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Indian Sumit Nagal qualifies for his first main draw of a GS. 

Who does he face in the first round?

A player called Roger Federer.

Indian no 1 Prajnesh Gunneswaran play Medvedev in the first round.

 

As for who's the favourite to win, Djokovic of course is the favourite to defend his title.

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1 hour ago, Real McCoy said:

Nagal is the next Nadal. He will beat Fedex then beat Djokovic. Gunneswaran will gun down Medvedev. Finals between Nagal and Gunn. Mark my words :winky:

Lol, they're both in the same side of the draw. SF max.

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Caught only the final 20 minutes of the Fegal match...sadly that SW19 final defeat has scarred me. Don't think I will be able to enjoy tennis the way I used to, simply going through the motions, no passion. 

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4 hours ago, Gollum said:

Caught only the final 20 minutes of the Fegal match...sadly that SW19 final defeat has scarred me. Don't think I will be able to enjoy tennis the way I used to, simply going through the motions, no passion. 

What if Federer were to win the US Open beating Djokovic and Nadal back to back?

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4 hours ago, Gollum said:

Proud of Nagal, he has no serve so lots of scope to improve there.

Nagal did well, but not that impressive considering Federer's level of play in the first set . After Federer settled in, there was only one way it was going. Nagal did pretty well in the 4th set, almost breaking Federer's serve to level 5-5. Might've even gone to a 5th set had he converted and gained the momentum. 

But, considering Nagal is only 22, he can still improve. His Serve and fitness would have to improve to be at a top 50 level. I can definitely see him being top 100 not too far into the future.

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2 hours ago, Gollum said:

That might be a remedy but unlikely to happen, highly unlikely. 

Well he has a much better chance at beating Nadal in the final, if they were to meet. He has to go thru Djokovic in the SF(if he even makes it thru Stan and Medvedev), it all comes down to the SF between them if they both reach there. If Fed plays as well as he did in Wimbledon, plus with the added ruthlessness and revenge mindset he could beat Nole. 

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1 hour ago, I6MTW said:

Well he has a much better chance at beating Nadal in the final, if they were to meet. He has to go thru Djokovic in the SF(if he even makes it thru Stan and Medvedev), it all comes down to the SF between them if they both reach there. If Fed plays as well as he did in Wimbledon, plus with the added ruthlessness and revenge mindset he could beat Nole. 

Haven't watched much but AA seems to be a high bouncing surface, more so than previous years. Nadal can not be written off if my observation is correct, especially against the Swiss. My money is still on an early exit for Fed :((

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I hope everyone liked what they saw of Sumit Nagal yesterday.  Albeit short,  he plays with great heart and has a brilliant forehand. He has a bright future if he stays around the right people. He is a fighter and had been down a set each timei n his qualifying games before his lead up to the game against Federer. He did not have many  answers to Federer during. those middle sets but when Federer was about to cruise to victory in the end, he just reminded everyone how he made it to. the US Open. Even though he won the first set, Sumit showed his best tennis in the last set yesterday with those long rallies, well he is a clay court specialist too so that kind of answers why he is involved in rallies.

 

He played like top 75 player yesterday.  I think this time around next year his ranking would be in top 100. 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Cricketics said:

I hope everyone liked what they saw of Sumit Nagal yesterday.  Albeit short,  he plays with great heart and has a brilliant forehand. He has a bright future if he stays around the right people. He is a fighter and had been down a set each timei n his qualifying games before his lead up to the game against Federer. He did not have many  answers to Federer during. those middle sets but when Federer was about to cruise to victory in the end, he just reminded everyone how he made it to. the US Open. Even though he won the first set, Sumit showed his best tennis in the last set yesterday with those long rallies, well he is a clay court specialist too so that kind of answers why he is involved in rallies.

 

He played like top 75 player yesterday.  I think this time around next year his ranking would be in top 100. 

 

 

Sumit Nagal is a clay courter. He has a great moonballing FH. His movement is also good. It's only his Serve which is lacking cuz of the height, serving is always a disadvantage for short players(I can understand because I'm also short around 5'5 ). He lacks killer weapons to make it to the top. He's 22 so he may improve and peak in the mid 20s. He can be a top 50 player at best, but I do see him breaking the top 100 soon. 

