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Virat Kohli wanted to bat at #4 in Semi Finals.

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https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/sports/cricket/icc-world-cup/icc-world-cup-team-india-considered-virat-kohli-at-no-4-slot/articleshow/70186364.cms

 

When conditions got difficult he wanted to bat at #4. You are world's best batsman and already batting at #3 not opener still you want to hide from swing and new ball? That was perfect time for him to step up and prove why he is considered as better viv richards. 

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4 minutes ago, prudent_kreeda said:

And which Bali ka bakra  was to play at #3 ? 

To hide Dhongi , they made Pant & Pandya bakras, guys who do not have the game or experience to play  at 5 for 3 situation and ball is moving !

That was going to be my exact question. Obviously Dhoni is not going to be that sucker. Pandya is obviously not going to be that guy as that would have been the dumbest move to send him at 3 in swinging conditions. my bet was it would have been the 2 most dispensable guys in the team DK or Pant

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1 minute ago, Nikola said:

No way. He wanted to bat at 3 for whole worldcup when soft/easy runs were possible to score. When conditions got difficult he wanted to hide at #4.

Not disputing bro. I feel instead of searching for no. 4 till the very last moment, he should have batted at 4 with Dhoni at 5 to strengthen middle order from start of WC. Giving license to Pant and Pandya at 6/7/8

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1 minute ago, prudent_kreeda said:

And which Bali ka bakra  was to play at #3 ? 

To hide Dhongi , they made Pant & Pandya bakras, guys who do not have the game or experience to play  at 5 for 3 situation and ball is moving !

Instead of strategizing the right tactics with batting coach Bangar who having batted as a Test match opener in England knows a thing or two about surviving tough swinging conditions , coward Kohli wanted to send a sacrificial lamb into the line of fire. He could have brainstormed even with bewda who has batted as an opener in England IIRC and has county cricket experience too. After calculating the potential damage to his image, he must have backed out of that decision. What a gutless, selfish prick he is! People bash Imran Khan a lot and yes he has flaws but in the 1992 world cup he promoted himself to 3 and did a pretty decent job of holding up one end as his team had a very weak batting lineup. Leaders step up to the challenge and take it head on, they don't hide behind other's backs.

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1 minute ago, prudent_kreeda said:

     It was not planning error. Both VK & MSD did not want to play in that scenario. So 2 bakras were identified.

Anyways they used 3 bali ka bakras for Best finisher lol

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1 hour ago, Nikola said:

 

 

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/sports/cricket/icc-world-cup/icc-world-cup-team-india-considered-virat-kohli-at-no-4-slot/articleshow/70186364.cms

 

When conditions got difficult he wanted to bat at #4. You are world's best batsman and already batting at #3 not opener still you want to hide from swing and new ball? That was perfect time for him to step up and prove why he is considered as better viv richards. 

Pls use some sense. Dont talk like the idiots across our border.

If this is true then it was right decision. If this is true, He was trying to do that to prevent the MO crumble. I have not seen the video u posted but wonder why he did not do that !!!!!

 

 

 

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5 minutes ago, DGBOSS said:

Pls use some sense. Dont talk like the idiots across our border.

If this is true then it was right decision. If this is true, He was trying to do that to prevent the MO crumble. I have not seen the video u posted but wonder why he did not do that !!!!!

 

 

 

Lol you are world's best batsman how can you prevent middle order crumble by sending two inexperienced player who have no experience of playing in such situation? if you wanted to do that then you should have done when worldcup started not directly in semis. When you think you can get out early then there is battle lost.

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4 minutes ago, Nikola said:

Lol you are world's best batsman how can you prevent middle order crumble by sending two inexperienced player who have no experience of playing in such situation? if you wanted to do that then you should have done when worldcup started not directly in semis. When you think you can get out early then there is battle lost.

     I can understand if he thinks that way post 2014 when he was clueless in England. But being one of the best player around and

     after  conquering english conditions in 2018 , if you cannot stand up  in 2019  , who else can ?

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12 minutes ago, Nikola said:

Lol you are world's best batsman how can you prevent middle order crumble by sending two inexperienced player who have no experience of playing in such situation? if you wanted to do that then you should have done when worldcup started not directly in semis. When you think you can get out early then there is battle lost.

