Reddysaab Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 (edited) the issue is Kohli does not want to encourage any new youngsters bcos he does not want to lose his super stardom. he is a egoistic who would not be where he is today if not for MSD backing him and giving him so many chances. Ganguly and then Later Dhoni prospered by backing and grooming youngsters. kohli does not want to pay it forward. in india we have so much under 21 talent like shubam gill etc, but still kohli selects old washed up mercenaries and ugly ducklings like rayudu, jadav etc shankar bcos he does not want another superstar in team. for india cricket to prosper , the kohli monopoly has to end Edited July 12, 2019 by beetle Real McCoy and beetle 1 1 Link to comment
Reddysaab Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 9 hours ago, vijay50 said: Kohli will play better if relieved of captaincy burden kohli is such a self obsessed, narcicisstic, ego megalo maniac that he will throw a major hissy fit if fired from captaincy and go into depression. he might even slit his wrists. this is what the pussies at bcci are afraid of and thats why they are keeping the mental ego maniac as captain Real McCoy, nevada and Shaz1 1 1 1 Link to comment
express bowling Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 3 hours ago, sarcastic said: That's because he blossomed more in the last few years reaching his peak potential and that coincided with his captaincy term. In this case, correlation does not imply causation. But it shows that there is no evidence to suggest that quitting captaincy would improve his batting ( which was the point I was countering ) Link to comment
R!TTER Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 13 hours ago, rangeelaraja said: Looking vulnerable and being vulnerable is not the same. Kohli is a vulnerable bunny in BIG games and clutch situations - where Smith is KING He is vulnerable & weaknesses have been exploited, it's just that he has more discipline & patience than Kohli - hence his awesome record in tests! Link to comment
beetle Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 I feel we have already seen the best of kohli. Some get distracted by fame etc. This guy has got distracted by his brand. Link to comment
Vilander Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 14 hours ago, rangeelaraja said: He got Kumble booted out ( can an Australian or English captain get their coach booted in this manner ? ) because Bewda's style was preferred over Kumble's discipline and method. this is the worst legacy that Kohli will carry, for ever he will fail to be considered alongside Sachin and Dravid in terms of integrity because of this. Kumble would have planned a CT 2017 and WC win for him if he had swallowed his pride and did the hard yards. Great waste of god given right to rule absolutely, but then its apparent absolute power corrupts absolutely. saik, Under_Score, Reddysaab and 2 others 5 Link to comment
Vilander Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 7 minutes ago, beetle said: I feel we have already seen the best of kohli. Some get distracted by fame etc. This guy has got distracted by his brand. incorrect, he will become a monster in the coming two seasons great batsmen become beasts between 32 - 35, his best years are ahead of him. With Pant shaping up and Puj/Rohit for bulwark in their formats and Indian pace and spin dominance - India will absolutely dominate the world over but then they are bilaterals and next WC even if won, has already been done better in 2011 by the great Sachin, stoic Dhoni and heroic Yuvi cannot be outdone not that trio. Kohli missed his unique chance to etch his dominance forever by winning in England. Cricketics and diehardpacer 2 Link to comment
beetle Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 @Vilander I hope that happens... Link to comment
R!TTER Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, Vilander said: incorrect, he will become a monster in the coming two seasons great batsmen become beasts between 32 - 35, his best years are ahead of him. You wanna bet we've already seen the best of him? And no not every batter has the same peak, that's just not true! Reddysaab 1 Link to comment
haiwan Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 and the worst thing which he did was marrying that bollywood fake women sharma with lip surgery. Now be ready for more brand building and maintenance and pakistani/foreign appeasement. I Wish kohli would have seriously considered the marriage proposal of that british women cricketer even though she said that in excitement. Reddysaab and Vilander 2 Link to comment
Nikola Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 14 hours ago, Sean Bradley said: The best Clutch player from India was out injured in the 2nd game, if anyone was expecting Kohli to be a clutch player after his past travesties is making a fool of himself. Chootiya was again found laughing around in the dressing room when we were 92/6 doing a bit of drama with Bewda in his wet panties. In the history of Indian cricket the best batman in our team was never the best player to captain the side, be it Gavaskar, Tendulkar, or Kohli. Dhawan is no clutch player. His most runs come in league phase not knockouts. diehardpacer 1 Link to comment
Sandeep99 Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 21 hours ago, Ranvir said: Using everyone's logic and short term memory Jadeja > Kohli. I'm sure Jadeja would average 40+ if given consistent run at #4/5. He already showed he's a much better pressure player than Rat could ever be. I'd take 40+ overall and pressure player over 60 overall (in shtupid bi-laterals that no one gives a fck about) and 1 or 2 runs in all important knockouts. Link to comment
Sandeep99 Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 I think the best clutch players India ever had were Kris Srikanth, Gautam Gambhir, MS Dhoni (before he went downhill), Suresh Raina, Sachin Tendulkar. Rest are all imposters and not even worth talking about. They can all go to hell. Link to comment
vijay50 Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 21 hours ago, express bowling said: Kohli's stats as a batsman is far better as captain than as an ordinary player. So what. He will not win you a single ICC trophy. As a captain still he did not score in knockouts, so doesn’t matter if he is captain or not. Link to comment
express bowling Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 2 hours ago, vijay50 said: So what. He will not win you a single ICC trophy. As a captain still he did not score in knockouts, so doesn’t matter if he is captain or not. I don't disagree with that point. I disagreed with the point that Kohli will score more if he gives up captaincy. Link to comment
Cricketics Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 12 hours ago, express bowling said: But it shows that there is no evidence to suggest that quitting captaincy would improve his batting ( which was the point I was countering ) Yes, Kohli can't bat better than what he I s doing now. He had more pressure handling Anderson over after over, in a country where he knew had done zilch before this tour o f England. That was. playing more on his mind when eh toured, than the failures of not scoring. in a knock. out. game. I know World Cup is a big stage, but doesn't mean Kohli lost his batting MOJO because of captaincy. I think. overall, Kohli will match what he is doing now days, which is piling runs, he still scored lot of runs in this world cup even though did not click in semis. What can make a difference is just having that mental peace going into a knock out game without captaincy pressure. That is only valid for knock out games. Overall, he was scoring runs, and will continue to score runs as is. Link to comment
Vilander Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 11 hours ago, R!TTER said: we've already seen the best of him? And no not every batter has the same peak, that's just not true! do you have some eyesight problem? go read the comment again. Link to comment
Vilander Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 10 hours ago, haiwan said: and the worst thing which he did was marrying that bollywood fake women sharma with lip surgery. Now be ready for more brand building and maintenance and pakistani/foreign appeasement. I Wish kohli would have seriously considered the marriage proposal of that british women cricketer even though she said that in excitement. duck face has had a negative vegan actor influence it appears and angers the entitled fans . but hey he likes her and thats his life. Link to comment
R!TTER Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 1 hour ago, Vilander said: do you have some eyesight problem? go read the comment again. So you can't form proper sentences & I have an eyesight problem 13 hours ago, Vilander said: incorrect, he will become a monster in the coming two seasons great batsmen become beasts between 32 - 35, his best years are ahead of him Switchblade 1 Link to comment
Vilander Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 3 hours ago, R!TTER said: So you can't form proper sentences & I have an eyesight problem he is not ' not every batter'. He is a legit great already, there is a difference. I am certain he will have his best years ahead of him as he breaks many records in cricket, similar to what Sacin had. Link to comment
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