vvvslaxman Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 Even the highlights is so absorbing. I remember what a tough pitch it was to bat on. Dravid put on a master class. diga, nevada, GoldenSun and 2 others 2 3 Link to comment
Vijy Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: Even the highlights is so absorbing. I remember what a tough pitch it was to bat on. Dravid put on a master class. not coincidentally, I think dravid attained his peak test avg of 59+ in this period. By 2006, I feel he was close to his very peak. at that time, I thought he would end with a career avg of 56-58, but his decline was gradual and prolonged. PS: the above innings was a great one and a matchwinning one too. even lara and chanders struggled on that pitch. kumble played a typically gutsy knock. Edited July 21, 2019 by Vijy Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted July 21, 2019 Author Share Posted July 21, 2019 I don't say Kohli doesn't play well in both innings. He has already had played well in both innings of a test a few times. But Dravid played more decisive match winning twin innings. It requires great temperament to retain the focus in the 2nd innings as well. http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=1;filter=advanced;orderby=runs;team=6;template=results;type=batting;view=match beetle 1 Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted July 21, 2019 Author Share Posted July 21, 2019 13 minutes ago, Vijy said: not coincidentally, I think dravid attained his peak test avg of 59+ in this period. By 2006, I feel he was close to his very peak. at that time, I thought he would end with a career avg of 56-58, but his decline was gradual and prolonged. PS: the above innings was a great one and a matchwinning one too. even lara and chanders struggled on that pitch. kumble played a typically gutsy knock. Yes. He was at peak of his powers !! Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted July 21, 2019 Author Share Posted July 21, 2019 The pull shots in this match were dismissive Link to comment
rkt.india Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 3 hours ago, Vijy said: not coincidentally, I think dravid attained his peak test avg of 59+ in this period. By 2006, I feel he was close to his very peak. at that time, I thought he would end with a career avg of 56-58, but his decline was gradual and prolonged. PS: the above innings was a great one and a matchwinning one too. even lara and chanders struggled on that pitch. kumble played a typically gutsy knock. From 2007 to 2012, he averaged around 40-42. Dravid's ups and downs were like ponting. Both were at their best during 2002-2006. Link to comment
cricketfan28 Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 Played very well in the match vs SL in 2007 wc. Link to comment
diga Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 Was SRT injured in that 2006 series? Link to comment
Vijy Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 3 hours ago, rkt.india said: From 2007 to 2012, he averaged around 40-42. Dravid's ups and downs were like ponting. Both were at their best during 2002-2006. I agree that Dravid and Punter had rather similar trajectories. By most players standards, 40-42 is good. But compared to peak Dravid it was a decline. that's why I wrote the decline was "gradual and prolonged". Link to comment
adi B Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 4 hours ago, diga said: Was SRT injured in that 2006 series? Yes .he was in and out from the team in that year due to injury . Dravid's twin fifty in sabina park was an exhibition of grit and technical perfection ,that was a horrible pitch to bat on vvvslaxman and sarcastic 2 Link to comment
Kronadler Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 The Wall is the greatest #3 India ever had. Period. Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted July 22, 2019 Author Share Posted July 22, 2019 46 minutes ago, Cricspin said: Give us two players half of Dravid in technique and character.. Add in some modern flair .. put them at No.4 and No.5 in tests.. Team will look solid to me. PUjara is the closest we get. He proved that in the OZ series with incredible temperament. Link to comment
gattaca Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 Vihari temperament was good in Australia and England as well. It will be great if he can go on a make big one. He got robbed by DRS in Australia he was due for a big one. Link to comment
mishra Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 I have never seen any bat as pleasing to eye and technically correct as Dravid. Not even Sachin, Lara, Gavaskar, Ponting. Closest was Lara when it came to watching a bat Cricketics 1 Link to comment
diga Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 ^ beauty lies in the eye of the beholder. Damien Martyn & Mark Waugh were elegant and pleasing to the eye Cricketics 1 Link to comment
diga Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 With T20 cricket emphasizing on raw power, the elegance in stroke making will be a lost art Link to comment
mishra Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 ^ You may be right. For me pleaseing to eye requires few basics 1. cricket strokes should look like as text book as can be. 2. Player should be playing as close to his body and as late as possible. 3. Shots are timing 4. There has to be a ideal physique, Not stocky , Not very tall. Bottom line, You want it to compare it like watching dance. Dancer has to be of certain shape, certain size, certain dexeterity and then you start looking into technical aspects of dance Link to comment
Vijy Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 14 hours ago, mishra said: I have never seen any bat as pleasing to eye and technically correct as Dravid. Not even Sachin, Lara, Gavaskar, Ponting. Closest was Lara when it came to watching a bat Of this lot, only Lara was known for his elegance. Sachin (and Sunny to a very slightly lesser extent) possessed impeccable technical ability, which is different from elegance. Ponting was not an elegant batsman: he was a bustling, energetic and forceful batsman with pleasing shot-making skills. examples of batsmen who can be called elegance include laxman, mark waugh, damien martyn, kane, david gower, mahela, and above them... one and only chanderpaul. Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted July 24, 2019 Author Share Posted July 24, 2019 (edited) Laxman was a touch player. YOu won't see too many movements. Dravid on the other hand bends, crouches, moves back and across he does all kind of lovely things before he meets the ball. Guys like Laxman, Inzamam, STephen Fleming don't have that many body movements. They just let the bat swing through the line. Body is generally static. Dravid and Lara have exaggerated body movements. Even Yuvraj singh. But it is good to watch though. Edited July 24, 2019 by vvvslaxman mishra 1 Link to comment
Vijy Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 1 minute ago, vvvslaxman said: Laxman was a touch player. YOu won't see too many movements. Dravid on the other hand bends, crouches, moves back and across he does all kind of lovely things before he meets the ball. Guys like Laxman, Inzamam, STephen Fleming don't have that many body movements. They just let the bat swing through the line. Body is generally static. Dravid and Lara have exaggerated body movements. Even Yuvraj singh. But it is good to watch though. Laxman didn't move a lot against pace and this is why he was good on hard & bouncy pitches, but not on pitches with swing (where footwork is a must). but, laxman did move a lot against spinners. he used his feet beautifully to them - plenty of examples against warne in that monumental 281. Inzy is more of a touch player against all types of bowling. Link to comment
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