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1 hour ago, Gollum said:

Haven't watched much but AA seems to be a high bouncing surface, more so than previous years. Nadal can not be written off if my observation is correct, especially against the Swiss. My money is still on an early exit for Fed :((

From what I heard and saw, the surface seems to be faster than last year. Maybe the lower temperatures are making it seem slower than it actually is. But it seems faster than last year. 

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41 minutes ago, I6MTW said:

Sumit Nagal is a clay courter. He has a great moonballing FH. His movement is also good. It's only his Serve which is lacking cuz of the height, serving is always a disadvantage for short players(I can understand because I'm also short around 5'5 ). He lacks killer weapons to make it to the top. He's 22 so he may improve and peak in the mid 20s. He can be a top 50 player at best, but I do see him breaking the top 100 soon. 

Regarding height, he needs to take cue out of Diego Schwartzman or Nishikori. Both of them are short but have the tendency to play long rallies too, something similar to what Sumit displayed yesterday. I agree server is something he needs to work on and might remain his challenging aspect of the game through out his career. 

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7 hours ago, Gollum said:

Thiem, Tsitsipas, Khachanov, Bautista-Agut, Querrey, Tsonga, Edmund, Berdych OUT. Nadal's draw looks so easy now....lucky mofo. 

Only players who are half decent threats to Nadal are Cilic, Isner, Shapovolav, Zverev, Kyrgios, and Monfils.

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Looks like Federer is done, he might still win a few matches here and there every tournament but his level is gone. Not even top 50 anymore. He's not getting any younger as well. Once his age finally kicks in. He'll no longer be able to win matches using his B and C level games. The loss at Wimbledon destroyed him. So anything after that will always be a hole in his career. Fed's career is now divided into two parts , pre W 2019 and post W 2019.

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14 hours ago, I6MTW said:

Looks like Federer is done, he might still win a few matches here and there every tournament but his level is gone. Not even top 50 anymore. He's not getting any younger as well. Once his age finally kicks in. He'll no longer be able to win matches using his B and C level games. The loss at Wimbledon destroyed him. So anything after that will always be a hole in his career. Fed's career is now divided into two parts , pre W 2019 and post W 2019.

Federer was done long time ago. Him reaching the final in 2019 itself is a big thing. He is not done mentally but physically. People keep forgetting that he is 38. Federer, Nadal and Djokovic are still on because the competition is weak. Many say that 2000-10 was a weak era. But right now its the lowest. Federer was challenged by a younger Nadal who was challenged by Djokovic. Sampras was the great player before Federer. He retired at 30. Becker and Edberg retired at 30. So anything after 2011, Federer was not in his prime. Nadal and Djoker are not in their prime also but not as old as Federer. If the youngsters coming up were able to challenge the big 3, we would have a new set of players.

 

Look at the youngsters right now - Thiem, Kyrgios, Tsitsipas, Zverev, Medvedev. They are not even in the category of Hewitt who was considered a placeholder for a much better player which Federer turned out to be. Hewitt has a good record against Sampras who was the great champion in the 90s. In the 90s, they used to say your reflexes slow down after 30. So most people retired after 30. Federer's game right now reminds us of the declining quality of tennis. Nadal and Djoker can keep it up but only for so long. After them, tennis will be done. Many kids throuhgout the world these days play videogames not outdoor sports. I used to play cricket in the streets, parks, school grounds, even inside the house. I don't see it too much these days.

 

If you say his game has changed since wimbledon, he was playing horrible tennis in wimbledon and french open also. It was covered up because he reached the finals and SF respectively. I'm expecting him to be knocked out in the early rounds itself. Last year he was knocked out by Millman who was easily beaten by Nadal this year. Fed needs to quit. Sooner the better

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2 hours ago, Real McCoy said:

Federer was done long time ago. Him reaching the final in 2019 itself is a big thing. He is not done mentally but physically. People keep forgetting that he is 38. Federer, Nadal and Djokovic are still on because the competition is weak. Many say that 2000-10 was a weak era. But right now its the lowest. Federer was challenged by a younger Nadal who was challenged by Djokovic. Sampras was the great player before Federer. He retired at 30. Becker and Edberg retired at 30. So anything after 2011, Federer was not in his prime. Nadal and Djoker are not in their prime also but not as old as Federer. If the youngsters coming up were able to challenge the big 3, we would have a new set of players.