Accept whole heartedly that was wrong decision Man. To send Pant at No 4 .  No doubt. But come on , if the idea was to solidify the MO by batting at No 4  for VK ( and thats a big IF ) I don't see that as a issue.

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Just now, DGBOSS said:

Accept whole heartedly that was wrong decision Man. To send Pant at No 4 .  No doubt. But come on , if the idea was to solidify the MO by batting at No 4  for VK ( and thats a big IF ) I don't see that as a issue.

If he wanted to strong the middle order he should have done in bilateral series not in worldcup semi finals. He batted whole worldcup at #3 when ball didn't swing or seam much but how can you try to hide when teams need you most and think of sending some inexperienced player?

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8 minutes ago, beetle said:

Suits everyone's agenda.

Make the other keepers look bad so this guy can continue .

Agree.. the money ( sponsorships)involved seems to be huge.. no wonder Kohli-Dhoni-shastri nexus is strongest.. Jadeja saved their ****. 

 

 

Dont want other batting superstar to emerge... this is no longer a team game... it’s for top order to Amass meaninglessness odd runs and sponsorships and not allow anybody in middle order to thrive.. if the game has to evolve we should have larger boundaries and do away with power play after 20 overs and also 2 new ball rules.  The openers and 1 down have it too easy...

 

longing for Ganguly specific days.. though we did not win much, there was hunger and passion among players  in those days.. these guys are commercial artists.. care no hoots about cricket or fans...

 

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2 hours ago, Cricketics said:

You are the best player in the world, you have to bat at 3. Doubting yourself is bigger crime than doubting your team mates. Like I said, contradiction was all over the place. 

But he did come out and bat at #3 after seeing the ball jagging around, troubling Rahul and dismissing Sharma.  Not understanding what the angst is all about.  

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5 minutes ago, ExtremeBrainfade said:

But he did come out and bat at #3 after seeing the ball jagging around, troubling Rahul and dismissing Sharma.  Not understanding what the angst is all about.  

Its that he was thinking about coming at 4. A top batsman should take responsibility, and him being captain, he should taken even more responsibility instead of trying to hide. He did come out, you are right, but just the thought is what angst people

 

Public is just full angry now because we lost the World Cup semi game, its a big loss, so naturally hearing other stuff like this will anger them more. Can't blame them. Anyways, not sure how true is the above article.

 

Regardlesss, Kohli needs to give up captaincy, and just play as a batsman in ODI's .

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3 minutes ago, Cricketics said:

Its that he was thinking about coming at 4. A top batsman should take responsibility, and him being captain, he should taken even more responsibility instead of trying to hide. He did come out, you are right, but just the thought is what angst people

 

Public is just full angry now because we lost the World Cup semi game, its a big loss, so naturally hearing other stuff like this will anger them more. Can't blame them. Anyways, not sure how true is the above article.

 

Regardlesss, Kohli needs to give up captaincy, and just play as a batsman in ODI's .

I don't know ... if the source is to be believed, it seems like someone brought it up and there was some chatter, but when the shyte hit the fan, VK walked out.  

 

VK can be criticized for a lot of things - lack of tactical acumen, conservative team picks, over-reliance on Dhoni, potty-mouth etc., but his body of work over the years shows that he does not lack commitment or courage.  It's just people trying to pin every damn thing on him, even if the evidence is simply not there.    

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1 hour ago, prudent_kreeda said:

     I can understand if he thinks that way post 2014 when he was clueless in England. But being one of the best player around and

     after  conquering english conditions in 2018 , if you cannot stand up  in 2019  , who else can ?

Ha, if Vince had taken that catch off Anders Kohli would be avg in single digits that series as well :cantstop:

 

Don't get me wrong he deserves all the luck, however what are the chances that he can score like that in England ever again? He is such a boom/bust player that it's ridiculous, we've seen him plunder England in 2016 & then get demolished by Oz 3 months later!

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what a wimp. If he had any guts, he would have opened (since he is the only Test regular in the top 4-5 who has played on challenging pitches in SENA) - he is not altogether new to opening - and shielded our weak middle order. Instead, he probably saw Lockie and Boult and screamed and ran the other way to 4. Perhaps he should have come at 8 and Jaddu at 3.

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this has been the way he has captained for years now,throw the inexperienced newbies on situations where they are bound to fail and protect the oldies,and now it has costed us the world cup, this guy is a fkn plague as a captain and hope we get rid of him atleast in odis.

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