really was our preparation prior to the WC? F'ing two months of Tamasha league where they gave it their all to win side money. While teams like pak/BD/WI/etc were playing matches in alien condition to get prepared. 

 

Our players were getting small niggles/extra pressure to do well in IPL. Mental fatigue is a real thing.

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1 hour ago, Adi BB said:

But my friends (hardly knowledgeable cricket fans but still fans) and relatives posting on FB as if India won the damn thing ?? It's a common trend I am seeing nowadays, same happened after the 2016 Wt20 exit 

lol my fb feed is full of people saying pitch conditions changed overnight and saying no one person to blame, go get them in 2023.

 :facepalm:

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4 hours ago, maniac said:

Lol how is that the same thing? We won in Australia- reality 

 

You said had you qualified you would beat India- wet dream

 

Farak smajhte ho dhakkan?

 

Lol. I'm sure Indian have many experience of wet dream because that is only time they spend with hot woman.

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5 hours ago, Ranvir said:

Well it's like this for the England football team. They get treated like heroes for getting to the semi finals of the World Cup or European Cup. What's worse is that they continue to make documentaries of these 'achievements' 20 years later.

 

Only difference is that England is competing against 32 very very strong teams in 90 minute matches where a freak kick or a pass can eliminate anyone on anyday.

 

In comparison we are competing in a sport where there are couple of strong teams namely 2 to be precise in Eng and Aus

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7 hours ago, Pollack said:

India, a country with population in billions with arguably biggest Cricket fanbase (crazy or casual). BCCI richest board minting loads of money. Decent infrastructure and reach within the country in this decade.

Cricketers are like treated like Gods and paid in millions. Taking into view the above, it's amazing to see people satisfied with India reaching semi finals. Ridiculous. :facepalm:

Why are we satisfied with mediocrity?

Because we have chalta hai attitude, easily get complacent and hero worshipping gives these a-holes a sense of entitlement. Why do you think people like Ailaa, Thala stick around beyond their sell date. If it was England or Aus, these morons would be banished before they quit on their own.

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15 years ago you only had WC and ICC knockout Tropy. Now you have IPL every year, T20 WC, CT and the  WC. They don't really care much about WC. Besides Kohli had already won the WC, so he probably doesn't feel the same way.

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11 hours ago, dragonfly said:

Embarrassing to lose to a country with a population of 5 million. Cricket isn't even their first game.

Add to that NZ were in terrible form coming into this game.

One of the worst losses, even bigger than CT17 as that pak team was better than this nz one.

Thank our luck Smith/Warner were not there during the test series, otherwise it would have been one whole year of embarrassing cricket

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8 hours ago, Adi BB said:

I am absolutely amazed at how the social media and Twitterattis are reacting to this defeat !

They are so cool and recating as if we won the cup, how great we performed and what a champion team we are!

In reality ,getting into the semis of an already depleted field (cricketing nations I.e) is a nothing achievement for the world's richest cricket board, highest paid cricketers and the only sport which is followed religiously. 

Now please dont compare with England ,there priorities lie in different sports and they win plenty of Olympic medals we can dream .

This team doesn't deserve any sort of felicitation !

Any proper cricketing fan knew this team will blow up in one of the KOs and it happened ,only deluded fools thought of this team as world beaters 

The social media has helped players' PR teams to spin the narratives. You just need some memes and blind fans will keep repeating and sharing. There is a huge PR effort for players like Dhoni and Kohli and the narratives everywhere, from main stream media channels to social media is strictly being controlled. 

 

Welcome to the world of unlimited internet access, as internet has boomed in India (and the world), the narratives can easily be planned and controlled. The reality and facts does not matter at all, whether it is politics or sports. you make memes and catch phrases and bullet lists  people blindly repeat and spread it everywhere

 

Someone like Trump would never have won before this age. Facts dont matter in this world, it is the spread of cult like thinking which can be shared in a click using memes and tweets which matter. We are all being socially engineered in this world and being controlled by businesses, PR teams and dedicated personals involved in spreading narratives. Welcome to the modern world of technology

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7 hours ago, shami_123 said:

Only difference is that England is competing against 32 very very strong teams in 90 minute matches where a freak kick or a pass can eliminate anyone on anyday.

 

In comparison we are competing in a sport where there are couple of strong teams namely 2 to be precise in Eng and Aus

True, but England do not get to these semi finals by playing great football, they usually have a huge amount of luck (Euro 96) or face weak teams (World Cup 1990 and 2018).

England got a huge parade in central London after finishing fourth in the 1990 World Cup. However the documentaries are the worst.

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