 

Look at the youngsters right now - Thiem, Kyrgios, Tsitsipas, Zverev, Medvedev. They are not even in the category of Hewitt who was considered a placeholder for a much better player which Federer turned out to be. Hewitt has a good record against Sampras who was the great champion in the 90s. In the 90s, they used to say your reflexes slow down after 30. So most people retired after 30. Federer's game right now reminds us of the declining quality of tennis. Nadal and Djoker can keep it up but only for so long. After them, tennis will be done. Many kids throuhgout the world these days play videogames not outdoor sports. I used to play cricket in the streets, parks, school grounds, even inside the house. I don't see it too much these days.

 

If you say his game has changed since wimbledon, he was playing horrible tennis in wimbledon and french open also. It was covered up because he reached the finals and SF respectively. I'm expecting him to be knocked out in the early rounds itself. Last year he was knocked out by Millman who was easily beaten by Nadal this year. Fed needs to quit. Sooner the better

Federer won't quit until his records are safe from Nadal and Djokovic. Though, after the Wim loss, he might be mentally done, in that case he might retire soon. Federer at 38 though, is still the only player capable of going toe to toe with Nadal and Djokovic(two of the best players still today.). Even in his declined game , he still stands a better chance of beating them than the Next Gen and Lost Gen players.

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1 hour ago, I6MTW said:

Federer won't quit until his records are safe from Nadal and Djokovic. Though, after the Wim loss, he might be mentally done, in that case he might retire soon. Federer at 38 though, is still the only player capable of going toe to toe with Nadal and Djokovic(two of the best players still today.). Even in his declined game , he still stands a better chance of beating them than the Next Gen and Lost Gen players.

His records is not safe from the other two. I think them both will overtake him. I think he is physically done. He is making a lot of unforced errors more often than before. He was making the same in Wim and RG. His reflexes are waning. Losing first sets to a qualifier and a guy ranked 100 should give an idea

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1 hour ago, Real McCoy said:

His records is not safe from the other two. I think them both will overtake him. I think he is physically done. He is making a lot of unforced errors more often than before. He was making the same in Wim and RG. His reflexes are waning. Losing first sets to a qualifier and a guy ranked 100 should give an idea

I see him retiring end of 2020 or 2021 max. He might play the 2020 olympics. As for his age, it did seek he was done last year after Indian wells, he was atrocious the rest of the season, people thought he was ageing, plus the IW loss drained him mentally. He did come back strong this season. Winning a masters, making two finals, SFs at RG and F at W. I would wait until next season to start judging his level and capabilities.

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Stanimal is back! Stan was excellent today and he beat Novak who looked clueless. @Cricketics He seems to have the wood over Novak in grand slams unlike any other player. The WL ratio seems to underplay Stan's prowess but it is there for even the casual observer to see. As one commentator put it, his one-handed backhand matches up well with Novak's two hander because of the sheer power he is able to generate. Not even Fed's one hander matches up this well he said. I wanted Stan to win it outright but was denied that opportunity by Novak who retired after 2 sets and a break down :facepalm:Hope Stan wins the trophy this time like he did in 2016

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1 hour ago, Real McCoy said:

Stanimal is back! Stan was excellent today and he beat Novak who looked clueless. @Cricketics He seems to have the wood over Novak in grand slams unlike any other player. The WL ratio seems to underplay Stan's prowess but it is there for even the casual observer to see. As one commentator put it, his one-handed backhand matches up well with Novak's two hander because of the sheer power he is able to generate. Not even Fed's one hander matches up this well he said. I wanted Stan to win it outright but was denied that opportunity by Novak who retired after 2 sets and a break down :facepalm:Hope Stan wins the trophy this time like he did in 2016

Yes, my man Stan the man doing great. Lets not take away anything from Stan whose opponent retired. His backhand was on fire. I have been a big RF fan but also secretly adored the way Stan has gone about in his career. If Nadal loses on the other side, then I would also hope Stan keeps marching on.

