maniac Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 (edited) Traditionally Indian fast bowlers do better in Subcontinent conditions than overseas. Right from the days of Kapil Dev to Srinath to Zak to Ishant,Umesh and Shami. Bumrah has a 5fr in SA,Eng,Aus and now Wi in his first tour itself. I have no doubt Bumrah will do well in India as well. Guys like Ishant,Umesh and Shami tend to very well in India . In fact they bowl more lethal spells consistently in India than overseas. Bumrah has conquered all conditions so far, so will be interesting to see how he does at home in India on dry conditions .that favor spin. I think that is going to be his final frontier in his journey to becoming India’s greatest fast bowler ever. Edited August 25, 2019 by maniac Under_Score, Mosher and mancalledsting 3 Link to comment
MK55 Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 Final fronteir would be staying fit and repeating the good performances he's had so far and his bowling intensity for years to come. He's the leader of the pack now. So a lot would be expected of him each time. How he handles that is also crucial. But hes smart and so i dont think this would be a problem for him. express bowling, Rightarmfast, GolGappe and 4 others 7 Link to comment
Muloghonto Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 13 minutes ago, MK55 said: Final fronteir would be staying fit and repeating the good performances he's had so far and his bowling intensity for years to come. He's the leader of the pack now. So a lot would be expected of him each time. How he handles that is also crucial. But hes smart and so i dont think this would be a problem for him. It will also depend a lot on Kohli and the future captain after Kohli. If Bumrah isn’t well managed in the future , things can fall apart very quickly for him MK55 and Switchblade 2 Link to comment
express bowling Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 (edited) 7 hours ago, Muloghonto said: It will also depend a lot on Kohli and the future captain after Kohli. If Bumrah isn’t well managed in the future , things can fall apart very quickly for him He is being adequately rested and not being picked for low profile series. Did not play LOIs against WI on this tour, was rested for the sole test vs Afghanistan, was rested for the T20I Nidhahas Trophy, was not picked for the 2 test vs WI at home ... so on and so forth. Moreover, the concept of workload management and monitoring the total balls bowled by pacers, is now an established concept in Team India. Gives me hope for these reasons. Edited August 26, 2019 by express bowling Mosher and Under_Score 2 Link to comment
rkt.india Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 (edited) His real challenge is longevity. It's only 11 test. At least 60 tests and 240 wickets at around 25, will make him the greatest Indian pacer. Edited August 26, 2019 by rkt.india Link to comment
rkt.india Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 4 hours ago, express bowling said: He is being adequately rested and not being picked for low profile series. Did not play LOIs against WI on this tour, was rested for the sole test vs Afghanistan, was rested for the T20I Nidhahas Trophy, was not picked for the 2 test vs WI at home ... so on and so forth. Moreover, the concept of workload management and monitoring the total balls bowled by pacers, is now an established concept in Team India. Gives me hope for these reasons. TBH, this resting whole series is BS and is a flawed concept. Too much or too long rest doesn't work. Bumrah should have played both ODIs and T20, not all but just one each to stay in bowling form. A bowler has more has more chances of injury when he suddenly bowls long overs after a long break. Link to comment
The Dark Horse Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 One of the shining lights of our Indian team inspite of all these crap from the team management. sandeep, Mosher and express bowling 3 Link to comment
kubrickian Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 There's no final frontier. He will easily break all the records held by any Indian bowler. His average, strike rate in today's tailor made batting conditions is stuff of legends. Only thing is he needs to remain fit because he plays all 3 formats and now he is also spear head of our bowling attack, so needs to carry that responsibility. But he is an intelligent guy, so he will learn how to handle it quickly. Link to comment
Nikola Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, kubrickian said: There's no final frontier. He will easily break all the records held by any Indian bowler. His average, strike rate in today's tailor made batting conditions is stuff of legends. Only thing is he needs to remain fit because he plays all 3 formats and now he is also spear head of our bowling attack, so needs to carry that responsibility. But he is an intelligent guy, so he will learn how to handle it quickly. Test cricket is having most helpful conditions for bowlers these days and bumrah has played all matches in helpful conditions as well so idk why you say tailor made batting conditions. Bumrah will do well in all conditions though. Edited August 26, 2019 by Nikola Link to comment
express bowling Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 26 minutes ago, rkt.india said: TBH, this resting whole series is BS and is a flawed concept. Too much or too long rest doesn't work. Bumrah should have played both ODIs and T20, not all but just one each to stay in bowling form. A bowler has more has more chances of injury when he suddenly bowls long overs after a long break. Agree to an extent. But I prefer a couple of T20s during the " resting period ". Or playing a few low intensity club games. Problem is ... Kohli always ends up choosing his go to players if in the squad. Mosher 1 Link to comment
Sandeep99 Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 Bumrah will cream it in the sub continent. He will be unplayable in the 3rd and 4th innings of test matches. This guy is clearly the best we have ever produced. Respect. express bowling, Vk1 and The Dark Horse 3 Link to comment
Vk1 Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 1 hour ago, express bowling said: Agree to an extent. But I prefer a couple of T20s during the " resting period ". Or playing a few low intensity club games. Problem is ... Kohli always ends up choosing his go to players if in the squad. Actual problem seems to be that we still follow the old method of captain making the decisions while it's better to take the constant opinion of biomechanic experts like the Aussies do. Aussies infact totally rely on them. express bowling 1 Link to comment
kubrickian Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 6 hours ago, Nikola said: Test cricket is having most helpful conditions for bowlers these days and bumrah has played all matches in helpful conditions as well so idk why you say tailor made batting conditions. Bumrah will do well in all conditions though. In Australia, conditions were good for batting as they always are. Even in England, generally conditions are good for batting unless there is swing. So I wouldnt necessarily say conditions nowadays are most helpful for bowlers. In SA, seamers tend to get more help but its par for the course there. However, his strike rate, economy and average is incredible in ODIs and T20s as well. Link to comment
Vijy Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 I don't expect home pitches to be an issue. he played on some real dead tracks in ranjis and other FC matches and did very well even when he was a "baby" (in terms of experience, not age). express bowling 1 Link to comment
SUMO Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 He should play all test matches and important bilateral ODIs only that too when series is alive. No T20 stuff upto 2 months prior to WCT20. cowboysfan and express bowling 2 Link to comment
rtmohanlal Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 with spinners wreaking havoc on Indian pitches in general, it won't be a problem at all for Bumrah. Infact his final frontier is to keep himself injury free and fit for very important matches. He should only play very important and toughest series .Home series, low profile series, T20S etc etc do not require Bumrah. Link to comment
gakgupta Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 He shouldn't be over bowled ....He should not play all the formats consistently...On flat indian wickets, he shouldn't be played.Sent from my Nokia 6.1 using Tapatalk Link to comment
Tibarn Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 He will be fine at home. He has a great Ranji record, showing his ability in our conditions, and he has the pace for reverse swing. The good thing is our bowling attack is significantly better at home, even the pace bowling, that our success here won't be on him only. We could even rest him for matches, not that I am in favor of it. Mosher 1 Link to comment
Insidious Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 But should he be playing in home conditions? We already have Umesh and shami for home conditions. Ishant is also a contender for home tests as he don't play Lois. Link to comment
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