Ban of single-use plastic from October 2nd

[randomGuy]

Could be the single biggest step towards clean-India. 

Discuss.

[Pollack]

Trash decision. When will government learn you don't impose a ban without viable alternative. We all agree about plastic being hazardous to our environment. But where are alternatives?  And did govt plan to promote it if any? Maharashtra tried plastic ban. It has failed comprehensively in practise.

 

[Real McCoy]

On 8/18/2019 at 9:55 AM, Pollack said:

Trash decision. When will government learn you don't impose a ban without viable alternative. We all agree about plastic being hazardous to our environment. But where are alternatives?  And did govt plan to promote it if any? Maharashtra tried plastic ban. It has failed comprehensively in practise.

 

My thoughts exactly. You can't ban something without providing a better alternative. In Chennai, they have introduced bans on plastic bags. But still rice, dal, dried fruits all come in plastic covers. Will people carry separate bags for rice, dal, etc. How about plastic bottles for water, coke, pepsi. Where are the alternatives

Edited August 19, 2019 by Real McCoy

[nikred]

They banned in Telangana too. The ban was so ineffective that I even forgot the government banned it until I came across an article couple of days ago.

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[Gollum]

Gimmick 

[Stradlater]

Alternative + awareness campaigns are the key. 

Even if a suitable alternative is provided, people won't switch to it unless a massive campaign which educates citizens about the detrimental affects of plastic on ecosystem is carried out. 

 

In addition we need to focus our attention on the elephant in the room i.e microplastics which are so ubiquitous in our daily lives that it would take a huge effort on Govt's part to completely eradicate them. 

Microplastics if not dealt with soon could pose the biggest danger after climate change to the environment. 

[mishra]

Should be implemented globally. 

BTW, do packaging also qualify as single use plastic?

[G_B_]

On 8/18/2019 at 5:25 AM, Pollack said:

Trash decision. When will government learn you don't impose a ban without viable alternative. We all agree about plastic being hazardous to our environment. But where are alternatives?  And did govt plan to promote it if any? Maharashtra tried plastic ban. It has failed comprehensively in practise.

 

it will take time to seep through.

 

 

[someone]

Enforcement issues and lack of alternatives. So its a fail move imo...

[cowboysfan]

On 8/17/2019 at 11:25 PM, Pollack said:

Trash decision. When will government learn you don't impose a ban without viable alternative. We all agree about plastic being hazardous to our environment. But where are alternatives?  And did govt plan to promote it if any? Maharashtra tried plastic ban. It has failed comprehensively in practise.

 

I disagree with you,plastics are destroying over planet from seas to rivers to wildlife.the first step is banning single use plastic,then they can move on to micro plastics and others.A little inconvenience is worth it and future generations will thank us.

[ExtremeBrainfade]

Litter is one aspect of the environment.  Considering all other aspects, plastic bags are preferable to tote bags.  Here is a well-done study conducted by Denmark's Ministry of Envt and Food showing that the overall environmental impact of plastic bags is much lower:

 

https://www2.mst.dk/Udgiv/publications/2018/02/978-87-93614-73-4.pdf

 

Summarized well here:

https://qz.com/1585027/when-it-comes-to-climate-change-cotton-totes-might-be-worse-than-plastic/

 

Key data showing overall environmental impact of various alternatives:

 

 

Edited August 19, 2019 by ExtremeBrainfade

[Mariyam]

6 hours ago, G_B_ said:

it will take time to seep through.

 

It was not a well thought out move. More over the implementation was terrible. 

In case you want to ban a certain product, the best place to start would be a blanket ban on the manufacture of the said product. In Maharashtra they banned the sale of the plastic bag. Basically levied huge fines (rs 5000) for anyone who was found carrying them. Seemed more like a move to extort money from the unsuspecting public than an attempt at playing captain planet.

[ExtremeBrainfade]

2 hours ago, Mariyam said:

It was not a well thought out move. More over the implementation was terrible. 

In case you want to ban a certain product, the best place to start would be a blanket ban on the manufacture of the said product. In Maharashtra they banned the sale of the plastic bag. Basically levied huge fines (rs 5000) for anyone who was found carrying them. Seemed more like a move to extort money from the unsuspecting public than an attempt at playing captain planet.

From an environmental perspective, banning them itself is a questionable move - be it at point of manufacture or point of sale. 

Edited August 19, 2019 by ExtremeBrainfade

[Mariyam]

8 hours ago, ExtremeBrainfade said:

From an environmental perspective, banning them itself is a questionable move - be it at point of manufacture or point of sale. 

I think there is some merit to the move. Plastic bags beyond a certain thickness clog the rivers/drains. The desilting process is a lot slower when there is plastic on the river (If you can call the Mithi one) bed.

[rkt.india]

On 8/18/2019 at 9:55 AM, Pollack said:

Trash decision. When will government learn you don't impose a ban without viable alternative. We all agree about plastic being hazardous to our environment. But where are alternatives?  And did govt plan to promote it if any? Maharashtra tried plastic ban. It has failed comprehensively in practise.

 

It has failed everywhere.