 

All the power to Stan, one of the coolest and classiest player on tour.

 

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So Novak is out. That retirement was poor in taste. Even with the shoulder injury. Now Federer and Nadal are the firm favourites. Federer faces his poorer version in the QF, his possible compatriot or Medvedev who is running on fumes in the SF, and Nadal in the final. Seems like a good chance for Fed to end his US Open drought.

 

This USO is full of drama and surprises, Kyrgios's incidents, Djokovic's injury and retirement, Medvedev's WWE like heel turn in front of the audience, not to mention the amount of upsets in the seeds during the early rounds, no of 5 setters etc 

 

One thing is for sure, once the big 3 are retired, the ATP will rely on "villains" and teenage like brats, like Kyrgios, Medvedev, Zverev, and Tsitsipas to keep the soon to be dying sport interesting. 

Already rule changes like no lets, best of 3 sets, 4 game sets, on court coaching are in testing phases, once they are implemented, the sport will officially be dead and lose its popularity among the traditional and true tennis fans. 

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52 minutes ago, Cricketics said:

Yes, my man Stan the man doing great. Lets not take away anything from Stan whose opponent retired. His backhand was on fire. I have been a big RF fan but also secretly adored the way Stan has gone about in his career. If Nadal loses on the other side, then I would also hope Stan keeps marching on.

 

All the power to Stan, one of the coolest and classiest player on tour.

 

I'm a Fed fan too but also like the game of Nadal and Stan

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Fed owes Stan big time. Still have Nadal as marginal favorite on this slow as molasses AA court, mainly because he is more upset proof than the others, Fed of late you never know. Conditions should speed up a little with more court time and bounce will be lower for evening matches....Fed can still end his USO drought here, fingers crossed. Nadal's new style is better against rest of the field but to beat Nole/Fed outside clay he needs his old style (+tactics, these 2 intertwined) back, and a better ROS. More than Fed winning I want Nadal to exit, can you imagine him with 4 majors here since 2010 despite missing 2 USOs, Fed has zero post that choke againt Potro, ZERO :((

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6 hours ago, Gollum said:

Fed owes Stan big time. Still have Nadal as marginal favorite on this slow as molasses AA court, mainly because he is more upset proof than the others, Fed of late you never know. Conditions should speed up a little with more court time and bounce will be lower for evening matches....Fed can still end his USO drought here, fingers crossed. Nadal's new style is better against rest of the field but to beat Nole/Fed outside clay he needs his old style (+tactics, these 2 intertwined) back, and a better ROS. More than Fed winning I want Nadal to exit, can you imagine him with 4 majors here since 2010 despite missing 2 USOs, Fed has zero post that choke againt Potro, ZERO :((

After seeing Nadal's match against Cilic. He has to be the favourite to beat anyone here. Cilic player very well, almost to his old level but still Nadal went into another gear and destroyed him in 3 out of 4 sets. 

 

QF and SF are mere formalities as no one has the game or mentality to threaten Nadal. Only person remaining who can beat Nadal is Federer, or maybe peak 2017 Dimitrov like in AO. Wawrinka and Medvedev have no chances against a healthy peak Nadal. 

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Stan and Roger lose to Medvedev and Dimitrov respectively. Nadal is the favorite if he is not already after Djoker's exit. He has the jobber Schwartzmann next who he practices with. Should be an easy game for him. His next challenge will be Monfils/Berretini which will be a bit tough. Med and Dimi will be a mouthwatering contest and would also present Nadal with a considerable challenge.

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5 hours ago, Real McCoy said:

Stan and Roger lose to Medvedev and Dimitrov respectively. Nadal is the favorite if he is not already after Djoker's exit. He has the jobber Schwartzmann next who he practices with. Should be an easy game for him. His next challenge will be Monfils/Berretini which will be a bit tough. Med and Dimi will be a mouthwatering contest and would also present Nadal with a considerable challenge.

Only one remaining in the draw that will pose even a slight challenge is Dimitrov if he is in form and peaking. But, Dimitrov is nowhere close to his 2017 form where he took Nadal to 5 in AO. His draw has been lucky. The others would either bend over or pose bo threat to Nadal whatsoever.

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5 hours ago, I6MTW said:

Only one remaining in the draw that will pose even a slight challenge is Dimitrov if he is in form and peaking. But, Dimitrov is nowhere close to his 2017 form where he took Nadal to 5 in AO. His draw has been lucky. The others would either bend over or pose bo threat to Nadal whatsoever.

Medvedev is in the form of his life. He beat Djokovic at Cincinnati and beat Wawrinka yesterday who was on the high of beating Djokovic in the previous game. Medvedev was on pain killers and still beat a resurgent Wawrinka. Don't count him out. His only concern is him running on fumes. I don't think Dimitrov will pose that much of a threat to Nadal as Nadal will prepare well for him.

 

Berretini if he makes it to the SF has the talent and composure to challenge Nadal. What he doesn't have is experience. I can see him as the face of tennis 2020+. He has a great serve, powerful forehand, mental courage. Don't go by his outing against Federer at Wimbledon this year. Federer took him seriously as he knows which guy has talent to threaten him. Nadal will also consider him as a serious threat if he were to face him.

 

Real threats to Nadal GS19 in 2019 are Medvedev who is in sparkling form and Berrettini due to the unknown factor. But they both have to deal with Dimitrov and Monfils respectively. Monfils will lose to Nadal if he makes it. So this is Nadal's open to lose with Medvedev and Berrettini as the dark horses.

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1 hour ago, Real McCoy said:

Medvedev is in the form of his life. He beat Djokovic at Cincinnati and beat Wawrinka yesterday who was on the high of beating Djokovic in the previous game. Medvedev was on pain killers and still beat a resurgent Wawrinka. Don't count him out. His only concern is him running on fumes. I don't think Dimitrov will pose that much of a threat to Nadal as Nadal will prepare well for him.

 

Berretini if he makes it to the SF has the talent and composure to challenge Nadal. What he doesn't have is experience. I can see him as the face of tennis 2020+. He has a great serve, powerful forehand, mental courage. Don't go by his outing against Federer at Wimbledon this year. Federer took him seriously as he knows which guy has talent to threaten him. Nadal will also consider him as a serious threat if he were to face him.

 

Real threats to Nadal GS19 in 2019 are Medvedev who is in sparkling form and Berrettini due to the unknown factor. But they both have to deal with Dimitrov and Monfils respectively. Monfils will lose to Nadal if he makes it. So this is Nadal's open to lose with Medvedev and Berrettini as the dark horses.

Medvedev's issue is fitness, plus the ability to handle and play Nadal as evident from the Montreal loss earlier last month. I don't know if Medvedev can beat Nadal so soon. It would be something similar to Nadal-Tsitsipas of AO. Berrettini has the 'dark horse's' factor in him , he certainly has the weapons and the game to pose a threat. But his main weakness is his backhand(though it has considerably improved especially the slice) but in order to challenge Nadal on these high bouncing courts you need a very strong backhand. Plus his mentality is suspect when facing the aura of the Big 3 as shown in Wimbledon. Monfils doesn't have the mentality to handle the big 3 in crucial stages as evident from the USO 16 SF against Djokovic. He will clown around , even choke when he gets going.

 

Dimitrov, if he peaks and reproduces his 17 form ,  certainly has a chance against Nadal as he always plays well against him for a while , taking a set or two. Their H2H may be in favour of Nadal but he always drops sets or makes sets closer when facing Dimitrov. But, he needs to peak in order to pose a challenge. His current level will get destroyed by Nadal. 

 

Schwartzman has the toughest mentality of them all, he has one of the best ground game , shot making, all court play as well. But, the thing is his Serve is horrible. Because of his height, he has to work hard and grind for every point , his fitness and momentum will run out at some point as he doesn't get any free points on his Serve. But, he can trouble Nadal physically, make him run around etc.

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9 minutes ago, I6MTW said:

Schwartzman has the toughest mentality of them all, he has one of the best ground game , shot making, all court play as well. But, the thing is his Serve is horrible. Because of his height, he has to work hard and grind for every point , his fitness and momentum will run out at some point as he doesn't get any free points on his Serve. But, he can trouble Nadal physically, make him run around etc.

Schwartzmann trains in Rafael Nadal Academy with Rafa. Rafa knows his game and will turn out to be an easy game for Rafa. The other thing about Berrettini is that he grew up playing in clay and his coach asked him to play hard courts as well to develop his allround game. Could help if he is playing Nadal

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58 minutes ago, Real McCoy said:

Schwartzmann trains in Rafael Nadal Academy with Rafa. Rafa knows his game and will turn out to be an easy game for Rafa. The other thing about Berrettini is that he grew up playing in clay and his coach asked him to play hard courts as well to develop his allround game. Could help if he is playing Nadal

Let's see. Nadal might win the title without even facing a single top 10 player if Dimitrov makes it to the final. That's one of the easieSt draws you can get. The other being the 2017 USO final. 

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This is why tennis needs Nole, hate this sport where a clay-courter like Nadal is poised to win 4 USOs in this decade, this is so unfair. You guys watching from where Nadal is returning serve this tourney? Is this a joke? Shame on USO organizers for laying this sham of a playing surface.

 

Fed finished his legacy serving at 40-15 in SW19 final, that choke ensured he will finish at #3 in the GOAT race when all is done. That choke haunts me, took me many years to get over his screw up in back to back USO SFs, this scar may never go. Why did I even bother to watch this open :wall:, should have stuck to my no-tennis policy...

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12 hours ago, Gollum said:

This is why tennis needs Nole, hate this sport where a clay-courter like Nadal is poised to win 4 USOs in this decade, this is so unfair. You guys watching from where Nadal is returning serve this tourney? Is this a joke? Shame on USO organizers for laying this sham of a playing surface.

 

Fed finished his legacy serving at 40-15 in SW19 final, that choke ensured he will finish at #3 in the GOAT race when all is done. That choke haunts me, took me many years to get over his screw up in back to back USO SFs, this scar may never go. Why did I even bother to watch this open :wall:, should have stuck to my no-tennis policy...

You seem to be a noletard behind that fedtard outer layer. j/k :winky:

 

Even wimby court was slow. I can't believe this is the same court where Sampras and Federer used to serve and volley and finish points quick. Serve and volley tennis is dying and will carry the entire sport with it to the grave. In the 90s with the same set of opponents, Nadal will be a clay court specialist with 12 GS but will suck in others. That position of return will never work in the 90s

 

I heard US Open courts used to be faster until the late 2000s

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37 minutes ago, Real McCoy said:

Even wimby court was slow. I can't believe this is the same court where Sampras and Federer used to serve and volley and finish points quick. Serve and volley tennis is dying and will carry the entire sport with it to the grave. In the 90s with the same set of opponents, Nadal will be a clay court specialist with 12 GS but will suck in others. That position of return will never work in the 90s
 

2002 SW19 F was between Hewitt and Nalbandian, both hardly came to the net. That was the year grass started its transformation to green clay. Now it is low bouncing (saving grace), slippery surface...wait for a few years and they will manage to to * up the surface completely. 

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I heard US Open courts used to be faster until the late 2000s

Yeah USO was reasonably quick in late 2000s. 

AO Rebound Ace was even quicker, used till 2007 before they switched to ultra slow Plexicushion. Since 2016 AO courts have once again sped up, but Rebound Ace courts were much quicker. Also a tragedy that carpet (used in indoors events) is out of the picture, that was lightning quick but players were more injury prone. 

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3 hours ago, Gollum said:

2002 SW19 F was between Hewitt and Nalbandian, both hardly came to the net. That was the year grass started its transformation to green clay. Now it is low bouncing (saving grace), slippery surface...wait for a few years and they will manage to to * up the surface completely. 

Yeah USO was reasonably quick in late 2000s. 

AO Rebound Ace was even quicker, used till 2007 before they switched to ultra slow Plexicushion. Since 2016 AO courts have once again sped up, but Rebound Ace courts were much quicker. Also a tragedy that carpet (used in indoors events) is out of the picture, that was lightning quick but players were more injury prone. 

We need more faster surfaces. Clay to its original form. Grass back to fast grass, not green clay. Return of carpet, even introduce wooden courts. We need surface variety and speed variety. We should have fast grass at Wimbledon, if needed medium grass in smaller tournaments , we need a Grass masters. It's a travesty tennis's oldest surface doesn't have one. Hard courts should be fast medium and slow, not just slow and medium(which is considered fast by today's standards), we need carpet back(in order to minimize injuries, carpet speed could be varied. 

With all these plus the fact that a lot of tournaments have roofs and can be played indoors(such as hard, clay and grass) we would have the most variety the tour has ever seen.  Bringing back BO5 in masters finals would also be great. (They stopped it because of the Rome 06 match)

 

But, sadly this will be unlikely to happen. 

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Any idea why more injuries on carpet? Because of problem in foot gripping? Or is change in direction more taxing on knees/ankles? I don't think you can slide much on HC either, clay is best for the joints. 

 

Conditions won't be slowed down, sponsors want longer rallies, longer game time and they shall have it. 90s was boring with all those unreturned serves and 3 shot rallies but now we have 40 shot rallies on 1st week of Wimbledon...dunno which is worse? Grass season is short because those courts are expensive to maintain...a masters in Queen's will be good for the sport. 

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4 minutes ago, Gollum said:

Any idea why more injuries on carpet? Because of problem in foot gripping? Or is change in direction more taxing on knees/ankles? I don't think you can slide much on HC either, clay is best for the joints. 

 

Conditions won't be slowed down, sponsors want longer rallies, longer game time and they shall have it. 90s was boring with all those unreturned serves and 3 shot rallies but now we have 40 shot rallies on 1st week of Wimbledon...dunno which is worse? Grass season is short because those courts are expensive to maintain...a masters in Queen's will be good for the sport. 

Even I'm not sure why carpet is injury prone. I always thought faster surfaces were easier on the knees and body. Though I know sliding and moving on HCs are bad for the knees. 

 

I think a masters in Halle would be better. Better facilities, roof, bigger courts I think. Plus Germany deserves a masters for all its tension following. They haven't had one since Stuttgart and Hamburg got relegated etc. 

 

Queens would be pointless, it's a waste to have a masters on the same surface and same city just a week or two before a slam. Plus the facilities and parking doesn't even match Halle. The only advantage it has is that it's more prestigious. 

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32 minutes ago, Real McCoy said:

Looks like a MEDAL matchup in the finals. Nadal will be like "Berrettini is a incredible player, no. He asa powaful serbe, guud forehan. Will be a good game no" before the game and will win the match up 6-3 6-2 6-1 no :cantstop:

Like I said, the only one remaining , who can challenge Nadal is Dimitrov if he peaks and returns to his A0 17 form. He has taken a set in every match he played against Nadal om HC, and even played him close for a set or two on clay. He is a tough matchup for Nadal , has beaten him once. Even if he loses, at least it won't be a total bendover. This isnofc course, if he gains decent form. If not, then Medvedev would be a better option, though he will definitely not have the fitness to exchange with Nadal on the baseline. He might even retire in the final.

 

I'm not too convinced on Berrettini ready for the big guns yet. He doesn't have the experience or the composure to handle the situation. 

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20 minutes ago, Gollum said:

Nadal is cancer, deserves a ban for his gamesmanship tonight. Gutted for Med, and * the inept umpire. 

Exactly!! Average 40 secs between serve. Yet he gets a penalty only once in a while. Even in the final game, he was past the serve clock but the umpire didnt give him one. 

 

Medvedev is the real deal. Extreme mental strength, unseen and unheard of. 99% of the players other than the big 3,  would've given up after being 2 sets down, but Medvedev came back. He almost came back again after being a double break down. Almost took it to 5-5 as well. Ice Cold demeanor. Crowd was pathetic as always. Nadal didn't even play that well. He just tried to disrupt Medvedev's Momentum. 

 

It's amazing how Medvedev came this far.  He was under the radar of Next Gens. Nobody expected him to reach to the top. The focus was all on Zverev, Kyrgios, Tsitsipas, Shapovolav, etc. But this guy had achieved more than any of them. 

 

This is an asterisked win for Nadal. He almost choked the championship. The only difference between Nadal and Federer's choke was he was up a double break instead of a single break. Which is why he was able to regroup and and serve out the match. Both had 2 CPs wasted but Federer was up only a single break. This was almost no different to Fed's choke.

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